8th May - Major Blockades

Ben9:
What was the point of Bozo and his 2 mates blocking Stobarts■■?

Clutching at straws springs to mind :laughing:

boze:
att: Its a shame youve had it tough with regards to the move but dishing out personal threats on a forum is a bit childish, no?

Please see here for European fuel prices as of Feb 2011:
drive-alive.co.uk/fuel_prices_europe.html

Youll see the averages are nowhere near what you are saying :slight_smile:

cheers

D

I spent most of Feb 2011 as I do most months in Europe and can tell you with all my heart and swear on any bible you want that chart is wrong more than putting cheese on chips.

If the “protesters” are aiming to cause major disruption in order to get the government to change policy, why are they doing it on a SUNDAY. Or is it that they dont want to get held up on the way to work on monday morning :unamused:

To cause maximum disruption just target a few strategic motorway junctions between 8 and 9 on monday morning…

bubsy06:

boze:
Aw busby, your inability to see that these people are fighting for YOU too is pretty sad. Are you really that selfish? I cant see any other reason for your negative, jaded views…

No not selfish, I just have a bit of common sense

Must be a first, a Welshman with common sense.

waddy640:

bubsy06:

boze:
Aw busby, your inability to see that these people are fighting for YOU too is pretty sad. Are you really that selfish? I cant see any other reason for your negative, jaded views…

No not selfish, I just have a bit of common sense

Must be a first, a Welshman with common sense.

I only use it when I have to :wink: :laughing:

ffs, will you get into the real world. this protest/blockade will be a joke :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:
the real world is that the price of everything including deisel/mortgage/food the frigging works are going to get a lot more expensive :grimacing: its a fact of life. oh and your wages will get less.

Ben9:

boze:
att: Its a shame youve had it tough with regards to the move but dishing out personal threats on a forum is a bit childish, no?

Please see here for European fuel prices as of Feb 2011:
drive-alive.co.uk/fuel_prices_europe.html

Youll see the averages are nowhere near what you are saying :slight_smile:

cheers

D

I spent most of Feb 2011 as I do most months in Europe and can tell you with all my heart and swear on any bible you want that chart is wrong more than putting cheese on chips.

Thankyou…These ignorant [zb] won`t listen, until someone who is seriously inconvenienced, does them some harm…I am just glad that I am a pacifist :laughing:
Just as well they will let emergency services have fuel, because these half-breeds may well need it :grimacing:

Sorry, but can’t see the protests working.

Fact is, all the money the government expects to get from fuel tax has virtually already been spent, they would have to get it from somewhere else and then people would be complaining about that as well. They can’t knock 20p+ off a litre over night with all the will in the world, its a pipe dream.

Fair enough, just buckle down then eh?

caledoniandream:
I laugh at these people who start waving with fuel prices in Europe.
Yes they are cheaper…but,
road tax in the UK is one of the cheapest in Europe.
For example, my Mondeo diesel cost in the UK GBP 165,- per year.
The same car cost in Holland on petrol Euro 612,- per year, or Euro 1240,- for a diesel per year.
Same car cost in Belgium Euro 458,96 per year
While in Holland the diesel much cheaper is as in the UK, Euro 1.27 against Euro 1.48 it still means that I have to use Euro 1093,98 worth of Diesel before I turn even.
with the current prices that would be 740lts or at 40MPG = 10.500km = 6514 miles.

Is the Diesel than still extremely expensive?

Fuel price tells only half a story, and a lot opportunist will walk in these protest open their mouth and let their belly rumble, but don’t have a clue how and what.

If you really want to do something what hit the governments……………………….stay at home with all your people and don’t fill up at all, that’s how you hit the people in charge, if enough people do this the price will come down to make it attractive to use your car, truck, bike etc.

Advantage would be that you are out the way of people who are willing to pay that price, because why would I need to suffer for your problem.

Protest is about democracy but to block my fuel supply off, and to stop me from living my life has nothing to do with DEMOCRACY, it’s actually the opposite.

I will fight everybody who stops my hard earned FREEDOM by stopping me to chose my way of transport, where I want to be, or to buy what I want.
Blockages are in line with communism, socialism and uber control, there has been some famous governments and Dictators been in the past who had this practice, I don’t think any well thinking person wants to be on the same level by restricting othe people in the way they CHOOSE to live.

So stay home and don’t buy any fuel, that is what you should do to force the government to come your way, not over the back of other people!!!
:smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

Blah Blah Blah, Schmoke and a pancake? :laughing: Done with beer goggles you understand :laughing:

toby1234abc:
I heard the Wombles are going to be there.

I’m not, I’m on shift that day!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I love the first paragraph from the first linked story :

TWO Flintshire businessmen are spearheading a mass protest that will bring the UK to a halt.

O rly. :laughing:

I will bet everything I have to my name right now that that doesn’t happen. In fact I’ll go so far to say that no-one will even notice this “mass protest”. Government will have the organisers rounded up long before under anti-t laws anyway.

same old story nothing will change !!! .

I love the Wombles,i think the Highway patrols,do an excellent job,and do not deserve to get slated by some knuckle draggers and some ignorant drivers out there,if they are so good at trucking,why is everyday,we here radio reports of loads falling off trailers,latest was a load of bottles,dont they check the load,and do not stop to check any load is restrained,by the amount of ratchet straps,you guys pick up,i dont think so.

I’m pleased when the price of fuel goes up. It means less people are gadding about causing congestion, so my own journeys are easier. Every time the fuel price has gone up in the past, I have increased my prices by more than enough to cover the fuel price increase, so my bottom line benefits from higher fuel prices. I still have more work offered to me than I can get done.

Put the price up some more, I say. If people can’t afford the fuel, they can use the bus or cycle. Or they could sacrifice something else like booze or ■■■■. Just a thought…

Big Jon’s dad:
Every time the fuel price has gone up in the past, I have increased my prices by more than enough to cover the fuel price increase, so my bottom line benefits from higher fuel prices. I still have more work offered to me than I can get done.

Put the price up some more, I say.

Sounds like double standards one rule for self employed and another rule for employed.So you would’nt complain then if everyone did the same by striking for higher wages to match the price and tax increases of fuel.That’s exactly what happened in the 1970’s and everyone then got branded as union militants causing high inflation,by going for higher wages,when in fact it was caused by exactly your idea of shopkeepers etc etc raising their prices by more than the rate of fuel increases. :imp: :unamused:

But if you’e right then the States would do exactly what you’re saying to make their economy ‘stronger’ and help pay off their national debt :open_mouth: :laughing: .They are’nt that stupid though because they know it’s economic suicide to increase inflation by taxing fuel at Brit/Euro rates.

I’ll be passing Stanlow on Sunday morning, on my way to get the big bird out of Manchester to Las Vegas for 2 weeks :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

I run a 1997 Land Rover Discovery on biodiesel, it loves it, its clean burning and its only 92p a litre :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Carryfast:

Big Jon’s dad:
Every time the fuel price has gone up in the past, I have increased my prices by more than enough to cover the fuel price increase, so my bottom line benefits from higher fuel prices. I still have more work offered to me than I can get done.

Put the price up some more, I say.

Sounds like double standards one rule for self employed and another rule for employed.So you would’nt complain then if everyone did the same by striking for higher wages to match the price and tax increases of fuel.That’s exactly what happened in the 1970’s and everyone then got branded as union militants causing high inflation,by going for higher wages,when in fact it was caused by exactly your idea of shopkeepers etc etc raising their prices by more than the rate of fuel increases. :imp: :unamused:

No Carryfast it is not the same. My customers have the option of using someone else to do the work I do for them. I don’t have any trouble filling my work diary so my customers must be willing to pay the price I choose to charge. I am not on strike, or forcing anyone to do anything they don’t want to do. I simply offer a superb service that customers can’t get elsewhere. I am in demand so I can charge accordingly. Supply and demand. Simples.

I also did not advocate that everyone else should copy me, I simply stated that I like fuel prices to rise for selfish reasons. What do I care if you don’t like it? :smiling_imp:

As for your comments I snipped about the USA’s debts, they were not relevant to my situation so I have deliberately ignored that part of your post. :stuck_out_tongue:

Big john dont brag about being able to put your rates up when the price of fuel goes up,your customer may easy find some one else,…I would

Big Jon’s dad:

Carryfast:

Big Jon’s dad:
Every time the fuel price has gone up in the past, I have increased my prices by more than enough to cover the fuel price increase, so my bottom line benefits from higher fuel prices. I still have more work offered to me than I can get done.

Put the price up some more, I say.

Sounds like double standards one rule for self employed and another rule for employed.So you would’nt complain then if everyone did the same by striking for higher wages to match the price and tax increases of fuel.That’s exactly what happened in the 1970’s and everyone then got branded as union militants causing high inflation,by going for higher wages,when in fact it was caused by exactly your idea of shopkeepers etc etc raising their prices by more than the rate of fuel increases. :imp: :unamused:

No Carryfast it is not the same. My customers have the option of using someone else to do the work I do for them. I don’t have any trouble filling my work diary so my customers must be willing to pay the price I choose to charge. I am not on strike

We’re seeing exactly the results of that type of thinking now which is why the country is in the zb.Except that unlike the 1970’s we’ve now got the worst of all worlds in which the shopkeepers and the government still think that they’ve got carte blanche to charge whatever they like for their services and taxes while wage levels are kept well below the (true) rate of inflation in the economy so the result is stagnation and recession.

But I’m not surprised that you don’t want to allow any comparisons with the cost of fuel in the US because they know that if Brit levels of fuel costs,and the resulting inflation they cause,were applied to the US economy the place would sink and take the global economy down with it. :smiling_imp: :unamused: :laughing: