A religion question for Robroy,but will he give me a straigh

Zac_A:

Winseer:
Some thoughts for you all to chew on.

There was a time when “Evil” …

Aaaaaaaaannnnd I’ll stop right there I think. So what are you on today? 'Shrooms? Acid? Or just a good old-fashined spliff?

Naw. Just transmitting on a different waveband that’s all.
I’m surprised you can pick up my proverbial Radio 4 on Windows-blasing Radio 1 in any case…

Zac_A:

Sploom:
One of your relatives,by your own admission,Zac_A…

My relative? :laughing:

Yours too, regardless of what your BBOFT might mislead you to believe, but I have the advantage that I don’t need to believe I’m “God’s special creature” in order to make sense of life, I’m quite OK with being distantly-related to a fish with legs, at least they were actually real, unlike your purported ancestor, who was allegedly “formed… of the dust of the ground”

A lot of people fall down on clinging hard-and-fast to some mis-notion from the very beginning that God has to be some kind of "Personal " God, who “Cares”…

There’s plenty of references in the bible regarding it to be for Humanity to approach God/Christ for redemption, with it simply not being thrust down one’s proberbial throat 99%+ of the time.
The percentage of “Road to Damascus” experiences - has to be <1% of total converts - surely?

“Formed of dust of the Earth” isn’t as silly a concept as one might think.
In Science - every element was created by Nuclear Fusion.
Take the fusion of two hydrogens: 1+1 = 2. 2 hydrogens become one helium.
To make the heavier elements - more and more energy has to be put in, to get less and less energy out.
As such, the wasteful explosion of a star known as “Supernovae” - create most of what we call the transition metal block, including the fancy valuable metals like Gold, Silver, Platinum etc.

Everything in the universe starts as compacted dust and will eventually return to that state over aeons.
The force that brings dust together into new heavily objects is Gravity, and I’ve already suggested that Gravity happens to be everywhere in the Universe (Omnipresent) is all-powerful (it can create or destroy anything - Omnipotent) but what of Omniscient?

If you can look anywhere you want - can you look everywhere you want at once as well?
Dunno. That’s another great mystery to be solved by the Thelogians.
Perhaps God can be distracted? The Devil - certainly can be…
Perhaps God can turn a blind eye? - The Devil often lets his own minions perform the occasional “Good Deed” don’t forget…

Are Israel God’s chosen people on Earth, and Earth God’s Chosen race of alien creatures throughout the known universe?
Dunno. Chalk that upto “Great Mysteries to be solved” as well.

Perhaps Christianity would get better press if the public got to see the advantages in plain sight of BEING a Christian, or even those other “believers” on a different contract: The other mainstream relgious faiths of this world that involve God…

It is Politics that has perverted Organized Religion rather than the reverse.
When was the last time anyone on here got “Done” for “not having any faith”…?
When was the last time you “Didn’t get a job - because of your lack of convictions”…?
When was the last time you DID get a job BECAUSE of your conviction, come to that?

Very true,Winseer.

Zac_A.
I havent looked at the links you sent me yet so I’ll get back to you once I’ve had a look

Sploom:
Imagine if I went round calling people a brood of vipers…

Truthfully, I don’t think I’d bat an eyelid at you using language like that, goes right along with stuff like the “■■■■■ of Babylon”, which I’m sure I’ve seen you talking about before

But, if you were to be calling us vipers, I’d like to be imagined as one of the Crotalinae, aka “pit vipers”, because they have this really cool ability to “see” in infrared, so they can hunt mammalian prey in total darkness.

You won’t be able to appreciate it, but venomous snakes, especially the Crotalinae, are a fascinating product of that thing you don’t believe in, Evolution. But I’m sure you’re happy with your non-scientific explanation of how a creature came to (i) be able to see in the dark and (ii) efficiently immobilise/kill it’s prey with a self-produced cocktail of 20 to 70 different biologically-active compounds.

Winseer:

Zac_A:

Winseer:
Some thoughts for you all to chew on.

There was a time when “Evil” …

Aaaaaaaaannnnd I’ll stop right there I think. So what are you on today? 'Shrooms? Acid? Or just a good old-fashined spliff?

Naw. Just transmitting on a different waveband that’s all.
I’m surprised you can pick up my proverbial Radio 4 on Windows-blasing Radio 1 in any case…

:laughing: Because you’re so much more educated and enlightened than the rest of us. This kind of narcissistic superiority complex is the common default position with you religionists

Is it a ■■■■ full moon tonight or what??
They’re BOTH out together and ganging up on us. :open_mouth:

youtu.be/LplPi2CxNHI?si=nAHvhAJ0lwUAK8sM

Zac_A:

Winseer:

Zac_A:

Winseer:
Some thoughts for you all to chew on.

There was a time when “Evil” …

Aaaaaaaaannnnd I’ll stop right there I think. So what are you on today? 'Shrooms? Acid? Or just a good old-fashined spliff?

Naw. Just transmitting on a different waveband that’s all.
I’m surprised you can pick up my proverbial Radio 4 on Windows-blasing Radio 1 in any case…

:laughing: Because you’re so much more educated and enlightened than the rest of us. This kind of narcissistic superiority complex is the common default position with you religionists

C’mon be fair, he is a bit ‘special’ . :smiley:

robroy:
C’mon be fair, he is a bit ‘special’ . :smiley:

You’ll get no argument from me on that score :laughing:

Winseer:
Coming back to the so-called “Problem of Evil” itself - if one is an atheist, and doesn’t believe in any form of “divine punishment” for one’s sins… You won’t know the difference between Good and Evil, just what the Law lets you get away with - and what it doesn’t.

You really are one of the most ridiculous people I’ve ever ‘met’ :smiley: Keep the laughs coming

Happy new year,switchlogic.

But I think Winseer is a clever man,there seems to ve a veil of mystery about him…

Sploom:
Happy new year,switchlogic.

But I think Winseer is a clever man,there seems to ve a veil of mystery about him…

To be fair you do have a history of being easily convinced by total nonsense :wink: Happy new year to you.

Sploom:
Happy new year,switchlogic.

But I think Winseer is a clever man,there seems to ve a veil of mystery about him…

Figuratively speaking, his lips move, noise comes out, but no sense or logic is emitted.

Did you know that “gullible” is not in the dictionary? Look it up for yourself and report back.

Zac_A:

Winseer:
Some thoughts for you all to chew on.

There was a time when “Evil” …

Aaaaaaaaannnnd I’ll stop right there I think. So what are you on today? 'Shrooms? Acid? Or just a good old-fashined spliff?

Whatever it is, he seems to have taken it all at once. :unamused:

Sploom:
Happy new year,switchlogic.

But I think Winseer is a clever man,there seems to ve a veil of mystery about him…

Ah… Well, if this is how you feel then you’re just the kind of discerning customer who might be interested in an exclusive, hush-hush, on the QT, property deal I can get you access to: I know someone who is selling land on the moon at a bargain price, £100 an acre, build what you want, mine what you want, no fees, taxes or governmental interference - guaranteed. Just drop me a PM and I’ll hook you up to my contact… :laughing:

Sploom:
there seems to ve a veil of mystery about him…

What is he on about now? Dunno it’s a mystery.

Fresh in from an archeological dig near the Dead Sea, photographic evidence from the missing Gospel of the Cretaceous - Hallelujah!

njl:

Sploom:
there seems to ve a veil of mystery about him…

What is he on about now? Dunno it’s a mystery.

Sploomy has identified the second coming of the Messiah, “Cast off the shoe, follow the Winseer!”

Zac_A:

Sploom:
Happy new year,switchlogic.

But I think Winseer is a clever man,there seems to ve a veil of mystery about him…

Ah… Well, if this is how you feel then you’re just the kind of discerning customer who might be interested in an exclusive, hush-hush, on the QT, property deal I can get you access to: I know someone who is selling land on the moon at a bargain price, £100 an acre, build what you want, mine what you want, no fees, taxes or governmental interference - guaranteed. Just drop me a PM and I’ll hook you up to my contact… :laughing:

As long as he doesn’t open a night club or pub up there for parties…it would not work, there wouldn’t be any atmosphere. :smiley:

Old uns are the best. :sunglasses: