So how much does Mulgrew pay per hour then? 
robroy:
So how much does Mulgrew pay per hour then?
Iâm sure theyâre offering a competitive package and salary for professional, conscientious and service driven individuals. Arenât they part of the, Hurry up Haulage group of companies?
Ssshhh.
Big loss of pride this morning. Went to the shop and the ground was slippery with wet leaves. My feet just went from beneath me, down I went smashed my head and elbow on the ground. I donât think anyone saw me, Iâd have been so embarrassed. You know the, âare you alright old un, someone phone an ambulanceâ thing. Got back, head seems OK and will keep an eye open for concussion effects, with just a big scrape on my right elbow that Dettol will take care of. Getting older is a sod! 
Grandpa:
Getting older is a sod!
Agreed. Infinitely better than the alternative however.
robroy:
So how much does Mulgrew pay per hour then?
485 gross, 25 a night out and 10 something OT after 10hrs a day, that was Cairnryan earlier this year according to a mate who worked there.
Grandpa:
Which bloke is that?
The one who was educated in the UK?
Emigrated for over ten years? Went to live in Thailand was it? And when he ran out of money returned to the UK to do a few weeks work before deciding that life here was too tough, so he would take an early retirement. The guy who is currently taking tax payers funds while slagging off those paying those taxes as being underpaid lackeys?
Maybe Iâve got that all wrong?
If so correct me.Yes, Iâll correct you.
I was educated in the UK, paid for my degrees myself through government loans which had to be paid back. Lived in Thailand, worked in China for ten years. Apart from those periods worked and paid in like everyone else. I paid in, I now take out. Careful Franglais, in the depression thatâs coming you too might be joining me sooner than you think.
Should I have stayed in the UK after the 2008 crash and joined in the race to the bottom? You wanted the EU, you wanted European equality? Well, now youâve got it in your similar Easter European gig-economy, low paid ÂŁ9-10ph, employment slave market. Whatâs not to laugh about? We were well and truly had over by people with the same ideas as you who now canât understand why the transport sector is a dead duck employing professional drivers for pocket money. Give yourself a slap and wonder why there are an estimated 40K people with a HGV licence not using them.
Less a âcorrectionâ, regarding previous posts, more a confirmation?
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If you are too physically infirm, or mentally unfit to work, then you are quite entitled to claim benefits. Iâve never said otherwise.
All good under the rules.
Is container work too difficult for a 65yr old? I daresay it is for some, but not for others.
I do object to those who canât even be arsed to try and find something suitable, but we are all made of different stuff, so maybe I should be more tolerant of those who are not as mentally resilient as others.
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We are off topic of pay at a partucular company, but are discussing attitudes to pay rates being offered. Up to the mods to do as they deem fit?
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P S
I have read those Orwell books. Why are you referencing them?
What could a good socialist author, who railed against nationalism, and fought with the International Brigade have to do any of this?
TheUncaringCowboy:
robroy:
So how much does Mulgrew pay per hour then?485 gross, 25 a night out and 10 something OT after 10hrs a day, that was Cairnryan earlier this year according to a mate who worked there.
I take it 485 is for a normal 50 hours? So, if itâs 10 after 10 that means near minimum wage. Same as most others and not really surprising.
Ah yes, that good old standby George Orwell. The " go to " author for " I told you so " and " you just mark my words, youâll see "
Regards John.
old 67:
Ah yes, that good old standby George Orwell. The " go to " author for " I told you so " and " you just mark my words, youâll see "Regards John.
Nah, he wasnât really a âI told you soâ author, he was a social researcher who described conditions in the inter-war years.
Less a âcorrectionâ, regarding previous posts, more a confirmation?
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If you are too physically infirm, or mentally unfit to work, then you are quite entitled to claim benefits. Iâve never said otherwise.
All good under the rules.
Is container work too difficult for a 65yr old? I daresay it is for some, but not for others.
I do object to those who canât even be arsed to try and find something suitable, but we are all made of different stuff, so maybe I should be more tolerant of those who are not as mentally resilient as others.
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We are off topic of pay at a partucular company, but are discussing attitudes to pay rates being offered. Up to the mods to do as they deem fit?
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.
P S
I have read those Orwell books. Why are you referencing them?
What could a good socialist author, who railed against nationalism, and fought with the International Brigade have to do any of this?
Iâm not too physically infirm to drive, Iâm too physically old to do the laboring that goes with the long hours and I donât need a government to tell me that. Iâm bright enough to leave the low paid dead end jobs to you and resilient enough to withstand the nonsense behind a professional driver competitive package of ÂŁ9ph to pay for a directorâs expensive lifestyle. Donât knock it, education is a wonderful thing. 
Why mention Orwell? He details a time of laissez-faire (unrestrained) capitalism in the great depression when people were grateful for a pittance and those that couldnât keep up were thrown to the dogs. Very similar to todayâs gig-economy, when those at the bottom cheer on working till you drop for a minimum wage and canât understand why everyone else isnât. Read Orwell again and see if you can spot the point of what heâs trying to say.
What have the mods to do with this? Youâre the one whoâs kept the topic focused on me. Iâm just saying if youâre young enough and still able, get on with it and Iâll cheer you on from the sidelines. 
Grandpa:
huddersfield66:
peirre:
gothika:
10 an hour after 10 hrs 12 an hourGeesh ⌠are drivers still working for those rates in this modern day?
Some donât have an option. Its either that or the dole
I realize this may well attract flippant replies, but I chose the dole. Last summer I worked for half a dozen rip-of and scam jobs from both agencies and âpermanentâ employment and joined the 50 hours for ÂŁ350pw take home club, clean licence, experience etc.
Coming up to retirement I now get just over ÂŁ200pw on Universal Credit. No stress, no treated like a dog and I get to bed every night. Let all these rip off haulage companies go bankrupt and I wonât shed a tear for any of them.
Hmmm.
Who is making it all about you?
âI chose the doleâ.
If you are queried on what you post why so shocked?
No mention in your first post of ill health or being unfit, a passing comment to stress.
Grandpa:
old 67:
Ah yes, that good old standby George Orwell. The " go to " author for " I told you so " and " you just mark my words, youâll see "Regards John.
Nah, he wasnât really a âI told you soâ author, he was a social researcher who described conditions in the inter-war years.
Nah, itâs the " I told you so " and " you just mark my words youâll see " people who regularly and oh so predictably mention Orwell. His name crops up in forums almost as often as old Enoch !! 
Regards John.
TheUncaringCowboy:
robroy:
So how much does Mulgrew pay per hour then?485 gross, 25 a night out and 10 something OT after 10hrs a day, that was Cairnryan earlier this year according to a mate who worked there.
Was the ÂŁ485 not a recent âpay riseâ after Management hit panic button when 7 drivers handed notice in one Friday??
Was it not ÂŁ460 until about early Sept there??
Big Truck:
TheUncaringCowboy:
robroy:
So how much does Mulgrew pay per hour then?485 gross, 25 a night out and 10 something OT after 10hrs a day, that was Cairnryan earlier this year according to a mate who worked there.
Was the ÂŁ485 not a recent âpay riseâ after Management hit panic button when 7 drivers handed notice in one Friday??
Was it not ÂŁ460 until about early Sept there??
Couldnât tell you, a good mate of mine was there briefly along with 2 other guys I know and that just what he said it was. Dreadful company to work for, ridiculously easy work. All 3 of them parked the lorries and chucked the keys back one day after Mulgrew tried their bullying with them.
Grandpa:
Less a âcorrectionâ, regarding previous posts, more a confirmation?
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If you are too physically infirm, or mentally unfit to work, then you are quite entitled to claim benefits. Iâve never said otherwise.
All good under the rules.
Is container work too difficult for a 65yr old? I daresay it is for some, but not for others.
I do object to those who canât even be arsed to try and find something suitable, but we are all made of different stuff, so maybe I should be more tolerant of those who are not as mentally resilient as others.
.
We are off topic of pay at a partucular company, but are discussing attitudes to pay rates being offered. Up to the mods to do as they deem fit?
.
.
P S
I have read those Orwell books. Why are you referencing them?
What could a good socialist author, who railed against nationalism, and fought with the International Brigade have to do any of this?Iâm not too physically infirm to drive, Iâm too physically old to do the laboring that goes with the long hours and I donât need a government to tell me that. Iâm bright enough to leave the low paid dead end jobs to you and resilient enough to withstand the nonsense behind a professional driver competitive package of ÂŁ9ph to pay for a directorâs expensive lifestyle. Donât knock it, education is a wonderful thing.
Why mention Orwell? He details a time of laissez-faire (unrestrained) capitalism in the great depression when people were grateful for a pittance and those that couldnât keep up were thrown to the dogs. Very similar to todayâs gig-economy, when those at the bottom cheer on working till you drop for a minimum wage and canât understand why everyone else isnât. Read Orwell again and see if you can spot the point of what heâs trying to say.
What have the mods to do with this? Youâre the one whoâs kept the topic focused on me. Iâm just saying if youâre young enough and still able, get on with it and Iâll cheer you on from the sidelines.
Your age alone should be no barrier to gainful employment. Be that as a driver or summat else. If youâre physically unfit that is different. Iâve known 70 plus drivers who can push pallet trucks around. Certainly not everyone of that age can, but saying youâre too old at 65(?) simply isnât valid.
No container jobs around?
So many assumptions!
My job is âlow paidâ and âdead endâ?
Been polishing your crystal balls?
Being bright and being educated are not synonymous.
Some very bright people have received scant formal education, and there are some well educated idiots out there.
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But, I fear weâre off againâŚ
So Iâll go spent some of my pitiful pay in the sort of run down restaurant we ill educated dim drivers enjoy.
Saw the menu earlier:
Couple of kirs, seafood starter, roast duck breast with green salad, cheese selection and probably a chocolate based desert. Chuffing dead end here.
Bye.
old 67:
Grandpa:
old 67:
Ah yes, that good old standby George Orwell. The " go to " author for " I told you so " and " you just mark my words, youâll see "Regards John.
Nah, he wasnât really a âI told you soâ author, he was a social researcher who described conditions in the inter-war years.
Nah, itâs the " I told you so " and " you just mark my words youâll see " people who regularly and oh so predictably mention Orwell. His name crops up in forums almost as often as old Enoch !!
Regards John.
No honestly, John. Youâre thinking of Orwellâs â1984â which contained his prediction of the future based on the rise of fascism and National Socialism. His works on social research made no predictions, but gave a detailed account of working class life in Paris and London during the depression.
Grandpa:
old 67:
Grandpa:
old 67:
Ah yes, that good old standby George Orwell. The " go to " author for " I told you so " and " you just mark my words, youâll see "Regards John.
Nah, he wasnât really a âI told you soâ author, he was a social researcher who described conditions in the inter-war years.
Nah, itâs the " I told you so " and " you just mark my words youâll see " people who regularly and oh so predictably mention Orwell. His name crops up in forums almost as often as old Enoch !!
Regards John.
No honestly, John. Youâre thinking of Orwellâs â1984â which contained his prediction of the future based on the rise of fascism and National Socialism. His works on social research made no predictions, but gave a detailed account of working class life in Paris and London during the depression.
AhâŚI see. Thank you.
Regards John.
Your age alone should be no barrier to gainful employment. Be that as a driver or summat else. If youâre physically unfit that is different. Iâve known 70 plus drivers who can push pallet trucks around. Certainly not everyone of that age can, but saying youâre too old at 65(?) simply isnât valid.
No container jobs around?
So many assumptions!
My job is âlow paidâ and âdead endâ?
Been polishing your crystal balls?
Being bright and being educated are not synonymous.
Some very bright people have received scant formal education, and there are some well educated idiots out there.
.
But, I fear weâre off againâŚ
So Iâll go spent some of my pitiful pay in the sort of run down restaurant we ill educated dim drivers enjoy.
Saw the menu earlier:
Couple of kirs, seafood starter, roast duck breast with green salad, cheese selection and probably a chocolate based desert. Chuffing dead end here.
Bye.
Age is a barrier to physical labour. Everyone knows one old guy of 70 still working, but theyâre a bit thin on the ground.
If the vast majority are working for a near minimum wage, I suspect youâre no different, unless youâre one of the âex-SASâ and âloads a moneyâ characters one often meets.
Yes, youâre right about the non-correlation between bright and educated, but it also applies to the stupid and uneducated and there far more of those around.
You shouldnât take it so much to heart, but if you think youâre an âill-educated dim driverâ (your quote), who am I to argue? Bread and dripping all round if you had your way?
The world is not black and white Franglais and health isnât determined by the Birthday you get your pension on, or government rules and regulations. If people have a choice, more and more are getting out of driving. Look at the responses here about Mulgrews and you think itâs some kind of personal duty to work for people like that and we should be proud?
In the coming civil disorder, look out for the little old bloke with white hair because that will be one job I can and will do.
What was you doing for a living in China?
commonrail:
What was you doing for a living in China?
State School teacher.