It’s all down to interpretation.
USA Baptist v Common Sense:-
Sploom:
I told the pastor himself I was having trouble with preaching to certain people,so he said some prayers at the front of the church to give me more power in my evangelism…
And you swallowed that BS ■■ - I remember that from when I was a child trapped in all that BS - it really is BS.
Wakey Wakey Sploom, don’t let these Snake Oil Salesmen ruin your life, your daughter has sussed them & I reckon your wife has too.
You don’t have to be a danger to society, you could do something good and fight back against these USA Baptist Terrorists trying to get a foothold in the UK.
If you don’t believe us Sploomy just Google Baptist Ponzi Schemes
I compare these radical fundaMENTALIST fanatical Christian nut job organisations, in the same boat as Nazis and Nazism in 30s Germany…not in a political sense btw., but in principle of their practices.
Usually normal rational and educated people actually psychologically indoctrinated into a common belief, until that belief is brainwashed into them, until it becomes the main priority in their lives over everything else.
Then comes the unquestionable and misguided loyalty and all the danger that comes with it.
Some of these guys had that BS fed to them from 5 years old, especially those in the ‘Hitler Jugend’ who mostly became members of the fanatical SS.
There was a deNazification programme ran by the Allies post war, it was a long process taking years with a lot of them, especially those that were left in the higher echelons of the SS, they were completely away with it in their own heads, some were never ‘‘cured’’ and still had alliegance to ‘‘Der Fuhrer’’ until they died.
Someone please explain what the difference is here exactly?
At least the ■■■■’s ‘Fuhrer’ was a real person,not some ficticious\fantasy being even if the madness was the same.
hutpik:
At least the ■■■■’s ‘Fuhrer’ was a real person,not some ficticious\fantasy being even if the madness was the same.
Good point,.and well made. 
Robroy.
The difference is,brainwashing doesnt work.I spent all my childhood being brainwashedby the catholic church,in school,then in the church on Sunday,in the home.I broke through the chains of this failed system which I detest.But God dragged me out of it.I never imagined I could ever call myself a non catholic but God had other plans.He opened my eyes to the truth.He opened the gates of hell for me just to have a little peek in to where I was heading.
He showed me the real path to salvation through Jesus Christ alone,not through anything I can do on my own .My testimony is very similar to a pastor,Tim Conway,I watch his videos online.I did meet him once,that was a great day because God had used him as a tool for me to be saved too.
And his wife Ruby has her testimony on youtube too
youtu.be/dZEX3Jsg1sY
The thing is,brainwashing does exist.You just proved that by what you said about the nazis but being born again as a Christian takes a matter of days.You know when it happens and you know there is no way you ever will go back to as you were.You know in your own heart,you cant go back because God is holding you in that state.You dont want to go back,this the new you and its a place of great joy.Not earthly pleasures but you know you are saved from the just consequences of your sins
Sploom:
Robroy.
The difference is,brainwashing doesnt work.I spent all my childhood being brainwashedby the catholic church,in school,then in the church on Sunday,in the home.I broke through the chains of this failed system which I detest.But God dragged me out of it.I never imagined I could ever call myself a non catholic but God had other plans.He opened my eyes to the truth.He opened the gates of hell for me just to have a little peek in to where I was heading.
He showed me the real path to salvation through Jesus Christ alone,not through anything I can do on my own .My testimony is very similar to a pastor,Tim Conway,I watch his videos online.I did meet him once,that was a great day because God had used him as a tool for me to be saved too.
You see mate I also went through the Church system, but it was a Protestant Church.
I too had to listen to stuff preached to me,.and delivered in a style as if it was actual fact, and the actual truth, and not what it actually is, …an unproven unsubstantiated theory,.a fiction based on superstition and the fear of death 
I just like you also had it all drummed into me from 5 years old to about 15.
Thing is the difference between you and me is I do not consider the process I went through at those times as me ‘‘being brainwashed’’, I see it more as the idea and concept ‘being put to me’, where I went on to draw my own conclusions and opinions about it all, around the age of 12 to 13, …But still went along with it for a couple more years as it was the wish of my parents.
Again unlike you, I am not susceptible to just believing everything I am told.as the undeniable truth,.and readily accepting it all as fact (a bit like your in cab cameras in fact )
You went on to jump out of the frying pan into a much hotter and dangerous fire,.and went on to believe and accept all the same b/s but under another denomination of the same religion…presumably because of an insecure nature,.where you NEED some sort of ‘emotional crutch’ in the form of a religious concept to lean on…where as I do not, I am well confident in my emotional security thank you.
I looked at it all and thought it all through, and came to the conclusion that it is what it is…total primitive illogical and unbelievable dog crap.
Those are the differences between you and me and our religious experiences, and how we dealt with them.
Sploom - You display all the signs of Religious Mania, I guess that is like a Heroin Addict believing that their addiction is right and good for them and others.
Religious Mania or delusion can be described as a false, unshakeable idea or belief, which is out of keeping with the patient’s educational, cultural, and social background; it is held with extraordinary conviction and subjective certainty.
The difference between delusion and faith is that delusion is held without any doubt, but religious belief is held with some doubts, or at least an understanding that others could have doubts.
Double Post
Sploom:
The thing is,brainwashing does exist.You just proved that by what you said about the nazis but being born again as a Christian takes a matter of days.You know when it happens and you know there is no way you ever will go back to as you were.You know in your own heart,you cant go back because God is holding you in that state.You dont want to go back,this the new you and its a place of great joy.Not earthly pleasures but you know you are saved from the just consequences of your sins
You see mate the way you explain things , your style, your chosen type of vocabulary interspersed with quotes from the Bible, is not the way of a ‘normal’ person in this day and age.
You tell us you are not brainwashed with all this crap,but your replies and the style of your replies tell a different story.
Tbf you do come across as a decent guy, a bit mad, but a decent guy.
I just think that you are grossly misled and very easily influenced by those around you who do not necessarily have your best interests at heart
Whether their motive is financial,.(as you have already said you contribute to your cult,) they the people who control you, only know that, but I consider your situation to be dangerous and abusive on whatever level.
Cut through the crap and open your eyes.
It is your family I feel sorry for, as they are all tied in with it because of your evident insecurities,.you have alteady revealed your daughter is rebelling against it all…you should be proud of her for her astute ness.
Sorry if home truths hurt mate, but that is a fair analysis based on how you come across on this forum.
Yes,ok,we have to agree to disagree then.You havent insulted me,that stands out as most other users of this forum have,so thats appreciated
Sploom:
Yes,ok,we have to agree to disagree then.You havent insulted me,that stands out as most other users of this forum have,so thats appreciated
I ain’t got any reason or intention to insult you mate,.it all depends how you take stuff.
As I say you sound a decent innofensive type guy , and I ain’t a bully, if you had come across as a bit of an arse,.I would have given you both barrels.
I notice this time you have not questioned, denied, nor refuted anything I have said about you,.I would like to think it had got you thinking,…but I very much doubt it.
Have a butchers at this Sploomy.
The gospel according to Ricky Gervais. 
A lot of stuff covered on this very thread.
youtu.be/A0WTamyFE8o
whisperingsmith:
Sploom:
I told the pastor himself I was having trouble with preaching to certain people,so he said some prayers at the front of the church to give me more power in my evangelism…And you swallowed that BS ■■ - I remember that from when I was a child trapped in all that BS - it really is BS.
Wakey Wakey Sploom, don’t let these Snake Oil Salesmen ruin your life, your daughter has sussed them & I reckon your wife has too.
You don’t have to be a danger to society, you could do something good and fight back against these USA Baptist Terrorists trying to get a foothold in the UK.
Evangelism is best left to one of the 144,000 these days.
I stopped going to Church once they’d clearly embraced “liberalism” over “Faith”. Even Solomon in the Bible made THAT mistake, despite all that former wisdom that he was initially famous for…
I failed to find, for example - any clergy who called the bluff on Covid, carrying on their regular sunday services as normal, risking (rightfully!) the wrath of the government in doing so.
FFS if these eco-borderline terrorists can get away with it - why wouldn’t a “Not My Lockdown!” Vicar gain anything bar decent publicity throughout the country, aiding the Christian cause in doing so?
Nope. Organized Religion, alas - is as still as much part of the Ruling Establishment as it ever was…
Note that in America, you don’t get to see much “TV Evangelism” backing key players these days - do you?
The Church “Staying out of politics” should have included them not getting involved with Tree Huggers, and other minority political interests - but no. 
So…Silence shhhhhh.
In my last post 2 or 3 posts…did I finally give Sploomy the ‘‘straight answer’’ he asked from me in his o/p?
Have I succeeded in finally getting him to shut up about all this cack?
Has he finally accepted I am a lost cause in all this type of stuff?
Has he finally admitted defeat?
Rational Athiests 1.
Religious Nut job fundamentalists 0.
Stay tuned.
No,but we will just end up going round in circles.You dont want to go to Heaven even if the proof was presented to you.You want total seperation from God and He will give you that eventually
You say you are self sufficient,but thats not the truth.Every good thing we have comes from God.
James 1:17 NIV
Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.
For some reason,Ive been guided by the Holy Spirit to go the extra mile with your situation.
Galatians 5:22-23
New International Version
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
These attributes are gifts that you lose when you are finally seperated from God.
Because of mans sinful nature,we dont have them from within ourselves.
Jeremiah 17:9
9 The human heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it