Robroy.
You are theologically correct there.A Christian does .We are not of the world.
John 15:19 ►
If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
Sploom:
Robroy.
You are theologically correct there.A Christian does .We are not of the world.John 15:19 ►
If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
Oh ffs have a day off man.
Sploom:
Robroy.
You are theologically correct there.A Christian does .We are not of the world.John 15:19 ►
If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
■■? I have to admit that even I’m scratching my head over this…
robroy:
Winseer:
If you’re listening to Radio 1, you won’t understand any of the arguments being discussed on Radio 4.
Simple fact of life.“Wavelengths, dear boy…”
Nah…more like if you live on planet Earth, (us) you won’t understand any of the arguments coming from Planet Zogg. (you)
Simple fact of life.
We’re on different planets…
(dear boy)
Humans may not be able to get to ANY other planet… Ever considered that?
Maybe it simply isn’t possible for flesh and blood to travel long distances through space to anywhere beyond the moon - ever.
That doesn’t mean I’m a “Flat Earther”. It just means there’s been no interstellar or even inter-planetary manned travel devised as of yet.
“Manned Mars Mission” got shelved - because there was no way for astronauts to survive the months in space required based on current technology where aviation hasn’t changed since the move from turboprop to jet, and the brick wall that was the Challenger Disaster 1986…
What if we got told “A asteroid is 99.999% going to impact us, and destroy humanity in 50 years from now” rather than this bs rhetoric regarding “Man-Made Climate Change” which isn’t as capable of killing every last one of us as a 100km diameter object hitting us at 20miles/sec pretty much anytime…
Wot you gonna do about it IF you had the 50 year warning?
Brush up on Science, join the effort to “Get Mankind into Space”?
something to believe in rather than “nothing”. That’s all.
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And THAT post was an attempt to get me to refute my opinion on you■■? 
Right, ok.
robroy:
^^^^^^^^
And THAT post was an attempt to get me to refute my opinion on you■■?Right, ok.
There’s more to me than “Football, F—ing, and Ferraris” - that’s all.
To me “FFF” is how loudly I might play music…, and Yes - I can play one of these, complete with the tune in question as well. 
Winseer:
robroy:
^^^^^^^^
And THAT post was an attempt to get me to refute my opinion on you■■?
Right, ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-Ml_EN-wU
There’s more to me than “Football, F—ing, and Ferraris” - that’s all.
To me “FFF” is how loudly I might play music…, and Yes - I can play one of these, complete with the tune in question as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-Ml_EN-wU
Have I got this right?..Are you implying that what the rest of us on here see in you as a classic case of… ‘Boxoffrogs syndrome’ is in fact a mistake, and instead it is simply that you are on a higher intellectual plane than the rest of us on here?..a cut above? 
Self conceit is not an attractive trait mate…and usually is a mask for insecurity, where an illusion of grandeur is the true and actual.state of mind in reality. 
As for the FFFs, my life has been like most working class blokes, a more of a FF lifestyle, …(never been in a Ferrari. ) and I’m more of a ‘BACHman Turner Overdrive’ type of guy than BACH.
That does not put me nor the rest of us a number of points under yourself in the social scale table me old mate.
You need to come down to earth bud… maybe literally in your case, you are just like the rest of us, …you drive a ■■■■ truck for a living.
Unless of course you have been pulling our plonkers all this time, and you ain’t a common agency driver at all, but ‘The Honourable Lord Winseer of Medway’ having a laugh at our expense, if so maybe you mix with the likes of Branson, and you actually ARE a part time Astronaut…
Nah…I’m personally sticking to the ‘Mad as a ■■■■ Hatter’ theory.
The only thing I hold against others - is not ever seeing sense, trapped in concrete thinking.
“Cannot be sold to” is pretty much the same thing as well.
I don’t get arguments as to “Why I’m wrong”. I just get refuted without any real evidence to contradict me.
Just as posting Gallileo won’t convince people that his arguments are correct (let alone mine!) others posting some vague pseudo-science reason rather than have their own solid argument to put into the forum discussion - isn’t any better - is it?
There is also a strong correlation between “Right” and “Believer” with “Left” and “Atheist” as well of course.
“Prove me wrong”, rather than lamblast me for having that particular view of the futility of Mankind as it seems on the ground.
I don’t live in any ivory tower, after all…
Do Atheists dream of one day becoming a champagne socialist?
Do Androids dream of electric Sheep?
Do Scientists dream of Electric Jesus?
robroy:
Winseer:
robroy:
^^^^^^^^
And THAT post was an attempt to get me to refute my opinion on you■■?
Right, ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-Ml_EN-wU
There’s more to me than “Football, F—ing, and Ferraris” - that’s all.
To me “FFF” is how loudly I might play music…, and Yes - I can play one of these, complete with the tune in question as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-Ml_EN-wUHave I got this right?..Are you implying that what the rest of us on here see in you as a classic case of… ‘Boxoffrogs syndrome’ is in fact a mistake, and instead it is simply that you are on a higher intellectual plane than the rest of us on here?..a cut above?
Self conceit is not an attractive trait mate…and usually is a mask for insecurity, where an illusion of grandeur is the true and actual.state of mind in reality.
I’m not interested in “Material gain” as such (I’ve no interest in football and ferraris) making me the opposite F to yourself, by the sounds of it…
I reckon I have more imagination in what to do with any future gained millions than most people, but then again - you don’t exactly hear many tales of the thousands of people that have won over a million on the lottery alone these past 3 decades eh?To me, “Big Money” is about power and influence, rather than luxuries and crash-weight gain from eating out all the time…
People do listen to others more - if the other happens to be absolutely loaded - do they not?A potential employer isn’t supposed to “discriminate” over a potential employees political views - but they do make no mistake.
Hence the answer “I don’t do politics” or "I’m a middle-of-the road, ‘none-of-the above’ " answer someone like me might give at a job interview, to prevent the damned lefties from torpedoing my application before I’ve even got my feet under the table…We’ve yet to hear tales yet of people being “let go” because they “support Israel over Gaza” - but mark my words - It’s incoming!
As for the FFFs, my life has been like most working class blokes, a more of a FF lifestyle, …(never been in a Ferrari.
That does not put me nor the rest of us a number of points under yourself in the social scale table me old mate.You need to come down to earth bud… maybe literally in your case, you are just like the rest of us, …you drive a [zb] truck for a living.
Unless of course you have been pulling our plonkers all this time, and you ain’t a common agency driver at all, but ‘The Honourable Lord Winseer of Medway’ having a laugh at our expense, if so maybe you mix with the likes of Branson, and you actually ARE a part time Astronaut…Nah…I’m personally sticking to the ‘Mad as a [zb] Hatter’ theory.
robroy:
Winseer:
robroy:
^^^^^^^^
And THAT post was an attempt to get me to refute my opinion on you■■?
Right, ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-Ml_EN-wU
There’s more to me than “Football, F—ing, and Ferraris” - that’s all.
To me “FFF” is how loudly I might play music…, and Yes - I can play one of these, complete with the tune in question as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-Ml_EN-wUHave I got this right?..Are you implying that what the rest of us on here see in you as a classic case of… ‘Boxoffrogs syndrome’ is in fact a mistake, and instead it is simply that you are on a higher intellectual plane than the rest of us on here?..a cut above?
Self conceit is not an attractive trait mate…and usually is a mask for insecurity, where an illusion of grandeur is the true and actual.state of mind in reality.
I’m not interested in “Material gain” as such (I’ve no interest in football and ferraris) making me the opposite F to yourself, by the sounds of it…
I reckon I have more imagination in what to do with any future gained millions than most people, but then again - you don’t exactly hear many tales of the thousands of people that have won over a million on the lottery alone these past 3 decades eh?To me, “Big Money” is about power and influence, rather than luxuries and crash-weight gain from eating out all the time…
People do listen to others more - if the other happens to be absolutely loaded - do they not?A potential employer isn’t supposed to “discriminate” over a potential employees political views - but they do make no mistake.
Hence the answer “I don’t do politics” or "I’m a middle-of-the road, ‘none-of-the above’ " answer someone like me might give at a job interview, to prevent the damned lefties from torpedoing my application before I’ve even got my feet under the table…We’ve yet to hear tales yet of people being “let go” because they “support Israel over Gaza” - but mark my words - It’s incoming!
Winseer:
robroy:
Winseer:
robroy:
^^^^^^^^
And THAT post was an attempt to get me to refute my opinion on you■■?
Right, ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-Ml_EN-wU
There’s more to me than “Football, F—ing, and Ferraris” - that’s all.
To me “FFF” is how loudly I might play music…, and Yes - I can play one of these, complete with the tune in question as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-Ml_EN-wUHave I got this right?..Are you implying that what the rest of us on here see in you as a classic case of… ‘Boxoffrogs syndrome’ is in fact a mistake, and instead it is simply that you are on a higher intellectual plane than the rest of us on here?..a cut above?
Self conceit is not an attractive trait mate…and usually is a mask for insecurity, where an illusion of grandeur is the true and actual.state of mind in reality.
I’m not interested in “Material gain” as such (I’ve no interest in football and ferraris) making me the opposite F to yourself, by the sounds of it…
I reckon I have more imagination in what to do with any future gained millions than most people, but then again - you don’t exactly hear many tales of the thousands of people that have won over a million on the lottery alone these past 3 decades eh?To me, “Big Money” is about power and influence, rather than luxuries and crash-weight gain from eating out all the time…
People do listen to others more - if the other happens to be absolutely loaded - do they not?A potential employer isn’t supposed to “discriminate” over a potential employees political views - but they do make no mistake.
Hence the answer “I don’t do politics” or "I’m a middle-of-the road, ‘none-of-the above’ " answer someone like me might give at a job interview, to prevent the damned lefties from torpedoing my application before I’ve even got my feet under the table…We’ve yet to hear tales yet of people being “let go” because they “support Israel over Gaza” - but mark my words - It’s incoming!
As for the FFFs, my life has been like most working class blokes, a more of a FF lifestyle, …(never been in a Ferrari.
That does not put me nor the rest of us a number of points under yourself in the social scale table me old mate.You need to come down to earth bud… maybe literally in your case, you are just like the rest of us, …you drive a [zb] truck for a living.
Unless of course you have been pulling our plonkers all this time, and you ain’t a common agency driver at all, but ‘The Honourable Lord Winseer of Medway’ having a laugh at our expense, if so maybe you mix with the likes of Branson, and you actually ARE a part time Astronaut…Nah…I’m personally sticking to the ‘Mad as a [zb] Hatter’ theory.
Sort the quotes out man ffs…
It looks like I have posted all that stuff.
Dont want people to think that I’m a bit …‘odd’.
robroy:
robroy:
Winseer:
robroy:
^^^^^^^^
And THAT post was an attempt to get me to refute my opinion on you■■?
Right, ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-Ml_EN-wU
There’s more to me than “Football, F—ing, and Ferraris” - that’s all.
To me “FFF” is how loudly I might play music…, and Yes - I can play one of these, complete with the tune in question as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-Ml_EN-wUHave I got this right?..Are you implying that what the rest of us on here see in you as a classic case of… ‘Boxoffrogs syndrome’ is in fact a mistake, and instead it is simply that you are on a higher intellectual plane than the rest of us on here?..a cut above?
Self conceit is not an attractive trait mate…and usually is a mask for insecurity, where an illusion of grandeur is the true and actual.state of mind in reality.
I’m not interested in “Material gain” as such (I’ve no interest in football and ferraris) making me the opposite F to yourself, by the sounds of it…
I reckon I have more imagination in what to do with any future gained millions than most people, but then again - you don’t exactly hear many tales of the thousands of people that have won over a million on the lottery alone these past 3 decades eh?To me, “Big Money” is about power and influence, rather than luxuries and crash-weight gain from eating out all the time…
People do listen to others more - if the other happens to be absolutely loaded - do they not?A potential employer isn’t supposed to “discriminate” over a potential employees political views - but they do make no mistake.
Hence the answer “I don’t do politics” or "I’m a middle-of-the road, ‘none-of-the above’ " answer someone like me might give at a job interview, to prevent the damned lefties from torpedoing my application before I’ve even got my feet under the table…We’ve yet to hear tales yet of people being “let go” because they “support Israel over Gaza” - but mark my words - It’s incoming!
As for the FFFs, my life has been like most working class blokes, a more of a FF lifestyle, …(never been in a Ferrari.
That does not put me nor the rest of us a number of points under yourself in the social scale table me old mate.You need to come down to earth bud… maybe literally in your case, you are just like the rest of us, …you drive a [zb] truck for a living.
Unless of course you have been pulling our plonkers all this time, and you ain’t a common agency driver at all, but ‘The Honourable Lord Winseer of Medway’ having a laugh at our expense, if so maybe you mix with the likes of Branson, and you actually ARE a part time Astronaut…Nah…I’m personally sticking to the ‘Mad as a [zb] Hatter’ theory.
Sort the quotes out man ffs…
It looks like I have posted all that stuff.
Dont want people to think that I’m a bit …‘odd’.
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Ooops! 
The quick-fix for getting the “Too many embedded quotes” is to delete a couple or three of 'em…
Formatting of the text is now all mixed up, as I can see above though.
There… “Got out the Red” and fixed it for ya! 
Once again I’m left thinking that our religio-triumverate are hoarding a whopping stash of illegal substances that the rest of us don’t have access to; I’ve seen people off their heads on mushrooms who make more sense than those three
Zac_A
I dont deny the natural world or the amazing things that animals can do ,all part of God’s wonderful creation but the Bible doesnt mention anything about whether animals have a soul or not so I can only guess at that one
Sploom:
the Bible doesnt mention anything about whether animals have a soul or not so I can only guess at that one
Oh ffs !, no.
This thread is getting more bizzare and surreal every day .
This guy both drives 44 tonnes on our roads amongst us, and is bringing up children.
All I can think of when I read infantile type crap like that,.and the fact he is actually being serious , is 2 songs.
Lucy in the sky with diamonds, and Ebenbezer Good.
Sploom:
I dont deny the natural world or the amazing things that animals can do ,all part of God’s wonderful creation
Some of us see the wonder of nature.
The size and scope of the Earth, Solar System, Milky Way, Universe.
The size of atoms and the sub-atomic particles and forces.
We look in wonder and try (however futilely) to see and understand the real world.
We don`t dismiss it all as being a magic trick done by a sky-pixie, with further explanation unnecessary.
Sploom:
Zac_A
I dont deny the natural world or the amazing things that animals can do ,all part of God’s wonderful creation but the Bible doesnt mention anything about whether animals have a soul or not so I can only guess at that one
Whackier and whackier… According to your Big Book Of Fairy Tales (BBOFT ) there are fish big enough to swallow a man whole and have him live in its stomach for three days and still survive (Jonah 1:17) But, I know you find that perfectly acceptable purely because it comes from your BBOFT (seems like the unthinking action of a robot to me)
You said (or intimated) that without one of these fictional “souls”, we humans would be basically robots, I’m just pointing out that (i) Souls are fairy tale fiction and (ii) in the absence of these fairy tale fictional items, living creatures (including humans, because we’re just a mostly hairless ape) have some astounding abilities.
Im surprised you didnt mention the donkey that was talking in the book of numbers.
again.
26 Then the angel of the Lord moved on ahead and stood in a narrow place where there was no room to turn, either to the right or to the left. 27 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord, it lay down under Balaam, and he was angry and beat it with his staff. 28 Then the Lord opened the donkey’s mouth, and it said to Balaam, “What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?”
29 Balaam answered the donkey, “You have made a fool of me! If only I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right
Sploom:
Im surprised you didnt mention the donkey that was talking in the book of numbers.
again.26 Then the angel of the Lord moved on ahead and stood in a narrow place where there was no room to turn, either to the right or to the left. 27 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord, it lay down under Balaam, and he was angry and beat it with his staff. 28 Then the Lord opened the donkey’s mouth, and it said to Balaam, “What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?”
29 Balaam answered the donkey, “You have made a fool of me! If only I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right
Highlighting donkey abusers doesn’t actually help your argument you know, it’s just more ammunition for me, don’t you think? Not that I need it, I already know your BBOFT is full of insane garbage, I don’t need to continually supply further examples, that’s just over-egging the pudding.
So how does the abused talking donkey story further your claim that without “a soul” we are nothing more than mindless meat robots?
Its not my claim.Its the reality which I have described and you have to counter argument against it except say I folliw a book of fairytales