FAILED FAILED FAILED. 
A near perfect drive. only 4 minors ( 1 reverse shunt and two mirrors 1 signal timing ) got back and done the un-coupling ok then re-couple. I released the trailer brake last ok but then must have put it back on cos the lorry didnt move FAILURE 
felt like examiner could have hinted in some way like asking are you sure you want me to check the lights or are you sure about the brake. . gonna cost me ÂŁ300 now for retest . Emerald are tryin to get a test next thurs or fri for me, if not then it will be july 2nd. wont happen again i can assure you of that what a 42 carat plonker i really am. thats what nerves do to ya.
NEXT TIME = 
briandavies158:
âŚthen re-couple.I released the trailer brake last ok but then must have put it back on cos the lorry didnt move FAILURE
On every test re-couple Iâve seen my trainees do, the truck has not moved afterwards 
Re-couple - check lights - finish
How did the examiner know that it would not move 
And if it was needed to move after the re-couple and did not, then why didnât the examiner ask - âwhy wonât it move?â leaving you to rectify a problem which by any means is not a serious IMO.
Unless to tried to power it with the trailer brake onâŚ
This has me totally bewilderedâŚ
This has me totally bewilderedâŚ
Me as well. The only time this would normally crop up is on the occasions when the coupling/uncoupling is done before the practical drive. But that doesnât seem to be what happened this time. Strange
I released the trailer brake last ok but then must have put it back on cos the lorry didnt move
Sat here having a wittle about this scenario - I always like nice convenient solution! Maybe the air dropped in the uncoupling process, and with the engine not running too much during that time, it wouldnât build up again. Just a thought.
Really must get out more!! 
Peter Smythe:
This has me totally bewilderedâŚ
Me as well. The only time this would normally crop up is on the occasions when the coupling/uncoupling is done before the practical drive. But that doesnât seem to be what happened this time. Strange
Yeah, on mine i did the uncouple/recouple, and didnt have to move the truck at all until i left the test centre after the test
Peter Smythe:
I released the trailer brake last ok but then must have put it back on cos the lorry didnt move
Sat here having a wittle about this scenario - I always like nice convenient solution! Maybe the air dropped in the uncoupling process, and with the engine not running too much during that time, it wouldnât build up again. Just a thought.
Really must get out more!!
Red Airline wasnât connected properly maybeâ â ?
Sorry to hear this buddy. Its got me baffled tooâŚWhat did the examiner actually tell you in the de-brief afterwards?
ok the re-couple done everything ok exept take the trailer brake off. the examiner wants you to move foreward a little to check the brake lights and ensure you have released the trailer brake. thats how he knows. i didnt the trailer wouldnt move and i failed. â â â and yes you are right it is not a dangerous item but unfortunatly it is a procedral thing
briandavies158:
ok the re-couple done everything ok exept take the trailer brake off. the examiner wants you to move foreward a little to check the brake lights and ensure you have released the trailer brake. thats how he knows. i didnt the trailer wouldnt move and i failed. â â â
Must be an odd thing specific to that examiner as Iâve never seen or known that done for a CE test.
Still is a very pedantic thing to fail someone for IMO as I cannot see any unsafe issues.
briandavies158:
ok the re-couple done everything ok exept take the trailer brake off. the examiner wants you to move foreward a little to check the brake lights and ensure you have released the trailer brake. thats how he knows. i didnt the trailer wouldnt move and i failed. â â â
On mine I did the recouple, then asked the examiner to check the brakes and the lights, at no stage did the truck have to move!!!
Must be an odd thing specific to that examiner
They shouldnât make up their own rules. Jobâs tough enough as it is.
Still is a very pedantic thing to fail someone for IMO as I cannot see any unsafe issues.
Perhaps not unsafe - but a real nuisance if you canât sort it out!!
Peter Smythe:
but a real nuisance if you canât sort it out!!
True - but was he asked to sort it - that would be the reasonable thing for an examiner to do.
If, after being asked, he did not know then that IMO would be a fail for lack of knowledge
thats what i said as leaving the trailer brake on only inconvieniances the driver cos heâs got to get out and release it. not a dangerous thing. but enough â â â â â â â â , ill pass next time and boy will i SHOW the examiner the brake, i will SHOUT that i have released the brake and if i could i would FILM me doin it.
Iâve had trainees who have not taken the trailer park brake off and the examiner has asked them if they would do anything else - there reply ahould be âto drive a few yards and test the brakesâ. If the examiners says âwell go on thenâ, you know something is wrong,usually that the trailer park brake is on. Providing the trainee realises and then puts it off before moving to test the brakes, all is well, if not its a fail!
Smart Mart:
Iâve had trainees who have not taken the trailer park brake off and the examiner has asked them if they would do anything else - there reply ahould be âto drive a few yards and test the brakesâ. If the examiners says âwell go on thenâ, you know something is wrong,usually that the trailer park brake is on. Providing the trainee realises and then puts it off before moving to test the brakes, all is well, if not its a fail!
I never had a trainee asked to do a brake test after re-coupling or asked what they would do next after the lights were checked - is this something new or just unique to a particular test station
like smart mart said you would expect the examiner to be a little fair and gently remind you. I think i was just another stat he had to fail so many this week well i know i can pass and come test day hopefully thurs or fri i will. if not thurs or fri then it is defo 2nd july 14:30 wrexham again. 
A puzzler that one, its only the driver being inconvienced if the trailer brake is left on.
Only a question but was that the fail reason or is it lost in translation? Its certainly not a reason to fail a test.
If lost in translation then maybe, I have heard many pearls on why I failed someone, all blantantly way off the real reason.
the reason for fail was given as you did not release the trailer park brake . the unit would not move foreward this confirms you did not release the trailer park brake.
gpc273:
Only a question but was that the fail reason or is it lost in translation? Its certainly not a reason to fail a test.
I had the senior training manager from the largest training school in Peterborough fail his test for not releasing the trailer park brake - that was his only serious. So what you are saying is that the examiner should not have failed him, but he certainly did!
Smart Mart:
gpc273:
Only a question but was that the fail reason or is it lost in translation? Its certainly not a reason to fail a test.I had the senior training manager from the largest training school in Peterborough fail his test for not releasing the trailer park brake - that was his only serious. So what you are saying is that the examiner should not have failed him, but he certainly did!
mine too that makes me feel better. least i now know i wasânt shafted as such