irishrover:
use a name:
ive been using the A41 up to whitchurch/chester from the M54, since 1987 a lot of the time at night, and its always had that reputation.
ive been down it on the limiter, at 40 and somewhere in between, i think it takes just as long at 50/56 mph as it does at 40/45 mph to get to the sainsbury’s roundabout at chester from the M54.
thats due to roundabouts slow wisemans tankers, edwards fridges, gro-continental and culina out of mkt drayton, and edge transport’s, decker but to be fair to him he always lets you go.
i tend to do 45/50 mph, i know all the overtaking spots as i used to drive fairly quickly along it and try to let people get on.
the only poor driving i can think of is from a white fh what pulls a whey tanker, im sure he thinks he is in the 1950’s he does poodle along at his own slow speed but perks up when he see’s you coming ?
its a bit of a race track but the roads good enough and plenty of places to go past if you bide your time.
im still of the opinion there is only 15 mins saved going up the A41 to Chester versus going round M6 M56 ect.
i used it if going to holyhead or wrexham .
11 minates is all your taking off from using A41 to going up M6 /M56 on to A55 to holyhead.
Me and few other has timed this few times against each other one up A41 and one up M6 etc.
When you count all roundabouts and speed limits through likes of villages/built up area on A41 your gaining very little ahead.
I can vouch for that, done that timing test a few different ways and you’re spot on.
You’d think Irish drivers would be glad to get a break from crap single carriageways with farmers getting in the way/tourists/slow lorries etc.
Maybe they just want a wave from the people with the big tricolour on one of the right hand (westbound) bends 
weeto:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
commonrail:
mazzer:
commonrail:
it`s no excuse
I see your logo is that of a triumph bike take it you have never taken her over the national speed limit, sure you would be pretty annoyed if every time you did Miss Marple rang the police. Not having a dig just putting it from another perspective
yes I have,but we`re talking about suicidal overtakes here.
You wouldn’t have them if your doing well above 40 but below 50, well not the trucks any way, I’ve had plod creep up behind whilst doing 47 on a S/C and nothing was done about it.
Doing 40 or less is dangerous not only for you, but for other road users, I’m not condoning you wanting to do limit, but coming on here and moaning about it won’t get you any sympathy.
You can’t get done for keeping up with the flow of traffic, If some numpty wants to go flat out, I will follow him flat out, on me own I will do between 45 and 48.
Obviously there are some forces stricter than others!
I’m sorry officer I was just keeping up with the flow of traffic I’m sure that will work in a court of law
The limit is the limit go over it at your own risk
Sorry? Who is gonna pull you when your keeping up with 2 other trucks? A copper would only be able to pull the lead vehicle!!!
But a mobile camera van will get all three of you
People can argue the toss all day long but a truck going along any single carigway a road at 40 mph is within the law a truck doing over 40 mph is not
If you want to break it and drive like an ■■■ all well and good but don’t moan at people who are doing nothing wrong
I beleave this forum is titled profesional drivers forum so why can’t people act profesional
alder:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
commonrail:
mazzer:
commonrail:
it`s no excuse
I see your logo is that of a triumph bike take it you have never taken her over the national speed limit, sure you would be pretty annoyed if every time you did Miss Marple rang the police. Not having a dig just putting it from another perspective
yes I have,but we`re talking about suicidal overtakes here.
You wouldn’t have them if your doing well above 40 but below 50, well not the trucks any way, I’ve had plod creep up behind whilst doing 47 on a S/C and nothing was done about it.
Doing 40 or less is dangerous not only for you, but for other road users, I’m not condoning you wanting to do limit, but coming on here and moaning about it won’t get you any sympathy.
You can’t get done for keeping up with the flow of traffic, If some numpty wants to go flat out, I will follow him flat out, on me own I will do between 45 and 48.
Obviously there are some forces stricter than others!
I’m sorry officer I was just keeping up with the flow of traffic I’m sure that will work in a court of law
The limit is the limit go over it at your own risk
Sorry? Who is gonna pull you when your keeping up with 2 other trucks? A copper would only be able to pull the lead vehicle!!!
But a mobile camera van will get all three of you
People can argue the toss all day long but a truck going along any single carigway a road at 40 mph is within the law a truck doing over 40 mph is not
If you want to break it and drive like an ■■■ all well and good but don’t moan at people who are doing nothing wrong
I beleave this forum is titled profesional drivers forum so why can’t people act profesional
+2
+3, Reckon that’s a pretty difinitive post.
milkchurns:
i’m 1 of the lorry drivers that travel that road weekly. why done u get yourself a cb set and drive them yoke on.these v8’s we drive dont sit well at 40mph.if u want to drive at 40mph so be it.why cant you 40mph drivers just not use your common curtiousy and signal to us when the road is clear ahead…when we go to overtake why cant yous take the foot of the pedel for abit and let us go by u safely.its yous that are more danger on the road than us 50-56 mph drivers…and what is it about yous that when it comes to a dualcarrage way yous can manage to put the speed upto 56 and not let anyone pass…thats is just pure thick.
Due to the laws in this country your point of view is invalid. 1/10 for effort.
That said on a dual carriageway stretch I will happily let you past.
Hiya …for you drivers who don’t know about the speed sensors i’ve just googled one for you.
when you see two white marks on the road like in the photo, just near is a post about 2 ft high
near the lines. further up the road youll see a car(not marked)possibly with a person reading a
news paper. on his dash theirs a camera. from the post at the side of the road are wirers
that connect into the camera. bingo they’ve got you. this sensor is about 1 mile north of the M54
on the A41 just across from some cottages. the car looks like its visiting the cottages but across
the road.just before the white lines is a sign with a speed camera sign on. thats when you look
for a van, not a sneaky system like they use in shropshire.their are 5 sensors each way between
the m54 and market drayton. have a look for them.
thats the lines to look for
John
I shall be driving the A41 tomorrow loaded with 22 tonnes of cheese doubt if ill even get to 40mph in places and to top it off be looking for a place I’ve never been to before Edwards transport anyone know where they live? I’ve got the address but directions would be nice
Hiya… if your traveling south down the A41 go past the barracks then the old cafe (halfway house) on your right
you go maybe 2 miles. theirs a place on the right asking for pallets go another mile. theirs a pub on the right on a cross road. thats where the edwards lorries turn in.
if your traveling north go past Hinstock and up the 2 lane stretch of road(one lane going south). over the top of the hill
past the vintage car restorers then Lazy days motorhomes on the right, you’ll then turn in the next left turn you’ll
see the pub on the left. hope this helps.
John
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
commonrail:
mazzer:
commonrail:
it`s no excuse
I see your logo is that of a triumph bike take it you have never taken her over the national speed limit, sure you would be pretty annoyed if every time you did Miss Marple rang the police. Not having a dig just putting it from another perspective
yes I have,but we`re talking about suicidal overtakes here.
You wouldn’t have them if your doing well above 40 but below 50, well not the trucks any way, I’ve had plod creep up behind whilst doing 47 on a S/C and nothing was done about it.
Doing 40 or less is dangerous not only for you, but for other road users, I’m not condoning you wanting to do limit, but coming on here and moaning about it won’t get you any sympathy.
You can’t get done for keeping up with the flow of traffic, If some numpty wants to go flat out, I will follow him flat out, on me own I will do between 45 and 48.
Obviously there are some forces stricter than others!
I’m sorry officer I was just keeping up with the flow of traffic I’m sure that will work in a court of law
The limit is the limit go over it at your own risk
Sorry? Who is gonna pull you when your keeping up with 2 other trucks? A copper would only be able to pull the lead vehicle!!!
But a mobile camera van will get all three of you
People can argue the toss all day long but a truck going along any single carigway a road at 40 mph is within the law a truck doing over 40 mph is not
If you want to break it and drive like an ■■■ all well and good but don’t moan at people who are doing nothing wrong
I beleave this forum is titled profesional drivers forum so why can’t people act profesional
Not entirely correct.
If the scamera van is there to catch cars, and has the equipment set to do that I.e. 60 plus…then it will not catch hgv’s doing 50…the equipment cannot handle 2 speeds.
Of course if the road limit is 40 then it will be set to that and catch anything doing more than 46.
DonutUK:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
commonrail:
mazzer:
commonrail:
it`s no excuse
I see your logo is that of a triumph bike take it you have never taken her over the national speed limit, sure you would be pretty annoyed if every time you did Miss Marple rang the police. Not having a dig just putting it from another perspective
yes I have,but we`re talking about suicidal overtakes here.
You wouldn’t have them if your doing well above 40 but below 50, well not the trucks any way, I’ve had plod creep up behind whilst doing 47 on a S/C and nothing was done about it.
Doing 40 or less is dangerous not only for you, but for other road users, I’m not condoning you wanting to do limit, but coming on here and moaning about it won’t get you any sympathy.
You can’t get done for keeping up with the flow of traffic, If some numpty wants to go flat out, I will follow him flat out, on me own I will do between 45 and 48.
Obviously there are some forces stricter than others!
I’m sorry officer I was just keeping up with the flow of traffic I’m sure that will work in a court of law
The limit is the limit go over it at your own risk
Sorry? Who is gonna pull you when your keeping up with 2 other trucks? A copper would only be able to pull the lead vehicle!!!
But a mobile camera van will get all three of you
People can argue the toss all day long but a truck going along any single carigway a road at 40 mph is within the law a truck doing over 40 mph is not
If you want to break it and drive like an ■■■ all well and good but don’t moan at people who are doing nothing wrong
I beleave this forum is titled profesional drivers forum so why can’t people act profesional
Not entirely correct.
If the scamera van is there to catch cars, and has the equipment set to do that I.e. 60 plus…then it will not catch hgv’s doing 50…the equipment cannot handle 2 speeds.
Of course if the road limit is 40 then it will be set to that and catch anything doing more than 46.
You’re guilty of speeding as soon as you travel more than 1 mph the speed limit. Because we’re only human the police usually allow us a margin of error. However this margin of error is up to individual constabularies and officers and not the law.
All motoring offences fall under criminal law and a conviction will appear on all future CRB checks for 5 years. This also means you will need to declare all your “motoring convictions” if asked for any “criminal convictions” when applying for a job…
Dave the Renegade:
DonutUK:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
commonrail:
mazzer:
commonrail:
it`s no excuse
I see your logo is that of a triumph bike take it you have never taken her over the national speed limit, sure you would be pretty annoyed if every time you did Miss Marple rang the police. Not having a dig just putting it from another perspective
yes I have,but we`re talking about suicidal overtakes here.
You wouldn’t have them if your doing well above 40 but below 50, well not the trucks any way, I’ve had plod creep up behind whilst doing 47 on a S/C and nothing was done about it.
Doing 40 or less is dangerous not only for you, but for other road users, I’m not condoning you wanting to do limit, but coming on here and moaning about it won’t get you any sympathy.
You can’t get done for keeping up with the flow of traffic, If some numpty wants to go flat out, I will follow him flat out, on me own I will do between 45 and 48.
Obviously there are some forces stricter than others!
I’m sorry officer I was just keeping up with the flow of traffic I’m sure that will work in a court of law
The limit is the limit go over it at your own risk
Sorry? Who is gonna pull you when your keeping up with 2 other trucks? A copper would only be able to pull the lead vehicle!!!
But a mobile camera van will get all three of you
People can argue the toss all day long but a truck going along any single carigway a road at 40 mph is within the law a truck doing over 40 mph is not
If you want to break it and drive like an ■■■ all well and good but don’t moan at people who are doing nothing wrong
I beleave this forum is titled profesional drivers forum so why can’t people act profesional
Not entirely correct.
If the scamera van is there to catch cars, and has the equipment set to do that I.e. 60 plus…then it will not catch hgv’s doing 50…the equipment cannot handle 2 speeds.
Of course if the road limit is 40 then it will be set to that and catch anything doing more than 46.
You’re guilty of speeding as soon as you travel more than 1 mph the speed limit. Because we’re only human the police usually allow us a margin of error. However this margin of error is up to individual constabularies and officers and not the law.
All motoring offences fall under criminal law and a conviction will appear on all future CRB checks for 5 years. This also means you will need to declare all your “motoring convictions” if asked for any “criminal convictions” when applying for a job…
Again, yet more utter ■■■■■■■■.
Fixed penalty notices, unless issued by a court, do not have to be declared nor will they appear on a CRB check
DonutUK:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
commonrail:
mazzer:
commonrail:
it`s no excuse
I see your logo is that of a triumph bike take it you have never taken her over the national speed limit, sure you would be pretty annoyed if every time you did Miss Marple rang the police. Not having a dig just putting it from another perspective
yes I have,but we`re talking about suicidal overtakes here.
You wouldn’t have them if your doing well above 40 but below 50, well not the trucks any way, I’ve had plod creep up behind whilst doing 47 on a S/C and nothing was done about it.
Doing 40 or less is dangerous not only for you, but for other road users, I’m not condoning you wanting to do limit, but coming on here and moaning about it won’t get you any sympathy.
You can’t get done for keeping up with the flow of traffic, If some numpty wants to go flat out, I will follow him flat out, on me own I will do between 45 and 48.
Obviously there are some forces stricter than others!
I’m sorry officer I was just keeping up with the flow of traffic I’m sure that will work in a court of law
The limit is the limit go over it at your own risk
Sorry? Who is gonna pull you when your keeping up with 2 other trucks? A copper would only be able to pull the lead vehicle!!!
But a mobile camera van will get all three of you
People can argue the toss all day long but a truck going along any single carigway a road at 40 mph is within the law a truck doing over 40 mph is not
If you want to break it and drive like an ■■■ all well and good but don’t moan at people who are doing nothing wrong
I beleave this forum is titled profesional drivers forum so why can’t people act profesional
Not entirely correct.
If the scamera van is there to catch cars, and has the equipment set to do that I.e. 60 plus…then it will not catch hgv’s doing 50…the equipment cannot handle 2 speeds.
Of course if the road limit is 40 then it will be set to that and catch anything doing more than 46.
Yet more utter ■■■■■■■■ (to coin your own phrase). The “equipment” in a scamera van consists of a human being operating a camera with a laser sighting device which can very accurately measure the speed of any approaching vehicle. It is nothing like a fixed speed camera (which has to have trigger speeds programmed into it).
In action, the operator assesses the speed of an approaching vehicle and, if he thinks it may be speeding (bearing in mind the type of vehicle and road) he uses the laser to measure the speed. If it’s over the limit for that class of vehicle, he squeezes the trigger to take a photo.
Roymondo:
In action, the operator assesses the speed of an approaching vehicle and, if he thinks it may be speeding
And in practice they just hold the gun on anything approaching 
Had the pleasure of being routed down A41 with 12.5ft wide loads at night,And I will say it was hell.Two loads a night flashing beacons front and back side marker lights and markers on load and still overtaken in dangerous places,when I could I would pull into laybys but not always possible with lorrys on nights out.As for time difference there was only 10 minutes in going M6-M56 at legal speeds or driving flat out up A41.And to anyone who thinks you wont get speeding fine up there I got one for doing 49MPH.
Hiya theirs no van. go back a few posts i,ve posted the photo of the lines. theirs no human action.
the device is automatic. the man in the car is just carriyng the device. anyhow when you get nicked
and don’t remember seeing a van or camera you can say 3300john was right.
Roymondo:
DonutUK:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
monarch of the highway:
weeto:
commonrail:
mazzer:
commonrail:
it`s no excuse
I see your logo is that of a triumph bike take it you have never taken her over the national speed limit, sure you would be pretty annoyed if every time you did Miss Marple rang the police. Not having a dig just putting it from another perspective
yes I have,but we`re talking about suicidal overtakes here.
You wouldn’t have them if your doing well above 40 but below 50, well not the trucks any way, I’ve had plod creep up behind whilst doing 47 on a S/C and nothing was done about it.
Doing 40 or less is dangerous not only for you, but for other road users, I’m not condoning you wanting to do limit, but coming on here and moaning about it won’t get you any sympathy.
You can’t get done for keeping up with the flow of traffic, If some numpty wants to go flat out, I will follow him flat out, on me own I will do between 45 and 48.
Obviously there are some forces stricter than others!
I’m sorry officer I was just keeping up with the flow of traffic I’m sure that will work in a court of law
The limit is the limit go over it at your own risk
Sorry? Who is gonna pull you when your keeping up with 2 other trucks? A copper would only be able to pull the lead vehicle!!!
But a mobile camera van will get all three of you
People can argue the toss all day long but a truck going along any single carigway a road at 40 mph is within the law a truck doing over 40 mph is not
If you want to break it and drive like an ■■■ all well and good but don’t moan at people who are doing nothing wrong
I beleave this forum is titled profesional drivers forum so why can’t people act profesional
Not entirely correct.
If the scamera van is there to catch cars, and has the equipment set to do that I.e. 60 plus…then it will not catch hgv’s doing 50…the equipment cannot handle 2 speeds.
Of course if the road limit is 40 then it will be set to that and catch anything doing more than 46.
Yet more utter ■■■■■■■■ (to coin your own phrase). The “equipment” in a scamera van consists of a human being operating a camera with a laser sighting device which can very accurately measure the speed of any approaching vehicle. It is nothing like a fixed speed camera (which has to have trigger speeds programmed into it).
In action, the operator assesses the speed of an approaching vehicle and, if he thinks it may be speeding (bearing in mind the type of vehicle and road) he uses the laser to measure the speed. If it’s over the limit for that class of vehicle, he squeezes the trigger to take a photo.
Only if being operated in manual mode…which most are not.
Most are left in auto mode which simply grabs every vehicle over a preset speed.
Which is why you can never get them to disclose a ‘full session’ video when you attempt to see the evidence against you…because auto mode is not legally admissible as evidence…they will only disclose the short clip of your car!
Even in “Auto” mode, the operator can still hit the trigger if he sees a truck (or indeed any other vehicle) approaching at what looks like a higher speed than it should be doing.
But if, as you claim, the Scamera vans can’t pick out the trucks from all the other traffic doing 40-50 mph on a single carriageway, how do you account for the truck drivers who have been nicked at 45-50 by just such a van on e.g. the A5 around Oswestry?
Really , have you tried another gear at all ?. I’ve never had one that wouldn’t “sit well” at any speed 
Always On Time In a Six Pot Inline
