Brexit

We will also be forced to no doubt “bow down and worship the golden calf” that is Extinction Rebellion, along with their toxic Ven-symbol emblem…


These dangerous idiots think it is a great idea for us to go back to the proro-Human pre-historic era, where even FIRE is to be denied as as a “legal technology free for people to use”…

We’ll still be hostile towards each other of course, - but it will be rocks and shells being lobbed about, rather than higher technology such as fire, fury, or harsh language. :unamused: :unamused:

Following today’s “News” that Irish PM Varadkar feels it is “close to a deal with Boris” - leaves me highly suspicious of a stitch-up classic Irish backstab in the making…

Here’s why:

Eire pretends to be close to a deal with Boris.
At the last minute, for whatever reason “it didn’t happen after all”.

Parliament, meanwhile - have held an emergency saturday session where they put in place a contingency in the event of a deal not being reached by 31st October:
Since the Fixed Terms Parliaments Act has already prevented an election taking place, the only other options to be debated will be
(1) Total revocation of Article 50, thus cancelling Brexit on the spot
OR
(2) Installing a date for a second EU referendum, likely to be held in the spring of 2020, as these take quite a while to set up.

Neither of these options will be acceptable to either the Tory Government or the neutral Public, let alone the 17.4m Brexit voters - but it will be the incumbent Tory government that has to put up with, and ultimately put down any “Revolt” by Brexiteers, probably in clashes with an emboldened far-left Antifa - causing riots up and down the country. Corbyn’s Labour - now looks to have been very clever indeed - to have sidestepped ALL this “responsibility” by leaving the Election challange gauntlet - on the floor where it had been chucked by Boris Johnson, the Right, and the Voters of course, of which there must be plenty of Remainers that would have liked to have seen a general election at this point.

The only “Escape” from all this - would be that Boris Johnson has put a clause in the Queen’s Speech next week that suggests the very first thing for HM government to do - is move to ABOLISH the Fixed Terms Parliaments Act 2011 BEFORE October 31st - thus paving the way for a general election rather than a 2nd referendum - on the basis that a GE is by FAR more a popular option, whereas a 2nd referendum where “Remain” is on the ballot paper - but “No Deal” is NOT - will make it a total farce, and spark the largest uprising in this country since Wat Tyler, and will probably end up in a similar manner, with the possible abdication of the Queen in the process. Richard II who lied to Wat Tyler and his people to get them to “stand down” - only to round them all up, have the ringleaders executed, and then impose “Rustics you will REMAIN” upon them - ended up abdicating, incarcerated, and dying in a dungeon years later, unloved, unmissed - and probably perishing of starvation… Put there by a certain Henry Bollingbrooke, a lancastrian - who then went on to become the first King of England of that short, but glorious line of rulers - Henry IV, House of Lancaster.

Fingers Crossed - the Queen’s Speech - will have enough in it to thwart the backdoor plans by our traitor EU worshippers who wish to scupper Brexit at the very last minute…
The Taoiseach - is the EU’s creature after all. Why should we trust HIM over our own PM?? - even if you hate the Tories and hate Brexit - would that mean you’d rather collaborate with an enemy German-run foreign power like the IRA did - rather than support the very people living in your town, street, and country in any display of “Unity” with what your own neighbors might think or feel?
http://www.markhumphrys.com/sfira.nazis.html

Wow,you are one seriously illuminated dude Winseer.Humbling.

manalishi:
Wow,you are one seriously illuminated dude Winseer.Humbling.

Got some time on my hands tonight - no shift. :wink:

I have been watching the Pound’s sharp rally today - and figured that this barometer of “Brexit about to be cancelled” - speaks more about market expectations than the mere words of our deceptive politicians - on either side of the arguments…

(Chart shows the dropping number of £ you get to one Euro - 0.8848 is about 88 1/2p at the time of writing… The highest (weakest) the pound has been is around 94p, the lowest about 66p - over the past 42 months, mind…

I predict that if a successful Brexit is carried out - the Euro will totally collapse - NOT the pound, that’ll probably dip initially, before rallying.

The speculators think that a successful Brexit makes the pound weaker, whilst a blocked Brexit makes the Euro weaker…

I suspect it will end up being the “other way around” - as was the markets ahead, and during the referendum in 2016… :bulb:

Hedge Funds seem to be “Neutral” the pound at present, whilst Short the Euro.

This means if the Euro collapses following a successful brexit - the hedge funds will make a killing.
If “nothing happens” though? - NO one “wins” - except the middle-men.
The pound? - It can go where it wants. It is the Euro’s demise or recovery - Brexiteers/Remainers have been betting on for the past 3.5 years. :bulb:

Always been of the view that like statistics,economics is comparable to a bikini,what it reveals is suggestive,what it conceals is vital.I admire your grasp of this head melting science,even understand some of it.Fascinating link with ■■■■/I.R.A. by the way.
Wondering if you’re familiar with Lew Rockwells website?plenty good meat in there,disturbing economic news stateside,looks like the Rothies are at their games again.Dumping government bonds type of thing.

BBC HardTalk current episode is with Stuart Wheeler. Interesting stuff.
Daresay it’ll change no-one’s opinion of the situation, but who knows?

Franglais:
BBC HardTalk current episode is with Stuart Wheeler. Interesting stuff.
Daresay it’ll change no-one’s opinion of the situation, but who knows?

Reading a book on the BBC at prez.Very revealing insight into cultish mindsets.

Winseer:

manalishi:
Wow,you are one seriously illuminated dude Winseer.Humbling.

Got some time on my hands tonight - no shift. :wink:

EURGBP | Euro/British Pound Advanced Charts | MarketWatch
I have been watching the Pound’s sharp rally today - and figured that this barometer of “Brexit about to be cancelled” - speaks more about market expectations than the mere words of our deceptive politicians - on either side of the arguments…

(Chart shows the dropping number of £ you get to one Euro - 0.8848 is about 88 1/2p at the time of writing… The highest (weakest) the pound has been is around 94p, the lowest about 66p - over the past 42 months, mind…

I predict that if a successful Brexit is carried out - the Euro will totally collapse - NOT the pound, that’ll probably dip initially, before rallying.

The speculators think that a successful Brexit makes the pound weaker, whilst a blocked Brexit makes the Euro weaker…

I suspect it will end up being the “other way around” - as was the markets ahead, and during the referendum in 2016… :bulb:

Hedge Funds seem to be “Neutral” the pound at present, whilst Short the Euro.

This means if the Euro collapses following a successful brexit - the hedge funds will make a killing.
If “nothing happens” though? - NO one “wins” - except the middle-men.
The pound? - It can go where it wants. It is the Euro’s demise or recovery - Brexiteers/Remainers have been betting on for the past 3.5 years. :bulb:

This isn’t true.

manalishi:
Always been of the view that like statistics,economics is comparable to a bikini,what it reveals is suggestive,what it conceals is vital.I admire your grasp of this head melting science,even understand some of it.Fascinating link with ■■■■/I.R.A. by the way.
Wondering if you’re familiar with Lew Rockwells website?plenty good meat in there,disturbing economic news stateside,looks like the Rothies are at their games again.Dumping government bonds type of thing.

The Rothschilds - have been caught short this forever-rallying bond market already. They’ve lost billions betting against interest rates falling any further. They are, however, betting against the flood tide of Chinese money with “nothing better to do” around the world. Over-supply of “money available to be borrowed” permits China to buy bonds, crush bond yields, and price everyone else in the banking system (including the Rothies) OUT of the market, as the “Risks” associated with such a paltry interest rate of return - are just no longer worth it. That’s before “Black Swan” events get factored in as well, of course…

If Trump succeeds in his policies against the Globalists - then their downfall will ultimately favour the East, but not China or Japan - but rather INDIA I’m thinking. Who do you think is buying up most of the world’s gold - to actually “have and hold” rather than as a short-term speculative punt?

Darkside:

Winseer:

manalishi:
Wow,you are one seriously illuminated dude Winseer.Humbling.

Got some time on my hands tonight - no shift. :wink:

EURGBP | Euro/British Pound Advanced Charts | MarketWatch
I have been watching the Pound’s sharp rally today - and figured that this barometer of “Brexit about to be cancelled” - speaks more about market expectations than the mere words of our deceptive politicians - on either side of the arguments…

(Chart shows the dropping number of £ you get to one Euro - 0.8848 is about 88 1/2p at the time of writing… The highest (weakest) the pound has been is around 94p, the lowest about 66p - over the past 42 months, mind…

I predict that if a successful Brexit is carried out - the Euro will totally collapse - NOT the pound, that’ll probably dip initially, before rallying.

The speculators think that a successful Brexit makes the pound weaker, whilst a blocked Brexit makes the Euro weaker…

I suspect it will end up being the “other way around” - as was the markets ahead, and during the referendum in 2016… :bulb:

Hedge Funds seem to be “Neutral” the pound at present, whilst Short the Euro.

This means if the Euro collapses following a successful brexit - the hedge funds will make a killing.
If “nothing happens” though? - NO one “wins” - except the middle-men.
The pound? - It can go where it wants. It is the Euro’s demise or recovery - Brexiteers/Remainers have been betting on for the past 3.5 years. :bulb:

This isn’t true.

Depends upon which group of “hedge funds” or “wider speculators” that one happens to be looking at, of course.
Changes can be minute-to-minute during “fast market” periods.
https://www.fxstreet.com/rates-charts/trading-positions “General positions EURGBP are 50/50 at present”. That means “Neutral” for those not aware of my remark/interpretation above btw.

on the chart linked here, we see three coloured lines:

Small speculators that are currently getting killed by the sharply-dropping EURGBP cross rate (stronger pound, weaker Euro)
Neutral specuators that may be long or short of other currencies - but are net neutral on anything involving the pound.
Large speculators (Hedge Funds) that are aggressively short this market, and stand to make a killing out of the Euro dropping against the Pound - which is is currently in it’s second day of sharp falls - they are cleaning up at present.

I’ll say again: People like Rees-Mogg are short the Euro and neutral the pound. This means they line up as the “Reds” currently making a few quid in this market.
The overall balance is 50/50 with the big boys taking money hand-over-first from the small speculators, thinking that sooner or later Brexit will happen, rather than we become a parlimentary opposition-ruled dicatorship without a civil war to puncuate that out a bit. Gold? - Bounces this way and that, not quite knowing what’s going to happen next… The Indians are major buyers of physical gold, meanwhile - so the upside trend is intact.
Oil? - Despite some “Oil Scares” recently - the price just cannot rally - and HOLD that rally. It goes up, only to get smashed straight back down again. Saudi Arabia are probably the ones selling into these upswings in the market, and are (I suggest) flogging oil like it’s soon to go out of fashion…

dozy:
You - gov saying all polls are showing
Majority want to remain , no need
For peoples vote , we should just revoke

dozy by name dozy by nature

Its all over now, Done Deal

Wheel Nut:
Its all over now, Done Deal

Well, Johnson has a deal agreed with the EU.
A while back Mrs May had a (somewhat similar) deal agreed with the EU.
.
And remember this is just the Withdrawal Agreement. It will be the foundation for future deals, and is important, but not to worry, “we hold all the cards”, this is just part of the “easiest trade negotiations ever”.

Wheel Nut:
Its all over now, Done Deal

ummmm nope…

Franglais:

Wheel Nut:
Its all over now, Done Deal

Well, Johnson has a deal agreed with the EU.
A while back Mrs May had a (somewhat similar) deal agreed with the EU.
.
And remember this is just the Withdrawal Agreement. It will be the foundation for future deals, and is important, but not to worry, “we hold all the cards”, this is just part of the “easiest trade negotiations ever”.

you forgot the German car industry who will shortly be here…

Initial findings are where the May deal left us £1500 per person worse off, this is up near £2k each

It’s not over until midnight on the 31st October.

BRINO will see the tories utterly wiped out at the next election, we aint bothered one iota about the threat of Corbyn and his miserable marxists, nor bothered about the un-liberal un-democrats, because once Lisbon kicks in there really is no point in any of the parliaments existing, might as well convert them into affordable flats and let the incumbents go and get a proper job…though many of them will swan off to the EU for their thirty pieces of silver rewards.

If the tories are prepared to risk the repercussions of the final and ultimate betrayal of the referendum leave result, well don’t say we didn’t warn you what would happen.

Juddian:
It’s not over until midnight on the 31st October.

BRINO will see the tories utterly wiped out at the next election, we aint bothered one iota about the threat of Corbyn and his miserable marxists, nor bothered about the un-liberal un-democrats, because once Lisbon kicks in there really is no point in any of the parliaments existing, might as well convert them into affordable flats and let the incumbents go and get a proper job…though many of them will swan off to the EU for their thirty pieces of silver rewards.

If the tories are prepared to risk the repercussions of the final and ultimate betrayal of the referendum leave result, well don’t say we didn’t warn you what would happen.

And I thought all the myths about the Lisbon Treaty were well known.

Ha ha ha after 3 yrs the best deal the brexit bright
Sparks can come up with is worse than the deal
We already had
How ZB embarrassed must those 17m be ,
Art 50 should be revoked now

dozy:
Ha ha ha after 3 yrs the best deal the brexit bright
Sparks can come up with is worse than the deal
We already had
How ZB embarrassed must those 17m be ,
Art 50 should be revoked now

Y would we be embarrassed?

malcolmgbell:

dozy:
Ha ha ha after 3 yrs the best deal the brexit bright
Sparks can come up with is worse than the deal
We already had
How ZB embarrassed must those 17m be ,
Art 50 should be revoked now

Y would we be embarrassed?

Embarrassed that morons like this are allowed to vote.

So Boris has attempted to shaft us in name only.
Looks like DUP will scupper it so prepare for further endless delays and the inevitable 2nd referendum.