BigJon:
tbh id rather drive a 44 tonner than scub ZB’y toilets for a job
I clean my own at home,
I might as well get paid for it.
Besides.
You dont use your tongue
You wear gloves and a brush 
Thats probably why i,m still working now,
Just because i have a C+E doesnt mean
i am king of the road 
I will do any job
as long as the pay matches the responsibility
My reckoning is at very very best £515-70 and £105 n/o legaly unless he wants you to run bent , I admit if times are hard it would be a stopgap but that would be it but speaking to a few of my mates we can’t think of anyone around my neck of the woods who pay that low even the cowboys beat that 
Macka Packa:
as long as the pay matches the responsibility
You on £300 a day then?
My mate lays bricks for a living and is…you i presume drive 44 tonnes of heavy metal on the public highway, pretty responsible job id say…well worth 300 a day, but do you/we get it? nah course we don’t!!
Ragnarok:
The tragedy is that at that kind of rate, many people are actually better off not working and living off the state.
In some cases this may be true, but surely £5.73 an hour is better than £60 a week on the dole? If a job came up for £5.73 an hour (any job) I would take it. As for cleaning jobs at £6.50, they just dont exist here in the south west except during the summer months. Driving is what I’ve done most of my life and if the rate is £5.73, then thats what it is. My refusal (if offered) to take such a job would result in suspension of my jobseekers allowance. I’ve tried very hard to get a job within an 80 mile radius, maybe I need to travel further but as for being better off not working then it’s a big NO.
Tiger.
Playing Devil’s Advocate here for a minute, it doing exactly these sorts of jobs that I cut my teeth when I had a shiny new licence and was still under 25 in rural Dorset where “Equal Rights” meant that all the pigs got the same amount of feed.
I may not have made much money, but I sure as hell learnt a lot - the people concerned made a real effort to mentor me and help me learn my trade because in small setups like these you get a great atmosphere of “all being in it together”. I learnt more about driving and haulage in general in those first couple of years than I ever have since, and it is exactly that which has enabled me to later end up in one of the best jobs in the area where I now live.
Gumbo…Would you give a newbie a chance? Because if you would, then fair play to you - without these “bottom rung” jobs how else are they supposed to serve their “apprenticeship”?
Lucy:
Playing Devil’s Advocate here for a minute, it doing exactly these sorts of jobs that I cut my teeth when I had a shiny new licence and was still under 25 in rural Dorset where “Equal Rights” meant that all the pigs got the same amount of feed.I may not have made much money, but I sure as hell learnt a lot - the people concerned made a real effort to mentor me and help me learn my trade because in small setups like these you get a great atmosphere of “all being in it together”. I learnt more about driving and haulage in general in those first couple of years than I ever have since, and it is exactly that which has enabled me to later end up in one of the best jobs in the area where I now live.
Gumbo…Would you give a newbie a chance? Because if you would, then fair play to you - without these “bottom rung” jobs how else are they supposed to serve their “apprenticeship”?
It seems a shame that the sort of firms that Lucy learned with are now few and far as they did offer some sort of apprenticeship - these days it seems more likely that companies do not want to spend the time and effort in training someone but want an experienced driver who can do the job NOW
They always were few and far between ROG, it was just a matter of knowing where to knock about. I spent HOURS hanging about in the transport cafe at Poole docks harrassing people until someone gave up and pointed me in the direction of my first job. I spent several more DAYS hanging around the docks in Southampton to move into containers. I even went and visited haulage companies with a 4 week old baby under my arm when I was on Mat Leave in an attempt to get a better job for when I returned to work (2 weeks later). It didn’t work immediately, but they all sure as hell recognised me when I was back on the grid in my old motor, and it paid off at a later date.
The problem with many of the newbies today is that they aren’t prepared to put in the time to do this kind of stuff. I KNOW it still works like that, because you see those who have done it successfully or are in the process of doing it knocking about at places like Tilbury even today. You just have to consider finding a job when your green as grass to be a full time occupation in itself. 
Lucy:
I spent HOURS hanging about in the transport cafe at Poole docks harrassing people. I spent several more DAYS hanging around the docks in Southampton.
Fair play Lucy it maybe ok for a new driver to gain experience, we all been there and i agree learn a lot better in some small outfits than you do with a lot of bigger outfits. Well unless that small company is teaching you how to run bent lol
But then again a lot of these small companies are barely making a profit because of the competition and higher UK diesel prices.
But in reality your working for as you say one of the best payers in the north east, if your job went pear shaped tomorow would you be happy to go work for someone paying £5.73 an hour minimum wage ?
Whats worse that same person on here bragging about how much money he is earning. A lot of it sounds BS to me to be honest, its prob a couple of corgie trucks he has.
Do you really think you would be a valued employee or just an exploited worker.
If experienced drivers go out and work for minimum wage doing class 1 work they will get the industry they deserve and only have themselves to blame. If this is a true offer of work leave it to the newbies to trash his trucks for him and ramp up his insurance premiums.
I wouldnt drive a HGV for minimum wage rather drive a transit van for £6.50 p/h or as i said before deliver pizza for £6 p/h making £3-£4 an hour in tips.
Lucy:
in rural Dorset where “Equal Rights” meant that all the pigs got the same amount of feed.
I was going to mention the breeding habits of Portlanders but the above is equally true. All I can say is ‘bunnies’, Lucy will know what I’m talking about
Tiger.
Fastrantiger:
Lucy:
in rural Dorset where “Equal Rights” meant that all the pigs got the same amount of feed.I was going to mention the breeding habits of Portlanders but the above is equally true. All I can say is ‘bunnies’, Lucy will know what I’m talking about
Tiger.
Careful there, pilgrim… 
Kenny1975:
But in reality your working for as you say one of the best payers in the north east, if your job went pear shaped tomorow would you be happy to go work for someone paying £5.73 an hour minimum wage ?
Me personally? If that’s the best I could do, then yes. I don’t have as many options as my more healthy counterparts, so am far more limited to what I am able to take on job-wise. I also know we’ll be forced into living off disability benefits soon enough, and therefore will keep on working in one way or another for every second that I can, while I can.
In other words, I’m probably the wrong person to ask.
Super Smiley:
From Gumbo’s silly one line replies and Bart simpson pic…this is clearly a wind up…As for the actual topic been brought up… In desperate times people will do desperate things…when they can’t see whats at the end of the tunnel or how to get out of the cage…but this will only last as long as those desperate times last…then it’s later’s or dash some proper cash
When saying so…don’t those Reed Boardall people pay some silly rubbish wage
Super Smiley i am sorry if my posts are not long enough for you ,
I like to keep it short and sweet and to the point.
Like i posted previously why would i waste my time winding people up, and i also said the wages would get better once i had a better forecast.
Funny you should mention Reed Boardell i do abit for them
Lucy:
Playing Devil’s Advocate here for a minute, it doing exactly these sorts of jobs that I cut my teeth when I had a shiny new licence and was still under 25 in rural Dorset where “Equal Rights” meant that all the pigs got the same amount of feed.I may not have made much money, but I sure as hell learnt a lot - the people concerned made a real effort to mentor me and help me learn my trade because in small setups like these you get a great atmosphere of “all being in it together”. I learnt more about driving and haulage in general in those first couple of years than I ever have since, and it is exactly that which has enabled me to later end up in one of the best jobs in the area where I now live.
Gumbo…Would you give a newbie a chance? Because if you would, then fair play to you - without these “bottom rung” jobs how else are they supposed to serve their “apprenticeship”?
Lucy
Yes I would give a newbie a go as far as i am concerned they have past there test.
Fridges a good day should sort that out, as for the paper work every where is different so trail and error
Scannyfanny:
Gents the patter just gets better and better on this thread…no wonder yer potential employer gumbo is laughing his head off, I am too! It’s been good entertainment.However, if the work is OK (and fridge work often is), the truck and trailer both serviceable and the hours high enough to provide a better wage than it may initially sound, then someone will go for it. Worst case they start and don’t like it and chuck in the towel after a week, nothing lost. Gumbo may well have to up the rate if this happens too often, who knows.
I agree that £5.73 is a crap rate but if that’s what’s on offer and a driver wants to do it that’s their choice, it’s not anyone’s biz on here to slag them off. I personally would rather try it than watch Jeremy Kyle daily and attempt to negotiate that sad process of claiming the dole which is torture.
Also, with respect to an O licence and CPC, some of you are missing a trick in that he does not need to have either personally if he’s hooked up with someone who already has both (the very person he was looking for recently
Scannyfanny
Spot on
gumbo666:
Lucy:
Playing Devil’s Advocate here for a minute, it doing exactly these sorts of jobs that I cut my teeth when I had a shiny new licence and was still under 25 in rural Dorset where “Equal Rights” meant that all the pigs got the same amount of feed.I may not have made much money, but I sure as hell learnt a lot - the people concerned made a real effort to mentor me and help me learn my trade because in small setups like these you get a great atmosphere of “all being in it together”. I learnt more about driving and haulage in general in those first couple of years than I ever have since, and it is exactly that which has enabled me to later end up in one of the best jobs in the area where I now live.
Gumbo…Would you give a newbie a chance? Because if you would, then fair play to you - without these “bottom rung” jobs how else are they supposed to serve their “apprenticeship”?
Lucy
Yes I would give a newbie a go as far as i am concerned they have past there test.
Fridges a good day should sort that out, as for the paper work every where is different so trail and error
Can’t argue with that, then. Fair play to ya - you never know, you many just end up with what we used to call “subbie gold dust”, in which case I’m sure that you, like we did, will up the wages as time goes on to reflect that and keep a good man once he has the experience to be worth more. That’s what happened with me, and I ended up running 6 wagons for the man - still would be, in fact, if he hadn’t died suddenly.
Best of luck, Gumbo - from someone who’s BTDT with a small setup and understands how these things work.
Couldn`t give me a few tips about hanging round the Docks Lucy 
Redundant again 31st Dec 
GREAT SANKEY WARRINGTON CHES
Hours
37 PER WEEK BETWEEN MONDAY TO SUNDAY SHIFTS OVER 24 HOURS
Wage
£12.00-£16.00 PER HOUR
Work Pattern
Days , Evenings , Nights , Weekends
Employer
Toryen Recruitment
Pension
No details held
Duration
TEMPORARY ONLY
Description
This vacancy is being advertised on behalf of Toryen Recruitment who are operating as an employment business. Must have a Class 1 licence. There are various shifts available and this is for an immediate start. Duties include class 1 trunking. This is temporary, no duration is given.
How to apply
You can apply for this job by telephoning 01977 551888 and asking for Bianca Yorke Davies.
Thats a decent job
SuperSmiley:
From Gumbo’s silly one line replies and Bart simpson pic…this is clearly a wind up…As for the actual topic been brought up… In desperate times people will do desperate things…when they can’t see whats at the end of the tunnel or how to get out of the cage…but this will only last as long as those desperate times last…then it’s later’s or dash some proper cash
When saying so…don’t those Reed Boardall people pay some silly rubbish wage
Hows this SuperSmiley hope you like it better then Bart Simpson
