Half the drivers I work with don’t even acknowledge you on the road when you flash them so it would be easier to plait custard than to get them to stand together on something like this!
mshenderson:
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So who IS organising this? This is the first I’ve heard of it.
Captain Caveman 76:
mshenderson:
Whoever is organising it would of contacted people, it’s not beyond our own power to send emails to the press
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSo who IS organising this? This is the first I’ve heard of it.
From what I hear, they are also hosting a tupperware party on Wednesday! 
I personally don’t think this approach will work, as has been said drivers have a terrible reputation for sticking together and even if it actually happens, if you think one day of protest the operators will suddenly give to £45,000 for a 35 hour week then you’re dreaming.
It would take a long drawn out strike and how many drivers can afford to take weeks or months off work unpaid?
Also why should you punish those companies that actually do treat their drivers fairly, according to the poll on here of how much you’re paid, 18% of drivers (or at least those that responded) earn over £15ph.
Maybe you should start by targeting those companies known for poor wages and conditions, make it difficult from them to operate and let the good operators keep working.
muckles:
Maybe you should start by targeting those companies known for poor wages and conditions, make it difficult from them to operate and let the good operators keep working.
You can’t possibly mean tackle the scourge that the government is happy to sponsor as an acceptable overhead? 
Limpers?
muckles:
I personally don’t think this approach will work, as has been said drivers have a terrible reputation for sticking together and even if it actually happens, if you think one day of protest the operators will suddenly give to £45,000 for a 35 hour week then you’re dreaming.
It would take a long drawn out strike and how many drivers can afford to take weeks or months off work unpaid?Also why should you punish those companies that actually do treat their drivers fairly, according to the poll on here of how much you’re paid, 18% of drivers (or at least those that responded) earn over £15ph.
Maybe you should start by targeting those companies known for poor wages and conditions, make it difficult from them to operate and let the good operators keep working.
Too many poor paying companies.
Any idea who’s behind this. Not seen or heard anything else about it
dozy:
I’d be happy too have a week off in support of this action , I’ll have a word with the traffic commissioner and see if theyl coincide my 4/8 week lisense suspension with this action .
Knowing how they work over there they’ll more likely add a couple more weeks even for the suggestion
I bet it’s unlikely to happen, so many drivers have a negative attitude things will never happen for them
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Unlikely due to:
Ridiculous demands.
Truckers love to moan when in reality they are quite content or stuck in a rut.
Anyone with a passion for trucking doesn’t do it just for the money.
We couldn’t stick together if our lives depended on it.
Larger channels know nothing of this, it’s just an idea on a whim.
A big event needs to occur to trigger a mass protest like say driver facing cameras being compulsory, a ban on tea drinking in trucks etc.
No one likes to be told what to do or when to do it, which ironically is part of our job.
The country’s in a sticky time at the moment, now is not the time to make things worse.
Folks will notice how all truckers having a one day strike doesn’t make much difference apart from quieter roads so every month we will be forced to have one day off…
Ponsing about saying how much money your on doesn’t help.
I love Theresa May…
It’s a ridiculous idea, who the hell has come up with it, what exactly is the day of action supposed to achieve, who is it going to affect, are there going to be car loads of flying pickets.
More to the point, due to illegal industrial action when the company you usually work for present you with an invoice for replacement driver @ £200 plus admin, or several £hundred for a cancelled load and lost vehicle gross earnings, or even sue for several £hundred thousand for a lost customer, plus compensaton (boot on the the other foot) is Mr Anonymous who dreamed this ■■■■■■■■ up going to foot the bill? who exactly is going to be named as joint defendant at the county court?
You can’t go on a days strike because loads of drivers wanted a big shiny 65 plate lorry and a ■■■■ easy job sat on their arse attending a steering wheel, unfortunately many such jobs pay rubbish, there are other jobs out there, might involve a bit of graft and the lorry might not impress small boys, but pay a hell of a lot more.
Since around the 70’s when the foreign motors started arriving in volume there has always been a certain level of all flash no cash operations about, you makes your choice, if you are prepared to accept poor pay to get behind the wheel of a new upmarket motor, so be it, thats your choice no one else’s, there have always been other jobs out there that paid well but involved either muck or graft or where the motors weren’t being paid for out of wages the driver’s weren’t getting 
Apprentices don’t get paid as well as skilled workers, that’s never happened, and unfortunately a week’s course doth not a skilled lorry driver make, so newbies in any job will have to earn their spurs before they can claim the better deal for themselves.
How you go about changing the system is to stave the poor payers of good people, when they can only get newbies who invariably will drop a bollock or two whilst learning and we all did, or permanent idiots who wreck everything they drive they’ll have to change the way they pay and treat their staff, to attract the better drivers.
Or you get yourselves unionised and start to change where you work now, and if you really want to take industrial action you go about it the correct way, so you don’t put yourself at risk of the sack (if you’re lucky) or being taken to the cleaners in court.
As for taking sickies on the day, well good luck when you apply for that proper job paying between £15 and £25 an hour averaged out across the month by dividing gross top line by hours actually worked not including ex’s or NO pay (i know blokes genuinely earning this, reckon they’ll be out?), companies paying top dollar want to know all about your work record, sickies accidents etc, if you don’t check out or someone they trust doesn’t vouch for you, you don’t get the job, simple as.
Jobs paying money like that check you out, do you honestly think they would give you second glance when it comes to light you failed to show up on an unofficial action day which no one appears to be responsible for, they assume you were a trouble maker.
Just be careful not to shoot yourselves in the foot, if you have something to fight for fair enough, but look at your own situation candidly; did you willingly pass over a £12 an hour grafting job to get a £8.50 an hour job cos it was easy or you got a new motor or you thought the take home looked decent when 65 hours plus nights out was totaled up?
Juddian:
It’s a ridiculous idea, who the hell has come up with it, what exactly is the day of action supposed to achieve, who is it going to affect, are there going to be car loads of flying pickets.More to the point, due to illegal industrial action when the company you usually work for present you with an invoice for replacement driver @ £200 plus admin, or several £hundred for a cancelled load and lost vehicle gross earnings, or even sue for several £hundred thousand for a lost customer, plus compensaton (boot on the the other foot) is Mr Anonymous who dreamed this ■■■■■■■■ up going to foot the bill? who exactly is going to be named as joint defendant at the county court?
You can’t go on a days strike because loads of drivers wanted a big shiny 65 plate lorry and a ■■■■ easy job sat on their arse attending a steering wheel, unfortunately many such jobs pay rubbish, there are other jobs out there, might involve a bit of graft and the lorry might not impress small boys, but pay a hell of a lot more.
Since around the 70’s when the foreign motors started arriving in volume there has always been a certain level of all flash no cash operations about, you makes your choice, if you are prepared to accept poor pay to get behind the wheel of a new upmarket motor, so be it, thats your choice no one else’s, there have always been other jobs out there that paid well but involved either muck or graft or where the motors weren’t being paid for out of wages the driver’s weren’t getting
Apprentices don’t get paid as well as skilled workers, that’s never happened, and unfortunately a week’s course doth not a skilled lorry driver make, so newbies in any job will have to earn their spurs before they can claim the better deal for themselves.
How you go about changing the system is to stave the poor payers of good people, when they can only get newbies who invariably will drop a bollock or two whilst learning and we all did, or permanent idiots who wreck everything they drive they’ll have to change the way they pay and treat their staff, to attract the better drivers.
Or you get yourselves unionised and start to change where you work now, and if you really want to take industrial action you go about it the correct way, so you don’t put yourself at risk of the sack (if you’re lucky) or being taken to the cleaners in court.As for taking sickies on the day, well good luck when you apply for that proper job paying between £15 and £25 an hour averaged out across the month by dividing gross top line by hours actually worked not including ex’s or NO pay (i know blokes genuinely earning this, reckon they’ll be out?), companies paying top dollar want to know all about your work record, sickies accidents etc, if you don’t check out or someone they trust doesn’t vouch for you, you don’t get the job, simple as.
Jobs paying money like that check you out, do you honestly think they would give you second glance when it comes to light you failed to show up on an unofficial action day which no one appears to be responsible for, they assume you were a trouble maker.Just be careful not to shoot yourselves in the foot, if you have something to fight for fair enough, but look at your own situation candidly; did you willingly pass over a £12 an hour grafting job to get a £8.50 an hour job cos it was easy or you got a new motor or you thought the take home looked decent when 65 hours plus nights out was totaled up?
Careful, with intelligent reasoned argument like this, you’ll be getting a bad name. Not once did you mention getting more for stacking shelves, and train drivers, My god man, don’t forget the train drivers 
The thing is though, many a driver moans about the situation as it stands, but how many are in unions, not many. Whether you agree with unions or not, the fact is that unionised companies tend to pay better, and have better general terms and conditions, now go figure 
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eddie snax:
Vid:
Just call it ‘Defect Day’ all those little things (and in some cases not so little) that haven’t been fixed for weeks or even months, stick them in the the book/ on the sheet once more and don’t move until they’ve actually been fixed!Tut tut, you mean you don’t defect now !
Of course I do, just depends on the site and what the issue is as to whether its a case of the the vehicle not moving or not until a fitter has been in attendance. Plenty of stuff that a driver ‘could’ insist on being looked at before leaving the yard that on another day he’d just crack on with no worries. Might not result in a wagon being off the road for the day but could easily be a few hours or more if enough from the same firm chuck in defects at the same time.
Does refusing to go any where because the radio wont work count, and yes I have done that
could i suggest we all go out for a dodgy indian/chinese/greek on the sunday night and all report sick on monday…?
sorry boss got the revenge of the rajas/mings/peloponnese cant come in
joking aside its a good idea and we as a group really do need to stick together … but will it happen…?
i know i am at the moment im getting hacked off with the petty officaldom at one of the places i work at
very late cancellations, petty rule making, draconian enforcement of minor infractions etc etc
its getting beyond acceptable
but we just put up with it and carry on working 60 long hours a week for 40 hours money
and i know there are a lot of folk much worse off than myself
Sadly I can’t see it working,
I still remember the hauliers that ran through the miners strike,one is a big player today renowned for paying crap wages,
I was also told to once go and do a tesco load from livingstone and when I got there they were picketing so I just pulled up and refused the job,
But in this industry we have too many yes men who will do literally anything they are told
eddie snax:
Honestscott76:
eddie snax:
Honestscott76:
Most firms have as part of your contract, that annual leave is booked in advance and at the company discretion as to time is available, in other words book early to avoid disappointment. This allows the employer to control how many staff are off at anytime. So it would be impossible to go down the mass holiday booking route without many breaking they’re contract.No, if you give ‘reasonable’ notice they cannot refuse. After all, what are employment agencies for?
Well we’ll have differ on that. Most will allow short notice leave for exceptional circumstances, but not for instance if you booked a holiday at short notice to get a give away deal, you’d usually get told to do one, if you expect time off at the same short notice.
I’ve mentioned nothing about ‘short notice’.
Ok, so you give them reasonable notice, and they get agency driver’s to cover your work, what was the point of your day off in regard to trying to force the issue of pay and conditions. The employer has still covered his commitments, and you’ve used some of the annual leave you’re entitled to anyway!
Bloody tablet, not sure how I got all the quote in the wrong places
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The whole point was in relation to the topic, ‘a mass driver protest’. You were arguing it was not possible due to contractual reasons. I pointed out, ‘reasonable notice’ would satisfy any contractual obligations to any reasonable employer. No employee has to give reasons or justification as to how they use annual leave.
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Comparisons of a truck driver to a train driver. Oh dear, a truck driver …takes a week. To pass a test to train a train driver takes. 12 months minimum …not as simple as a simple truck driving job … all due respects, people who would rather spend 5 days in a tin box rather than be at home with the family have themselves to blame… if not happy with your wage quit and move on …you lot choose to be mugged off by employers.
discoman:
people who would rather spend 5 days in a tin box rather than be at home with the family .
I love statements like this ^^^^ . I never feel to need to slag of drivers who are day men, why do they insist on making the assumption that trampers are in some way less than them?
It’s usually the type of person who has never had a night out who comes out with this ■■■■■■■■, or more usually the “yeah I was a tramper for six months, hated every minute of it” type who are too lacking in imagination to make the job anything other than a bloody endurance test! You know the type; will only park in MSA’s or will only park in laybys 'cos they’re too afraid to deviate off route by more than a minute, so consequently spend a miserable night on their ownsome just willing the clock to tick over to 9 hours so they can rinse and repeat again.
I’ll say it once more for the hard of thinking; “just because you personally lack the imagination or creativity to leave your vehicle, explore the local area, or even God forbid to talk to strangers it does not give you the automatic right to pontificate about something you know ■■■■ all about”
…and breathe…
discoman:
if not happy with your wage quit and move on …you lot choose to be mugged off by employers.
But real life isn’t as simple as at.
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