the maoster:
Absolutely. Some are even so thick that they have no concept of punctuation.
Spelling isn’t their good point either, I wonder if they have any talent at all.
You see its all about worth, time. and reward
If i do a job and that job pays well for normal hours then thats worth it, if i have to do extra hours its worth it but only every now and then why because it’s also about time and if someone puts in big time without pay then what would you call that person well i will leave you to answer that don’t forget about the 20 quid
Reward is for doing more than what’s required and i don’t think 20 quid covers that
I would also have more respect for a person doing it to pay the bills and feed the family he saves it for that
But the guys who dont need to do that WHY would anyone put them hours in for the sake of 20 quid
1 they can’t have a drink at home
2 they cant cope with commitment
3 they are loners
4 its the only pocket money they get
5 they dont like who they live with
6 they can’t mix with family or friends or people
7 they like there own company all the time
the maoster:
Absolutely. Some are even so thick that they have no concept of punctuation.
+1
somehow i dont think it will go well for this zoomer in here though you might as well start as you mean to go on and get spectaculary shot down in flames.
i wonder if he speaks as he types,cos if so,then he must be able to breath through his ears.
bit obvious for a blatant troll though,so im guessing billy big balls home from school. 
Noeleen:
I would also have more respect for a person doing it to pay the bills and feed the family he saves it for that
But the guys who dont need to do that WHY would anyone put them hours in for the sake of 20 quid
1 they can’t have a drink at home
2 they cant cope with commitment
3 they are loners
4 its the only pocket money they get
5 they dont like who they live with
6 they can’t mix with family or friends or people
7 they like there own company all the time
Sorry but how many driver can drink at at home if he work about 12h plus travel time to and from work??How may time driver csn go to shopping after work if he work from 9am to 8pm???Most day drivers simply go to work,back from work ,sleep and same will be next day.
when I wast last on days I’d get all my jobs done , cutting grass , laying tiles , cleaning car etc in the week so the weekends were mine to do what I wanted , other than going to the football I now spend all weekend doing the stuff I haven’t been able to do in the week as away tramping .
Noeleen:
I would also have more respect for a person doing it to pay the bills and feed the family he saves it for that
But the guys who dont need to do that WHY would anyone put them hours in for the sake of 20 quid
1 they can’t have a drink at home
2 they cant cope with commitment
3 they are loners
4 its the only pocket money they get
5 they dont like who they live with
6 they can’t mix with family or friends or people
7 they like there own company all the time
1 correct , and I love my cider
2 I’ve been married for 30 yrs
3 I’ve loads of mates & always belling each other up
4 yes it is pocket money
5 i wouldn’t be so desperate to get home on a Friday if I didn’t miss my Mrs , but your point is valid as 99% of drivers would rather stay out on a Friday night than go home
6 no , I mix fine with everyone
7 no , I love spending any time I can with Mrs / my girl & that boyfriend of hers
Noeleen:
I would also have more respect for a person doing it to pay the bills and feed the family he saves it for that
But the guys who dont need to do that WHY would anyone put them hours in for the sake of 20 quid
1 they can’t have a drink at home
2 they cant cope with commitment
3 they are loners
4 its the only pocket money they get
5 they dont like who they live with
6 they can’t mix with family or friends or people
7 they like there own company all the time
I’ll answer as dozy has done 
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so, what’s great about drinking at home? When I was younger I never drank at home, only when I went out. Now I often have a glass of wine, but I could do that if I was still tramping.
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Admittedly I was tramping when I was single, but I sustained a relationship for 28 years, that’s commitment.
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I’m very sociable, I’m also happy in my own company. It’s an example of balance.
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I was living with my mum and we got on just fine. Lots of single people though, as I now am, does it make any difference if you are single at home, or single in a cab?
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Not only can I mix, I’m known for it, ability in getting on with people is vital in running a business.
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As before, I can do both and if you like your own company, it’s indicative of a resilient mind.
albion:
5. I was living with my mum and we got on just fine. Lots of single people though, as I now am, does it make any difference if you are single at home, or single in a cab?
One of the biggest problems for this industry is that morons with little to no intellect or common sense in this particular industry are easily able to call themselves businessman and manager. Where as in majority of other types of business they would be complete failures.
Your answers demonstrate this very obviously.
Yes, it does - if you live in a cab you have very limited options to become “not single”.
If you are home from normal work at 5pm you go and socialize etc.
If you live in a cab you don’t have such option.
If you work 15h shifts you don’t have this option either.
You can claim yourself the best of the fools, but you will still be a fool and your posts prove this very well… keep typing…
kyk:
If you live in a cab you don’t have such option.
Why not?
And if we’re going to stereotype.
People who finish at 5…don’t go out and socialize.
They have their tea,and then watch mind sapping tedium on telly.
Sure…this time of year,you’ll see folks making a bit of an effort…but mainly it’s just telly.
They can only go out once a month(payday)anyway…coz it’s the only time they have any CASH before the banks whip it all away via direct debit(how convenient)for all the crap they’ve bought on credit.
kyk:
albion:
5. I was living with my mum and we got on just fine. Lots of single people though, as I now am, does it make any difference if you are single at home, or single in a cab?One of the biggest problems for this industry is that morons with little to no intellect or common sense in this particular industry are easily able to call themselves businessman and manager. Where as in majority of other types of business they would be complete failures.
Your answers demonstrate this very obviously.
Yes, it does - if you live in a cab you have very limited options to become “not single”.
I’ve known Trampers who have managed to get into relationships, of all my friends I know only one or 2 who have met their partner on a night out.
If you are home from normal work at 5pm you go and socialize etc.
In theory, but the reality is most don’t, unless you’re young and living with parents, it’s unlikely you’d go out during the week except for a special occasion, hence the reason so many local pubs close down each week.
If you live in a cab you don’t have such option.
You do, I’ve known trampers who’ve gone out either to the pub, football matches even one who spent his time train spotting
If you work 15h shifts you don’t have this option either.
Agreed, I’d say even a 10 hour shift doesn’t leave a lot of time for a decent night out, especially if you have a bit of commute on top of that.
The thing that gets me most about this Tramper versus Day driver things is what business is it of anybody else how you choose to live your life and why somebody should feel superior because they pick a different way of doing the job?
It’s the same as the trampers who believe that they are more of a truck driver than a day driver because they stay away, I’ve known day drivers whose job was far more challenging and required far more skill than many trampers.
kyk:
albion:
5. I was living with my mum and we got on just fine. Lots of single people though, as I now am, does it make any difference if you are single at home, or single in a cab?One of the biggest problems for this industry is that morons with little to no intellect or common sense in this particular industry are easily able to call themselves businessman and manager. Where as in majority of other types of business they would be complete failures.
Your answers demonstrate this very obviously.
Yes, it does - if you live in a cab you have very limited options to become “not single”.
If you are home from normal work at 5pm you go and socialize etc.
If you live in a cab you don’t have such option.
If you work 15h shifts you don’t have this option either.You can claim yourself the best of the fools, but you will still be a fool and your posts prove this very well… keep typing…
I don’t think it’s my posts that prove any foolishness, yours on the other hand…
You really do have a problem with me, don’t you? No intellect? My IQ is 143. Common sense, no measurement, but trust me, wouldn’t have got where I am without quite a lot of it. As I said, business failures in the haulage sector are one of the highest. Must be doing something right - I can only presume that jealousy of success is a factor in your new hobby or being rude to me. But do feel free to carry on, it’s you looking like the idiot,not me.
Modern technology means that you can meet people pretty much anywhere if you want. Mr A’s first wife he met when they were both tramping. I chat with a chap on here who met his wife when he gave her a lift. Besides you don’t have to be a tramper all the time, do it for a few years if you like it and then start settling down. I enjoyed my time pootling round Europe, I saw things that I wouldn’t have seen otherwise, met interesting people, went to some pretty places, Southern Germany remains a favourite, learned to stand on my own feet more than if I did a 9-5 job. It was good at the time, but I’m not a tree, things changed and went and did other stuff.
The figures quoted by OP are higher than the average in the North East (I know he is in the North West). Reading some of the responses giving figures from other areas of the country I think perhaps I should move home to somewhere where I can get more money. I don’t get over £550 for 60 hours and 4 nights away, but that seems to be normal for Teesside.
Andrew23:
The figures quoted by OP are higher than the average in the North East (I know he is in the North West). Reading some of the responses giving figures from other areas of the country I think perhaps I should move home to somewhere where I can get more money. I don’t get over £550 for 60 hours and 4 nights away, but that seems to be normal for Teesside.
Just be careful that moving to gain an extra £50 a week in wages doesn’t put £100 a week on your living costs.
Just be careful that moving to gain an extra £50 a week in wages doesn’t put £100 a week on your living costs.
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I won’t be moving, but have thought about it in the past. You do have to balance the cost of living in an area with the wage you earn. Teesside isn’t a top paying area, I believe that most of the region pays less than many other areas yet there are plenty of haulage firms and plenty of drivers.
As others have said, things are unlikely to improve until drivers stick together to demand better pay and conditions, but I am afraid I don’t think that will happen.
albion:
You really do have a problem with me, don’t you? No intellect? My IQ is 143. Common sense, no measurement, but trust me, wouldn’t have got where I am without quite a lot of it. As I said, business failures in the haulage sector are one of the highest.
A person who thinks that IQ test determines how smart creature is…
A person who limits term “socializing” to alcohol consumption…
I have to bring your attention to the fact that the only other driver who on Abbeys discussion said what they ask was beaver, who is not from your generation, but mine and who goes for a run on his 45…
There is very big gap between the old and the new… in this industry…
You old fat dumb haulage members drivers together with bosses go to pub…
Some new tipper drivers finish at 4pm and go play football or ride dirt bikes or to restaurant with their wifes…
IQ… Pub… 
Majority of old fat dumb drivers who only know pub are at the same IQ level of Romanians - Ukrainians who spend weekends crawling around Autohofs…
Now you are making stuff up.
Perhaps it’s a trend to have a stalker, every time AndrewG posts up pops milodon with indecipherable twaddle. You seem to do the same for me. I’m going to take a leaf out of Andrew’s book and just ignore you.
jbaz73:
The reality of the h&s ■■■■■■■■ is that most places do not allow you to stay in your cab. A few still do, but take your keys, so invest in a couple of power packs. You will most likely be in a cell though. As for how much a box jockey earns? How long is a piece of string? It varies not only from area to area, but in fact one place can pay 26k, next door 32k. You pick your box and take pot luck.
= spare/dummy keys
kyk:
albion:
You really do have a problem with me, don’t you? No intellect? My IQ is 143. Common sense, no measurement, but trust me, wouldn’t have got where I am without quite a lot of it. As I said, business failures in the haulage sector are one of the highest.A person who thinks that IQ test determines how smart creature is…
A person who limits term “socializing” to alcohol consumption…I have to bring your attention to the fact that the only other driver who on Abbeys discussion said what they ask was beaver, who is not from your generation, but mine and who goes for a run on his 45…
There is very big gap between the old and the new… in this industry…
You old fat dumb haulage members drivers together with bosses go to pub…
Some new tipper drivers finish at 4pm and go play football or ride dirt bikes or to restaurant with their wifes…IQ… Pub…
Majority of old fat dumb drivers who only know pub are at the same IQ level of Romanians - Ukrainians who spend weekends crawling around Autohofs…
You have such a way with words kyk, however, despite your overwhelming charm, I’m going to refer you to the rules of posting on this forum, namely personal attacks. We don’t tolerate them.
Also I’d like to bring to your attention the difference in time it takes you to post a reply and the time it takes one of the moderators to hit the delete post button, it’s quite significant, we don’t even have to read the whole post, so by all means continue, the only time you’re wasting is your own.
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