A religion question for Robroy,but will he give me a straigh

[robroy]

Sploom:
Its not my claim.Its the reality which I have described and you have to counter argument against it except say I folliw a book of fairytales

The use of the word ‘‘reality’’ may be stretching it a bit.
A donkey that talked.
After saying that I used to love ‘‘Mr Ed’’ when I was a kid.

Two blokes walking down the street.
Fellow across road shouts ‘‘How ya doing donkey’’
His mate said ‘‘Why did he call you donkey’’
Bloke says with a stutter…‘‘Dunno, He aw, he aw, he aw, he always calls me that’’.

[sploom]

youtu.be/qeUTojGjhpw?feature=shared

After watching this video,it seems donkeys do have a natural inclination to talk and communcate with humans.

[zac_a]

Sploom:
https://youtu.be/qeUTojGjhpw?feature=shared

After watching this video,it seems donkeys do have a natural inclination to talk and communcate with humans.

Except you’ve missed the first few minutes where the donkey says to the peacocks: “Here, watch this lads, I’ll show you how retarded some humans are, I’m going to get this one to make himself look like a total bellend and he’ll show it to other humans thinking he’s cool, but not realising the rest of us are laughing at him, not with him.”

So the Bible and its talking donkey equates to reality for you does it? If so, you might enjoy this excerpt from an episode of a well known wildlife documentary series from my childhood, which regularly featured a wide range of talking animals, all every bit as genuine as your BBOFT
youtube.com/watch?v=3sojhiOeqSg

[sploom]

I asked you a question about thehuman brain which you cant answer because there is no answer

[franglais]

Zac_A:

Sploom:
https://youtu.be/qeUTojGjhpw?feature=shared

After watching this video,it seems donkeys do have a natural inclination to talk and communcate with humans.

Except you’ve missed the first few minutes where the donkey says to the peacocks: “Here, watch this lads, I’ll show you how retarded some humans are, I’m going to get this one to make himself look like a total bellend and he’ll show it to other humans thinking he’s cool, but not realising the rest of us are laughing at him, not with him.”

So the Bible and its talking donkey equates to reality for you does it? If so, you might enjoy this excerpt from an episode of a well known wildlife documentary series from my childhood, which regularly featured a wide range of talking animals, all every bit as genuine as your BBOFT
youtube.com/watch?v=3sojhiOeqSg

Not religious, but a vaguely relevant post:

Three racehorses were in a bar discussing their last outings.
First horse says "I was a race last week, out of breath and fourth from the front, when at the last furlong marker, I get a sharp pain in my ■■■■ and take off to get 2nd place.

“Strange” says second horse. “Only yesterday I was entered in a race, and summat similar happened. I was way back, and breathing hard, but one furlong out I get a sharp stabbing pain, get my wind back, and win by a nose”.

The third horse is about to speak when a greyhound walks across.
“Excuse me” he says, "I couldn`t help but overhear you conversation.

“Bloody hell” says the third horse, “A talking dog!”

[franglais]

Sploom:
I asked you a question about thehuman brain which you cant answer because there is no answer

Some of us look for answers, but accept we will never know everything.
Some of us seek certainty, and invent answers to fill a void.

[zac_a]

Sploom:
I asked you a question about thehuman brain which you cant answer because there is no answer

No, you didn’t ASK anything at all

1. You CLAIMED that science had nothing to offer in respect of explaining consciousness, I (once again) directed you towards the person most well known in this field, here’s his name again - Anil Seth, Professor of Cognitive and Computational Neuroscience at the University of Sussex.

2. You continue to repeat waffle about “a soul”, again CLAIMING without this fictitious thing we cannot be more than mindless meat-robots. I’ve evidenced that a wide variety of species on this planet display abilities incompatible with your “meat robot” viewpoint.

3. You repeatedly demonstrate that no matter what, or how much, rational discourse is placed before you, you reject it all, and automatically seek refuge in an old story book featuring: mythical Sky Pixies, talking animals, human and animal sacrifice, ■■■■■■, rampant misogyny, human parthenogenesis (which you call a “virgin-birth”), holy zombies… Which terrifyingly, you accept as “reality”

The list is endless, and even for its followers it is full of very obvious contradictions.

You yourself have shown you will steadfastly not entertain rational thought, and repeatedly make it very clear that you prefer to have the wool pulled over your eyes by a bunch of American, or Americanized, ecumenical con-men, banging on about a specially reworded version of that old BBOFT, which was only created a little over 20 years ago, and specifically aimed at the most retarded segment of the population of a country known to be educationally sub-normal in comparison to the rest of the developed world. It’s questionable how much independent thought someone in your position could possibly have, you’re continually referring and deferring to your “Elders” on everything - or so your words would lead us to believe.

Anyone who can accept a story about talking animals as “reality” is incapable of framing a scientific question, or of understanding a scientific answer, because there are no magical Sky-Pixies in science, so their entire rationale for life is absent.

[winseer]

You might want to check out some of the Ancient Egyptian myths and legends…

[zac_a]

Winseer:
You might want to check out some of the Ancient Egyptian myths and legends…

The clue is in the names - they’re also NOT TRUE

[the_maoster]

Ah yes ^^^ nothing quite says Merry Christmas like a little cherub firmly grasping her massive erection.

[sploom]

Zac_A.
My question was whether you thought the human brain could be represented in digital form.I dont think it can

[winseer]

Is a digital erection possible to be represented by a pair of candles?
Ask any LGBT friend you might have if they have ever used a candle for purposes other than “lighting it and making light”…

Is it possible to represent the human brain “digitally”…?

Well, if it is NOT - then we’ll never be able to invent teleportation - will we?

I mentioned earlier that it may be the case that Humanity never gets to leave this star system - because meat, flesh, blood, and bone - makes us incompatible with long-term space voyages… It’ll be like Robinson Crusoe being able to “swim to safety” rather than await an ocean-going vessel to pick him up…
Then again, “Robinson Crusoe” is just another story everyone knows, but few seem to learn anything from, other than being a handyman with limited resources…

“Solving Great Mysteries” is as much the task of the Physicist as it is the Theologian.

Nobody has a monopoly on the Truth.

The faithful don’t quite have enough evidence to not require “Faith” at all.
The faithless - will never have enough to prove anything, other than what others already told them.

“Science” is as much about understanding as it is about peer pressure belief…

If you discover something that the “Community” won’t accept - then guess who gets persecuted, ridiculed, ostracized, and even robbed and killed to stop the “Heresy” that I thought all scientist-atheists didn’t actually believe in as a concept, let alone a weapon of political war!

[sploom]

Winseer.
Lets focus on the brain!
If that can be represented in digital form,which,for an atheist,it should be possible,in theory.But here lies the problem.If the atheist thinks the brain can be represented in digital form,he has to admit that there is no freedom of choice and we are all biological robots.If he says the brain CANNOT be represented digitally,then that causes problems too because then the atheist has to admit that the brain has a supernatural quality,which it does,but this leads to more questions than answers

[star_down_under]

I’m annoyed with the Christians taking over the celebration of the birth of Father Christmas. There are 364 other days, why couldn’t they have picked one of those?

[sploom]

I fully agree.So many times,I worked right up to Christmas eve,then even Boxing day.It didnt feel like a break but if they made new years day Christmas day,you could make it a 3 or 4 day break.Wouldnt that be better for everyone…

[robroy]

[sploom]

Wrong again,Robroy.A true Christian doesnt kill or fight.
Matthew 5:38-48

Eye for Eye
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces

[zac_a]

Sploom:
Zac_A.
My question was whether you thought the human brain could be represented in digital form.I dont think it can

Please point me in the direction of where you said that? I certainly can’t see it in any of your posts.

Nor do I know for sure what you mean by representing the human brain (a physical object) in a digital form. The brain can be scanned and digitized into images which we can use to further our understanding of how it works, and diagnose diseases.

When you originally started off talking on this subject you spoke of the human “mind” which is a non-physical “thing”, by our current understanding and definitions, much in the same way that radiation or electricity are “non-physical”, though both can be studied by their effects.

I expect you may seize on that dichotomy as some form of evidence for what you choose to believe, but that would be incorrect. As was pointed out earlier, Religionists of all types look for certainty in a world where knowledge is constantly increasing, so they try to fit what they believe into an ever expanding world of knowledge which exceeds their limited viewpoints.

Those of a rational scientific inclination accept what we know now, but will adjust their perspective as more data is available. As an allegory, think of a telescope or microscope being focused and increased in magnification,

I don’t think someone of your perspective could ever be comfortable with the cutting edge of science where the amount of “unknowns” are constantly increasing, it has been defined as a “fear of freedom”, more prosaically, being “out of your comfort zone”.

Frontiers of any kind (including knowledge frontiers) are for those who revel in the adventure of the unknown, not for those who desperately need to feel they are “right” in their beliefs (their religion), and have these beliefs confirmed by a hierarchical structure (a church), and that their lives matter to some unseen Sky Pixie (their particular “God”, of which there are thousands to choose from).

[sploom]

I cant find where I said it,but its a reasonable question,I think.I just wondered if you thought so called artificial intelligence computers will one day become so advanced that they become conscious of themselves.Thats what the media would have us believe but I dont think it possible.
The brain in digital form.
I thought everything could be represented digitally.
A picture,photo,sound.now 3d objects.Whats wrong with the humam brain being represented in digital form

[sploom]

Basically,do you think its possible to understand fully how the brain works.Only in theory.
I dont think its possible.