Are you cpc (35 hours) qualified yet?

40+ LGV drivers at our place, we have quite a high turnover.

One has completed their DCPC. Me!

Nothing seems to be in place for the others.

I sorted mine myself, 14 for doing both my C and C+E, then did another day, just to get it out of the way.

Can’t really see how the TM is going to deal with it.

Completed mine in July. In my humble opinion it’s a waste of time. The DCPC is designed to improve safety in the road haulage industry & as a manager I ask myself, how can I influence someones driving habits who may have been driving 20-40 years ? .

It’s a money making racket scheme dreamed up by european beaurocrats. I can well understand some of the replies to this thread particularly those nearing the end of their working lives.

Still, the law is the law which we must abide by.

About half of ours have done either 28 or 35 hours.

The remainder it varies with 4 still to do any hours, but there is a classroom booked for the first week of Jan, by the end of which everyone will have 28 hours and about 90% will have 35.

My BiL at 66 is walking away from the job. Two of us in the office still go out a bit, but neither of us are doing the DCPC. I drive maybe two hours a month, it’s just not worth it to do the 35 hours.

Yes I’ve done mine in house with my employer.
Mind you,I’ll be turned 71 when it comes into force!(That is assuming I pass my next medical!)

Just done module one of five this week what a load of bolx. Crirical management or something it was , nothing to do with trucks. At one stage was asked to trade apples and oranges with other room split in two groups ABSOLUTE FARCE needless to say I spent all day on my iPad

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Why oh why do they do stuff like this. Let’s be honest about it, and please dont take this the wrong way, but truck drivers are never going to make brain surgeons so why spout all this ■■■■■■■■ and faf around with apples and oranges is totally beyond me…

kr79:

Winseer:
Are there not some who’ve completed their 5th module before September this year, and will then find themselves owing 7 hours when the 2008 module rolls off September next year? :confused:

Full timers I know have been doing one single 7 hour module for the last 5 years, so doing it like that, I’m thinking you have to do another new one each and every year?

No 35 hours training before the cut off date lasts until 2019 if you did 35 hours training the week after it comes in in 2014 that would see you through yo 2024.

Wishfull thinking, :laughing:

Euro:
don’t worry about it. If there is a shortage, the government will either suspend/scrap/ modify the requirement or make it free or start a tennez la droit system to make the eastern labour market accessible. Self drive cars available 2016, wagons 2020

On the very off chance that they do decide to scrap it due to a driver shortage, there would be an uproar from the drivers who have spent their own time and money on getting qualified. I’d certainly be demanding my money back plus compensation for my own time given up to attend said courses.

I was told today that we have to pay back the cost of any DCPC courses if we leave within
a year. I’ve not signed anything to agree to this (still no contract) but been told it gets taken out of your last weeks wages. Would attending a course be as good as agreeing to it? I have two to go and if this happens I’ll sort my own courses instead (something slightly worthwhile).

Did my last 7 hours last week

7 hours on drivers hours & regulations
21 hours for ADR
7 hours on H&S in the workplace

I am now a true professional and have a piece of plastic to prove it :wink:

have just done my fourth one. I don’t think the driver cpc is going to go away its here to stay.

I got qualified in Feb 2010. :grimacing:

damoq:

Euro:
don’t worry about it. If there is a shortage, the government will either suspend/scrap/ modify the requirement or make it free or start a tennez la droit system to make the eastern labour market accessible. Self drive cars available 2016, wagons 2020

On the very off chance that they do decide to scrap it due to a driver shortage, there would be an uproar from the drivers who have spent their own time and money on getting qualified. I’d certainly be demanding my money back plus compensation for my own time given up to attend said courses.

Can’t see it getting scrapped or even extended!!! No such extension for PCV drivers, whose dead-line was this September 2013. Large firms who have planned/programmed it over five years for their drivers to get to 35 hours wouldn’t be best pleased if it was to be extended, even by 6 months IMO. It’s here to stay…done my 35 hours by Aug 2012.

A good point well made was a food factory/sandwich factory driver on one DCPC module who said prior to DCPC, LGV drivers on their site were the only employees who didn’t do any refresher training whatsoever. i.e. FLT drivers are re-tested every 3 years, even the labourers who butter the bread (other spreads are available) must do Food Hygiene course every 6 months. So at least LGV drivers are now getting some form of refresher training, even if it’s been forced upon them - isn’t this the case for all forms of work-based training i.e. electricians/plumbers/CSCS…etc. etc. Maybe we should just accept it?? Other professions seem to have done just that■■?

Accept it yes I suppose butTRADING APPLES AND ORANGES PLEASE WTF HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH IT plus I paying for this crap. Told the instructor today I would not be participating as it was absolute tosh still got my 7 hours

Yep got mine, expires November 2020 for both truck and bus, will do 7
hours from 2015 onwards, so I can sit back for a while :smiley:

kr79:

Winseer:
Are there not some who’ve completed their 5th module before September this year, and will then find themselves owing 7 hours when the 2008 module rolls off September next year? :confused:

Full timers I know have been doing one single 7 hour module for the last 5 years, so doing it like that, I’m thinking you have to do another new one each and every year?

No 35 hours training before the cut off date lasts until 2019 if you did 35 hours training the week after it comes in in 2014 that would see you through yo 2024.

So, if I really wanted to get my moneysworth, I’d hang the last module out until mid september 2014, and then be done for 10 years?

What occurs to me about all this is that Full time employers are putting their drivers through modules as required, albeit on a minimist footing, eg. firm won’t put you through ADR tanks, but might dp the el cheapo module of teaching you how to alight from a vehicle… So all the bods like me who have not done anything at all therefore MUST be agency, or not actually working as a pro driver at all right now!? :confused:

Thus, we re-interpret the rules as being “Let’s scrap all agency drivers as of september 2014, or at least discourage them from continuing beyond this point”… The reason I have done zero hours is because I’ve gotta pay for it all, and right now, and for the foreseeable future, I’m not made of money, and can’t afford to take the time off on zero pay to do it, let alone pay for the course as well. :angry:

Full timers therefore can expect to get lots of unpaid overtime thereafter, seeing as their over-shifts cannot be put out to tender, just as they think themselves that they’ve discovered the holy grail of the salaried workforce… :unamused:

markoc:
Done all mine in August.

Self funded and a week off work I didn’t get paid for and I must say a complete waste of time!

looking like I’am going to have to do the same, who did you do yours with? Pm it to me if you don’t want to broadcast it on here

Not done any yet but I work for the tightest git ever, the kind of guy who bought the office women a company fleece each so he could turn the heating down last winter.

From what I’ve heard he’s prepared to pay for the course or the 35 hours but not both… I’m not paying for either so we have a problem :smiley:

35 HOURS. DONE IM QUALIFIED. :laughing: :angry: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :frowning: :astonished:

Apparently our Saturday courses cost about £120 pp and if we leave within 12 months of doing them, it’s deducted from final wages. Can you get cheaper courses at weekends than this? If so I’m considering funding my own incase I do leave and find myself with only a few quid in my last payslip.
Note I’m not fussed regarding quality, something where I don’t have to do/listen to other peoples’ introductions and where I can doze at the back and not join in group discussions etc (I have a cb for that).
For £10 in the instructors’ back pocket I’ll happily have my attendance noted, paperwork filled in and bid them a good day. :wink: