Adblu in diesel tank

It’s an Iveco…

If the injectors/filters are shagged/blocked you won’t notice any difference in the performance at all.

The last time I was dipped was years ago at Felix by the main gate. I assume that with all these new anti-syphon devices on our tanks they dip with a really really really small pipe to go through the holes?

yourhavingalarf:
It’s an Iveco…

If the injectors/filters are shagged/blocked you won’t notice any difference in the performance at all.

The last time I was dipped was years ago at Felix by the main gate. I assume that with all these new anti-syphon devices on our tanks they dip with a really really really small pipe to go through the holes?

Its about the size of one of those tiny mixer Coke cans with a long thin tube. Its squeezable so it can ■■■■ a sample up without assistance. The last time I saw one it had bright green liquid in it.

yourhavingalarf:
It’s an Iveco…

If the injectors/filters are shagged/blocked you won’t notice any difference in the performance at all.

The last time I was dipped was years ago at Felix by the main gate. I assume that with all these new anti-syphon devices on our tanks they dip with a really really really small pipe to go through the holes?

There was some controvercy with HMRC when anti-syphon devices were first started to be fitted to trucks because they could not get their pipe into the tanks, saying they are obstructing them from carrying out their duties, and going as far as wanting them removing so they could dip the tank.

My mate who’s a mechanic once told of a college of his who after fitting a new engine to an artic unit began to fill the cooling system with coolant.
After many much time and too many litres of expensive coolant he shouted “How much rad fluid do these take”
He then twigged he was filling via the engine oil filler :unamused:
To be fair though apartantly the oil and coolant fillers were next to each other on the truck.
Dont think any harm was done. Just a case of draining the sump and loosing a few £100s of oil and coolant.
Had somebody tried to start the engine though…

raymundo:
dvsa dipping tanks, I thought it were an hmrc issue ■■?

hmrc dip tanks, dvsa dip wallets, and the Tories dip wicks.

Serious science question now:

If you got about a cup full of adblue in the diesel tank - would it mix and dilute in enough so it would just burn with the fuel the same as it would when put through it’s normally seperate injection systeM?

Winseer:
Serious science question now:

If you got about a cup full of adblue in the diesel tank - would it mix and dilute in enough so it would just burn with the fuel the same as it would when put through it’s normally seperate injection systeM?

The Avonmouth branch of club plant pot have put various amounts of adblu into the diesel tanks of our trucks over the years, a couple of litres wrecked a DAF when a particular plant pot realised his mistake after a couple of litres of adblu was put in the diesel he thought that pouring another 250 litres of diesel on top would be ok, it wasn’t.

From what the fitters say it appears that the pump draws fuel from the bottom of the tank, adblu being water based cannot blend with diesel and goes straight to the bottom of the tank and is immediately drawn into the fuel system, the plant pot in question didn’t make it the 200 yards to the parking bays.

Best advice if you do do what most of believe to be impossible and add adblu to the diesel don’t start the engine.

trevHCS:
Be interesting to know if they used a proper adblue pump or just attached it to some other generic pump with a generic nozzle. Also wonder if they were a new driver as no one explained to me the difference between adblue and diesel - luckily I knew from previous sources, but a newbie could just see a pump and drop in a load of the wrong stuff I guess.

I think your maybe being too kind. I have never seen an AdBlue pump that wasn’t obvious and/or labelled & i’ve yet to work anywhere where this hasn’t happened, anybody with half a brain cell should surely be able to get their head around the logic that it doesn’t go in the diesel tank. Shouldn’t DCPC be making new drivers aware of AdBlue anyway?

I think it sums up the calibre of some people coming into this game that this is becoming so common, it’s embarrassing. I’ve even found AdBlue in the washer bottle. :unamused:

A cup full you would probably get away with as it would spread around the bottom of the tank and still be below the pick up pipe and then get caught but filter/water trap in the normal way of condensaton.
Only if the amount overwhelms the trap would it make it to the injector pump with terminal results.
Best practice is to not to get adblue anywhere the fuel system.

rob22888:

trevHCS:
Be interesting to know if they used a proper adblue pump or just attached it to some other generic pump with a generic nozzle. Also wonder if they were a new driver as no one explained to me the difference between adblue and diesel - luckily I knew from previous sources, but a newbie could just see a pump and drop in a load of the wrong stuff I guess.

I think your maybe being too kind. I have never seen an AdBlue pump that wasn’t obvious and/or labelled & i’ve yet to work anywhere where this hasn’t happened, anybody with half a brain cell should surely be able to get their head around the logic that it doesn’t go in the diesel tank. Shouldn’t DCPC be making new drivers aware of AdBlue anyway?

I think it sums up the calibre of some people coming into this game that this is becoming so common, it’s embarrassing. I’ve even found AdBlue in the washer bottle. :unamused:

Before our fleet went over to autos we had several incidents of the clutch reservoir being filled with screen wash, it does make you wonder about this industry where you now have to go to the workshop for screen wash where we can’t be trusted to do it ourselves.

When my sprogs were small I played with their shape sorter box and it got me thinking that we could have something similar for fuel nozzles and filler openings.Ther could be round for diesel and square for ad-blu with other shapes for screen wash and coolant.I might patent this.

alamcculloch:
When my sprogs were small I played with their shape sorter box and it got me thinking that we could have something similar for fuel nozzles and filler openings.Ther could be round for diesel and square for ad-blu with other shapes for screen wash and coolant.I might patent this.

Hahaha not gonna work, there are drivers out there who try and fit a 14’9" lorry under a 13’ bridge

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bubsy06:

alamcculloch:
When my sprogs were small I played with their shape sorter box and it got me thinking that we could have something similar for fuel nozzles and filler openings.Ther could be round for diesel and square for ad-blu with other shapes for screen wash and coolant.I might patent this.

Hahaha not gonna work, there are drivers out there who try and fit a 14’9" lorry under a 13’ bridge

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Classic answer.
But the idea of shaped nozzles is excellent! Simple cheap and it should work.

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Franglais:

bubsy06:

alamcculloch:
When my sprogs were small I played with their shape sorter box and it got me thinking that we could have something similar for fuel nozzles and filler openings.Ther could be round for diesel and square for ad-blu with other shapes for screen wash and coolant.I might patent this.

Hahaha not gonna work, there are drivers out there who try and fit a 14’9" lorry under a 13’ bridge

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Classic answer.
But the idea of shaped nozzles is excellent! Simple cheap and it should work.

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Unless its dark. They will spend an hour trying to put the star shaped adblue nozzle into the square diesel tank filler pipe, get fed up and just squirt the adblue above the diesel filler pipe, 400litres of adblue in the diesel tank and 4000 litres on the forecourt

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Franglais:

bubsy06:

alamcculloch:
When my sprogs were small I played with their shape sorter box and it got me thinking that we could have something similar for fuel nozzles and filler openings.Ther could be round for diesel and square for ad-blu with other shapes for screen wash and coolant.I might patent this.

Hahaha not gonna work, there are drivers out there who try and fit a 14’9" lorry under a 13’ bridge

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Classic answer.
But the idea of shaped nozzles is excellent! Simple cheap and it should work.

I’d like to think it, but not sure it would pass plant pot testing.
I’m sure they would find a way to mangle, jam or bend everything so it wouldn’t even work in it’s intended.
Opp’s I run over the round one, but now it won’t fit in the round hole.
Opp’s I squished what I thought was the square hose, but at least it now fits in the rhombus hole! :laughing:

Evil8Beezle:

Franglais:

bubsy06:

alamcculloch:
When my sprogs were small I played with their shape sorter box and it got me thinking that we could have something similar for fuel nozzles and filler openings.Ther could be round for diesel and square for ad-blu with other shapes for screen wash and coolant.I might patent this.

Hahaha not gonna work, there are drivers out there who try and fit a 14’9" lorry under a 13’ bridge

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Classic answer.
But the idea of shaped nozzles is excellent! Simple cheap and it should work.

I’d like to think it, but not sure it would pass plant pot testing.
I’m sure they would find a way to mangle, jam or bend everything so it wouldn’t even work in it’s intended.
Opp’s I run over the round one, but now it won’t fit in the round hole.
Opp’s I squished what I thought was the square hose, but at least it now fits in the rhombus hole! [emoji38]

Please. No comments about starfish shaped holes or a Startled ■■■■■ avatar will be appearing. .

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In 1992 our house gor burgled and it was reported in the local rag that 8000 duty free ciggies and 4 kg of tobacco among other thingd were stolen. About a week after this report the door bell rung and thru the frosted glass I could make out two bods in uniforms but when I opened the door the first thing I noticed was the portcullis of the customs service an I bricked it thinking they had come about the (alleged) evasion of duty on the smokes but in effect they were there because one of my vans I had sold earlier had been stopped in a road side check and red was found in the tank but the people I had sold the van too hadn’t notified Swansea, they said they would do that. Two vehicles were checked that were in front of the house but all was well cos I aint one to evade the duty :slight_smile:

Wrt DCPC - I don’t even remember much talked about AdBlue. I THINK there might have been a question on Mod 1, basically asking what the stuff does and that’s it. My knowledge of what AdBlue is, where it goes, etc, is all from previous experience - so can imagine how a non-mechanically inclined person who has come from van driving would assume the first tank they see takes diesel. DCPC teaches you a lot of stuff you don’t need to know, and not of stuff you do need. I still don’t know how to operate a digi tacho other than shove my card in and press buttons until something happens - and they don’t teach you anything at all about paper tachos.

I’m always double checking that I’m not putting diesel in the adblue or vice versa - but then I get paranoid I’m misfueling my van or car every time I visit the filling station.

As a new driver, if I get put on a truck I’m not familiar with, I just ask the shop question after question until they get annoyed with me. Better that than buggering up something.

Don’t any of you “Billybigriggers” who’ve never made a stupid/silly mistake go to Avonmouth Truckstop in the dark looking fuel!!!

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Big Truck:
Don’t any of you “Billybigriggers” who’ve never made a stupid/silly mistake go to Avonmouth Truckstop in the dark looking fuel!!!

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Filling a diesel tank with adblue is not a silly mistake, it is careless.

A.