jonnytruckfest:
Thanks mate, I couldn’t stand being on the dole not just for the fact of feeling like I was scrounging off of the state but having to go into the job centre every 2 weeks to watch all the beady eyes on you giving you evils But even the woman who interviewed me at the job centre was surprised that I was going in for my interview asking to be taken off of the dole with my letter of congratulations you’ve got the job etc. As I’ posted on here a while back I had a little bother at the start with transport to get to work and with the clocking in and out machine but all is sorted. The fact I’m earning my own money makes me feel better knowing I can go out with money in my pocket knowing it was well earned…Don’t get me wrong I’m still one of the young lads that loves to play on the playstation and all that but there’s a time and a place for it, when I clock on for work on day 1 I’m in work mode, when I clock out on day 4 I’m on my time until my 4 days are up and I can go back into work and do it all over again And if not for my job I wouldn’t be able to do up my room how I want it to be, starting with a new computer being ordered tomorrow
You start at the bottom and work your way up, I’m still at the bottom but I have a long time yet to get to the top I’ll get knocked down but there’s no harm in climbing back up
Cheers
Jonny
so you get £4 50 per hour so take home about £210 a week do you think you could pay rent or morgage on that.How old are you and are the firm just useing you when they have to pay more will it be bye bye jonny.
£4.50 an hour is my basic wage, after 7pm it goes upto I think £6.28 an hour. My overtime rate being the same so anything after my 48 hour week is overtime. And the apprenticeship I’m doing is to ‘learn’ the different aspects of the warehouse job role…but if people can’t already gather I’m not too fussed of the learning side, I’m doing a job just like everybody else and getting a few ‘qualifications’ on the side too. The company have said that after the apprenticeship we’ll be taken on full time IF we should decide to do so, which I probably am considering they’ve said they’re willing to help get my lgv license paid for, if they’re willing to help then why not? Being 18 i’ve hardly ■■■■ all to lose with no sprogs to worry about etc, the only thing I need to make sure is paid is my rent at the end of the month as I get paid monthly not weekly.
And from what I’ve seen of the firm so far they’re all about ‘training’ people up, for me I’m there to work earn my keep and go home. I have a laugh like everyone else and I work hard for the money I get. It’s experience in my pocket at the same time and if people were around when I took up my first job I didn’t last over long at that place but in the same sense all I was doing was stacking buckets, labelling them or putting them into boxes to be shipped out. At least with the job i’m doing the experience is actually valuable and the ‘training’ I’m getting too. It’s comical because everyone who said I would pack my job in after the first couple weeks or couple months have been proven wrong, I’m still in my job and enjoying it and earning the money that pays for what I want. Even if I didn’t have a full time job at the end of it, I’ve gained experience which would give me a better chance of getting work than I would have last year with no experience…
And my idea of gaining qualifications etc has never been to ‘translate’ into driving trucks, it’s about getting experience in something else should I not be able to drive a truck for a living. Not being stupid enough to throw my eggs into one basket to find that one day I can’t drive a truck and nothing to fall back on Plus it’s to gain money so if I decided to go about getting my hgv training myself I could afford to do it…so how people think this is my idea to ‘translate’ qualifications…it isn’t. It’s essentially more things I can fall back on if truck driving should not be for me or if something stops me from doing it?
skids:
One thing that narks me off is the people who are quite happy to take tax credits to top up a low paid job when they can but wont get a higher paid job. To me it is sponging. I have been on tax credits myself when I needed to be but now don’t recieve any.
If you take child benefit (payable for people on 40k still) then that’s presumably sponging as well?
Oops I took a tax rebate - that’ll be sponging too - I should be handing all my earnings over to those thieving gits that run the country eh?
I’ll take a higher paid job when there’s a higher paid job to be had!
I’ve already said I don’t anticipate one being available until 2016 and beyond.
Wasting my money working twice as many hours with twice as many commute trips for hardly any extra money isn’t my idea of getting by.
There’s no pride to be had from effectively paying to go to work because its 50 hours x £7 per hour over 6 shifts. I’m quite happy to work 50 hours for £10 ph in 5 shifts, so where’s the duff worth ethic in that? Not bothering to goto work because the shift gross doesn’t meet £100? - If I’d be losing a third in deductions, and the round trip costs £25 in fuel, then why TF not?? If such work is available weeks on the spin, then I’ll work the weeks on the spin until it dries up like it seems to after every damned bank holiday around here! If I’m sitting on my arse at home, it’ll be because I didn’t get the 5x10 hours I wanted for the week. I’m not interesting in commuting for short shifts, working for less than £10ph, or taking less than 25 hours worth of work in one go - because I’d be penalised in some way if I do, be it losing most of my pay in fuel costs, or outright work more hours for less money. I’f THAT is sponging, then I’d better be ready for my next boss to ask me if I could just work on one of those tesco style apprentice things where they just pay your expenses right? He might think I’m some mug who’s too prideful to turn down a bum deal that looks like it came from a 52-deck of arses!
Low paid work shouldn’t be treated as if it were crack cocaine basically is all I’m saying.
Taking a low paid job keeps the pay for that job low, removes a full time number of hours from the economy, and does the big-picture driving economy no favours. Most importantly, it makes one an addict to long hours, often away from home.
I’ve done my decades of long hours, but I’m not old enough to consider retirement yet. Maybe all those pensioners getting a state pension are sponging as well though right? - It’s a state handout after all!
It’s as if people around the further country are conspiring in the race to the bottom that is today’s labour market!
From experience, I’d argue the cost of living around the country is pretty similar, and yet there are current government arguments for dropping payscales outside of the southeast which I don’t agree with at all - FFS I’m trying to argue the corner of many of you on here that live outside the southeast! Back me up or go quietly into the night if you’re all too hard-of-thinking to see what the government is doing to the workforce without even token resistance from us!
If being a “typical southeasterner” makes me some kind of scumbag (because north-south divide is what this critisism of me is really all about right?), then it would explain why the words “prosperous” and “southeast” so often go together. It seems we have the right mindset down here to push ahead our lot compared to the rest of the country - because it looks like the 1980-86 recession is returning with a vengeance!
Calm down, It was not a personal attack at you, there are however people who will not work full time so as they can get the tax credits top ups which is money that the people who do work full time pay in taxes. I happen to think that is morally wrong!
Of course, child benefit is not sponging as it is a universal credit. How can a tax rebate be sponging either? its the governments way of saying that based on what you have earned, you have paid too much tax!
there are however people who will not work full time so as they can get the tax credits top ups
I don’t know if it still applies under the present system but remember one guy that I worked with refusing ALL overtime for a period before his benefits/ income were assessed anually and after they were settled he would be back on maximum o/t.
That IS taking the P.
Respect to you, you are supporting yourself. We would all be better off if we weren’t being taxed to support spongers. I accept that there are some on here who choose not to work because the way the system works they would be worse off, that’s the fault of the system not the person.
Sorry to say but that wage is better than £65 pw on ESA so you would be much better off evan after all deductions to me it is a no brainer & as I dont need a high wage would poss suite me for now the only prob might be the travelling each week but hey that is life gone are the days of high wages etc
Immigrant:
now listen.
The one Company i worked for paid £6.50 Monday to Freiday from 06.00 to 18.00 and £9.- sat,Sunday,Bank Holiday and Overtime.It also gave a £50.- Bonus every week. 48 Hour day gave me minimum £370.- take Home and highest before Tax was £944.-/Week
Have the Payslip still here
Now, THERE IS the problem with this industry, 48hr days, no wonder we’re all walking zombies
jonnytruckfest:
Simple warehouse apprenticeship malarky. Picking and packing clothes on the tesco contract.
The jobs I’ve had thus far are:
Picking
Packing
Loading(Cardboard or Clothes to go out)/Unloading Trailers (Clothes to be put away on shelves ready to be picked etc…)
Putaways
Underfives
Bulk Picks
Admin work
Goods In
Click & Collect
Supervising of conveyor belt.
General Housekeeping
My main jobs are usually picking, underfives, putaways, loading of the cardboard trailer, click and collect and general housekeeping. Averaging about 650+ picks a day but varies upon the work load A jobs a job, and they know I’m wanting to get my lgv license so they said once the apprenticeship is up and i’m working full time they’ll look into putting me through my tests etc So I can’t be doing all bad
Cheers
Jonny
That sounds pathetic mate, I would recomend you to go an study instead of writing your life off and working in a warehouse. Or at least go to college and get an NVQ, it will still be much better than a warehouse.
jonnytruckfest:
Simple warehouse apprenticeship malarky. Picking and packing clothes on the tesco contract.
The jobs I’ve had thus far are:
Picking
Packing
Loading(Cardboard or Clothes to go out)/Unloading Trailers (Clothes to be put away on shelves ready to be picked etc…)
Putaways
Underfives
Bulk Picks
Admin work
Goods In
Click & Collect
Supervising of conveyor belt.
General Housekeeping
My main jobs are usually picking, underfives, putaways, loading of the cardboard trailer, click and collect and general housekeeping. Averaging about 650+ picks a day but varies upon the work load A jobs a job, and they know I’m wanting to get my lgv license so they said once the apprenticeship is up and i’m working full time they’ll look into putting me through my tests etc So I can’t be doing all bad
Cheers
Jonny
That sounds pathetic mate, I would recomend you to go an study instead of writing your life off and working in a warehouse. Or at least go to college and get an NVQ, it will still be much better than a warehouse.
Are you saying that because you genuinely think that a person you’ve never met is over-qualified for his job, or are you trying to elevate your own position in life?
I think that any person deserves something better than a warehouse, and therefore you need to gain proper qualifications, and by proper i dont mean an SIA badge or a class 1 licence.
Riho:
I think that any person deserves something better than a warehouse, and therefore you need to gain proper qualifications, and by proper i dont mean an SIA badge or a class 1 licence.
So who do you propose does the job of warehouse workers?
So a handful of drivers… and others on this forum… would work for next to zilch and astonishingly, some would prefer European drivers doing your jobs. So that solves the low wage/poor working conditions problem and everything is OK Eh!.. and you expect everyone to do, and think the same?
Well roll on the day the Europeans take over the UK transport Industry…then let’s see what your attitude and opinions would be then. Because believe it. They will take over…and you will continue to be paid extremely low wages and have worse working conditions…if you continue to get employment that is…if you all don’t do something about it.
I’m so glad I live in London. In fact I’m that glad, that I’m off out to spend a gezellig afternoon/evening with my mates. We’re going to be paying in excess of £4 a pint for Foster’s, £60 to watch the show and £4.50 for a bottle of Becks when we’re in there. Cabs there and back will be £45 each, a bit dear but I want to have a beer and I don’t want to leave my MK2 Jag weekend motor outside at night. I don’t know how I do it on my abysmal wages.
I’m so glad I live in London. In fact I’m that glad, that I’m off out to spend a gezellig afternoon/evening with my mates. We’re going to be paying in excess of £4 a pint for Foster’s, £60 to watch the show and £4.50 for a bottle of Becks when we’re in there. Cabs there and back will be £45 each, a bit dear but I want to have a beer and I don’t want to leave my MK2 Jag weekend motor outside at night. I don’t know how I do it on my abysmal wages.
Riho:
I think that any person deserves something better than a warehouse, and therefore you need to gain proper qualifications, and by proper i dont mean an SIA badge or a class 1 licence.
Take you have not read any of JTF post then
A brief he failed at school went to collage got some qualifications re done his GCSE decided that after a couple years that he had enough & was time to move on so found a job ok not the best but he is happier can now afford to do his car test which he has always wanted then go form there think the wear house is a means to an end
Oh btw I have worked in a waerhouse no the money not good but was enough but there was a good set of people I worked with & was a means to an end for me as that was the best on offer at the time
Riho:
I think that any person deserves something better than a warehouse, and therefore you need to gain proper qualifications, and by proper i dont mean an SIA badge or a class 1 licence.
at the moment qualifications mean next to nothing i have a degree, hnd and gcse’s yet still drive a truck at the moment as most jobs are so poorly paid or working shifts, weekends and most warehouse bods earn not far less than a driver in any case
so fair play to the lad if he enjoys it, can live on the wages thats more important than doing a ‘proper job’ to me! your at work a long time and at least in a warehouse you have some progression if you show willing.
But even the woman who interviewed me at the job centre was surprised that I was going in for my interview asking to be taken off of the dole with my letter of congratulations you’ve got the job etc. As I’ posted on here a while back I had a little bother at the start with transport to get to work and with the clocking in and out machine but all is sorted. The fact I’m earning my own money makes me feel better knowing I can go out with money in my pocket knowing it was well earned…Don’t get me wrong I’m still one of the young lads that loves to play on the playstation and all that but there’s a time and a place for it, when I clock on for work on day 1 I’m in work mode, when I clock out on day 4 I’m on my time until my 4 days are up and I can go back into work and do it all over again
And if not for my job I wouldn’t be able to do up my room how I want it to be, starting with a new computer being ordered tomorrow
I’ll get knocked down but there’s no harm in climbing back up
Plus it’s to gain money so if I decided to go about getting my hgv training myself I could afford to do it…so how people think this is my idea to ‘translate’ qualifications…it isn’t. It’s essentially more things I can fall back on if truck driving should not be for me or if something stops me from doing it?
If such work is available weeks on the spin, then I’ll work the weeks on the spin until it dries up like it seems to after every damned bank holiday around here! If I’m sitting on my arse at home, it’ll be because I didn’t get the 5x10 hours I wanted for the week. I’m not interesting in commuting for short shifts, working for less than £10ph, or taking less than 25 hours worth of work in one go - because I’d be penalised in some way if I do, be it losing most of my pay in fuel costs, or outright work more hours for less money. I’f THAT is sponging, then I’d better be ready for my next boss to ask me if I could just work on one of those tesco style apprentice things where they just pay your expenses right? He might think I’m some mug who’s too prideful to turn down a bum deal that looks like it came from a 52-deck of arses! 
- FFS I’m trying to argue the corner of many of you on here that live outside the southeast! Back me up or go quietly into the night if you’re all too hard-of-thinking to see what the government is doing to the workforce without even token resistance from us! 
