I did get the pastor of my American church to pray for you and we did.This was the same pastor who literally dragged me out of the catholic church,what,12 years ago,I think,so I always have hope that God will work in your life too
It was a special moment meeting him again after all those years.
You said you havent been to America yet…
Washington is a place I would recomend,if you like museums,which are free…and the whitehouse and all that,if you like that sort of thing…
Sploom:
I did get the pastor of my American church to pray for you and we did.This was the same pastor who literally dragged me out of the catholic church,what,12 years ago,I think,so I always have hope that God will work in your life too
Yeah? A '‘Prayer for Rob’.eh?
.Ok but a bit like your kids, you need my permission to do that.
Maybe I should be flattered that you pay so much attention to a complete stranger like me, but it’s a case of …‘‘No thanks, dont waste yer time’’.
Sploom:
You said you havent been to America yet…
Washington is a place I would recomend,if you like museums,which are free…and the whitehouse and all that,if you like that sort of thing…
OMG ! (term used very loosely btw ) he’s inviting me over as a ‘friend’ now, I’m getting a bit nervous.
I was only joking about the thing in the pub mate.
Oh,Im sorry I didnt ask your permision.Next time,I will ask first.
We always pray for the conversion of souls
robroy:
Sploom:
You said you havent been to America yet…
Washington is a place I would recomend,if you like museums,which are free…and the whitehouse and all that,if you like that sort of thing…OMG ! (term used very loosely btw
) he’s inviting me over as a ‘friend’ now, I’m getting a bit nervous.
I was only joking about the thing in the pub mate.![]()
Oh well,you can choose your friends but you cant choose…cant remember the rest.
No,seriously,I just mentioned it because you probaly wouldnt think of Washington as a holiday destination but I was really impressed by the museums there,you can even touch a peice of the moon!
An American truck,me outside the whitehouse and lastly this is unfortunatley the plane that first dropped the nucleur bomb
Sploom:
Where will you spend eternity?
That kind of childish fear-mongering only works on the simple-minded. For most of us there is no God, no heaven, no hell, it’s all make believe. The point is, why can’t you accept that?
Sploom:
Those guys come across as being very hostile to me,so no matter what I say,they attack me personally even implying that I would cause harm to others.
There you go Rob, all you need to do to stop the delusional crusade is stop engaging with the madness.
You may think me “hostile”, but I can live with that as long as I don’t appear as arrogant as you do, thinking other people need to be “saved” by you
Zac_A:
Sploom:
Those guys come across as being very hostile to me,so no matter what I say,they attack me personally even implying that I would cause harm to others.There you go Rob, all you need to do to stop the delusional crusade is stop engaging with the madness.
You may think me “hostile”, but I can live with that as long as I don’t appear as arrogant as you do, thinking other people need to be “saved” by you
I dont save anyone.Only God can do that.
Sploom:
Zac_A:
Sploom:
Those guys come across as being very hostile to me,so no matter what I say,they attack me personally even implying that I would cause harm to others.There you go Rob, all you need to do to stop the delusional crusade is stop engaging with the madness.
You may think me “hostile”, but I can live with that as long as I don’t appear as arrogant as you do, thinking other people need to be “saved” by you
I dont save anyone.Only God can do that.
Yeah, but being that God is fictional, he isn’t on TN, and you’ve nominated yourself do a bit of “saving”. I’m fairly certain if I went through a few pages there would be a plethora of evidence that you do believe it is you who does the “saving”, but in the interests of finally ending this circular “debate”, I’m choosing not to do that.
Judging by the amount of your evasive answers, over-reliance on excerpts from your book of fairy stories, and then attempts to change the subject with your trips to Trumpworld, it clearly looks to me that Rob has found you out.
It is a well-recorded fact that families of Fundamentalist Christian Cults are prone to a high degree of dysfunctionality and break up.
With your inability to even discuss how many children you have, let alone show any pride in their achievements, it is blindingly obvious that they haven’t followed you into your make-believe land, and that is why you can’t bear to talk about them.
I suggest you read this Sploom:- Psychological Harms of Bible-Believing Christianity
It looks like an article you could written.
I suggest the person grew up in a Christian home but rejected it.But how can you be suicidal worrying about Hell?
If you believe Hell exists,you also believe Jesus provides a way out.If you dont,then how can you lose any sleep about it.?
Zac_A.
There is mountains of evidence in the Bible that it is God who saves.In no way do I have tge power to do that.Of course,I would if I could.If I seen someone drowning,would I not jump in the water to save their life,if I had the ability to do so?
Jeremiah 17:9-10 NLT
“The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is? But I, the LORD, search all hearts and examine secret motives. I give all people their due rewards, according to what their actions deserve.”
If this is the starting point,what chance is there for such a person to turn to God?
Or how could another person do it for them?
King James Bible
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
You see here Jesus is talking to ordinary people in the street.He isnt saying that they are good people.He is calling them evil.These are the difficult parts of the Bible to talk about but the word evil is there.We dont realise how wicked we are unless God opens our eyes to it.We compare ourselves to those and conclude that we are good.
Once again you have evaded answering - So I Repeat:
Judging by the amount of your evasive answers, over-reliance on excerpts from your book of fairy stories, and then attempts to change the subject with your trips to Trumpworld, it clearly looks to me that Rob has found you out.
It is a well-recorded fact that families of Fundamentalist Christian Cults are prone to a high degree of dysfunctionality and break up.
With your inability to even discuss how many children you have, let alone show any pride in their achievements, it is blindingly obvious that they haven’t followed you into your make-believe land, and that is why you can’t bear to talk about them.
OK,I have two children,one comes to church with me,one doesnt.How much information do you expect me to share with someone who thinks Im a terrorist.Im not asking you if you have children or not or any private questions.
Whatever they achieve in life is about them and the work they put in.I never use this word pride.Pride is one of the sins ,is it not