OllieNotts:
I don’t like this country and don’t wish to live here long term, only till I have enough saved to go back home and buy a house
I have sent money home to family as they struggle with what they earn
See, the recent analysys of the Polish migrations shows that although that was true, it’s no longer the case - the Poland is the only country in Europe which constantly had economical growth over the period of the crisis. Wages went up significantly, there is plenty of work if you want to work, there are big projects - like huge investments toward EURO 2012 etc.
it’s simply no longer economically viable to work here for your family back home, as the difference in wages is eaten by need to run two households - one here for the working parent, and other there for his family.
I haven’t met any Pole doing that for about two years, altough that was true in the past.
But in the past the situation was different: when I came here in 2006, I spoke poor English and the paint on my driving license was barely dry, I got work straight away, and agency (one only!) was phoning me every day offering a choice of variuous shifts and asking if I don’t have any friends wanting to work for them, nobody will tell me that I stole anybody’s job. There WAS genuine shortage of drivers obviously, at least in Glasgow. So the extra workers weren’t so problematic (in fact, I was wondering how on earth you managed before 2004 without all that Polish cleaners, plumbers, builders, drivers and waiters…)
So this is why I keep involved in all this discussions: your view on the situation is often outdated or wrong, you just stick to some old assumption and when situation changed, you still stick to it using it to attack migration. But just think: Britan has changed dramatically and the situation here in 2011 is for sure extremally different from situation here in 2007. If Britain changed so much, why do you assumed that Polish immigration hasn’t? Poland changed, Britain changed, so imigration changed as well. I am not trying to tell you what you should think about this subject, but I am just taking care that you have a right picture. Then you draw your own conclusions, and as far as I’ve been in these discussions on several occasions, it seems that we are actually thinking the same - if only we know the same facts.
Now, at the risk of sounding anti polish(I’m not as such) that is very different to any Brit I know has left this [zb] hole of a country for something BETTER.
So this is exactly the reason the Poles are coming here: sadly, Britiain is still BETTER than Poland on many fields (but as for workmarket and economical situation, it changes rapidly).
it is a very common theme that we move for one or more of the following reasons…
Too much crime
But Police and Legal System is much better in tackling it thatn their Polish counterparts.
Not enough work since influx of foreigners(not just poles) meaning life gets tougher
Believe or not, but Poland has the same problem - Chinese, Vietnamese, Ukrainian…
Uk weather is crap
But has some advantages. Many of my friends are happy that you don’t have to shovel 3 feets of snow off your car and driveway every day for two-three months in a year. I love winter, but I don’t like when it’s too hot, therefore British weather has some advantages for me as well…
Young generation of uk is out of control and the country is [zb] for the long term future
Well, I can say only one thing: they have only themselves to blame. Do you know that on last elections not a single of my British friends went to vote? And I thouht that it’s bad in Poland on that field…
They’re just a few reasons uk people leave, the difference is orys we want to leave for different reasons your lot want to come!
I hope you can now see, that the differences are in fact minor. The main difference is that we have different point of view, but the reasons are quite the same.
If we struggled to fill basic labour jobs I’d be more then happy to let people in to help but everywhere I go the foreigners are there and it gets the back up of the working class or at least the ones I know 
I have had many a stand off with non English people when I am in a customer situation because we can’t communicate it drives me mad 
See, the problem is that you invited us when you really needed a workforce, and now we are already there. Noone was expecting the credit crunch and Polish workers are now competing with a British ones. And although I don’t want to sound anti-British, it seems to me than on average the Poles has better attitude towards work - it’s propably because that we are used to hard times, even the youngest remember the hard times of the transformation (our situation in 90s was far worse than what you now experiencing in Britain) while your people are spoiled by the relative luxury they lived on for years.
Anyway I think you come across alright compared with the polish I’ve met, the Bulgarians are far worse then the poles in my opinion but polish get a hard stick cause they were the first to come in their thousands.
Thanks for the nice words, and I have to admit there are some Poles that I sometimes just keep my mouth shout as I don’t want to be recognized as a one of them. I think there are such people in every nation.
I do also understand why we are always on the fork, I try to explain the Polish point of view, but I think it’s valid for the most of the Eastern European countires.
I don’t have anything against you or the polish I nailed one I worked with once she was hot and couldn’t get enough 
but please don’t compare your reasons for coming here as the same for ours leaving…you pesky poles forced us out 
I tried to show that the reasons are much less different than you think. And AFAIK the British were emigrating to other countries much earlier than 2004, so please don’t put the whole blame on us 
*could you explain the word “pesky” to me? I can see that it’s not always offensive, but I don’t really get it’s second meaning (and I am optimistically assuming that you are not trying to insult me )
