ROG:
:idea:Easy way to find out if most DELIBERATELY go over the 40 limit - do a site poll
What ME risk having to eat my words ROG…NEVER!! 
It would be a FIX anyway.
There’s 2 reasons it’ll never change:
1- under ACPO guidelines you get 10% +2…so if it WAS put up to 50mph, everyman and his truck would be on the limiter…legalish 
(illegal)
2- If the majority of trucks are speeding anyway, why would they change it?!
At the mo’ the hauliers are getting from a2b…and when “they” decide to
clamp down a bit, it’s rich pickings for the camera partnerships. “they”
WIN both ways 
There’s 1 reason it could change:
1- if every and i mean every truck sat at 39mph on sing. carriageways…
…Tommorow, there would be total gridlock and within a month the law
would be changed…would it ever happen(39mph)…would it [zb]
there’ll always be someone who’ll speed, i’m afraid
sorry ■■■■■■ up !!!
Dazza:
mighty moth:
Well Dazza, if I had to guess who was the PROFESSIONAL driver, out of you or ROG, The answer wouldn’t begin with D.
There are truck drivers, and there are people who just drive trucks.
Two completely different thingsAnd I reckon you fall into the second category my friend. I myself am a professional driver, the difference between me and Rog is that I don’t go shouting it from the rooftops. Any HGV driver who never ever speeds is a rarity.
They are probably the same drivers who have never seen a ■■■■ mag.
You’re going to need a lot more than 16 posts under your belt if you want to take me on Moth. That is unless you’re really ROG under a different username!!
no no, i’m not Rog 
I would like to think that i am a pro driver, and i will stick to the speed limit
the majority of the time, however, hometime, running empty, friday evening
One more thing Dazza, I bow to your superior postage
Having worked in this industry for almost 20 years, I said that I personally found it hard to believe that all along I had been working with drivers as pure as the driven snow. In other works: [zb]
What you said was it was rare to find a HGV driver that does not speed
Greg do you honestly think that a member of the public reading these posts would be influenced either way.
No perhaps not but perhaps what you do is back up and support there dwindling good thoughts of truck drivers which in the present climate does not do anythig for the industry.
The Police widely accept that the majority of motorway users break the 70mph limit for cars, and many forces won’t prosecute until at least 85mph.
Is that so, Oh well if you believe that its your licence and livelihood. Being in the North West though you might want to have a re think on that one
if the speed limit was put to 50 mph people would want to do 60 .i say leave it as it is i go over 40 but the road must be clear and no tail gateing ect when doing over 40 one tends to be more on the ball.
breaking the speed limit is what causes holdups
or should i say people driving faster than others who catch you up
the problem we have is cars doing slower than the limit espcially in road works
keeping to 40 is like asking the bank to give you 40 quid and they keep handing over 39 or 45 not very professional
a good driver will have the skill acquired over many years to be able to drive
safley at the speed limit or slower if conditions dictate
if you cant do that get TRAINING
On particularly narrow single carriageway roads, such as sections of the A15 either side of Lincoln, and other busy SL roads of similar width, the limit should not be increased.
The effect of the truck’s aerodynamic bow-wave, turbulence, and “carriage-sway” on other vehicles of all sizes is strong, and can increase enough to cause accidents when running at higher speeds.
I was following a transit van, in my car, the other week. The oncoming truck was visibly running fast, perhaps on the limiter, on the narrow undulating section north of caenby corner. The bow-wave etc pushed the van onto 2 wheels briefly (presumably running without anything in the cargo area), and my steering was snatched quite badly and the body rocked right over on the suspension. It could have been so much worse.
Also (some time ago) seen the aftermath of an accident where two trucks’ trailers collided on that section. I learned later that the effect of their own carriage-sway on each other and the bit of a bend combined so they smacked the back ends together and each lost control. One jack-knifed and the trailer left the road, the other left the road completely. Very lucky each didn’t have anything immediately behind them at the time.
The ones selfish enough to speed to such an extent are usually the ones selfish enough and thick enough not to adapt their speed to the conditions of the road, or traffic, or accommodate other road users.
Trouble is if you raise the limits on the whole and cut the limit back on the roads that are narrow, even more would break the limit than already do.
FWIW, and rather hypocritically, I have no issue with drivers doing 3 or 4 mph over the limit on the clocks, since the effect is small, and with speedo error and tyre wear etc the chances are they’re doing a real-terms 40mph anyway. Personally, I don’t. My license is normally my livelihood and will be my means of funding my studies, so I won’t risk that.
Dazza:
Having worked in this industry for almost 20 years, I said that I personally found it hard to believe that all along I had been working with drivers as pure as the driven snow. In other works: [zb]
Perhaps it’s because many of those who systematically drive illegally aren’t quite intelligent enough to work a PC
limeyphil:
Do you regularly break the 40 mph single carriageway speed limit
Not anymore
Just interested if the 9 points have been gained since you passed your test last year 
Not a criticism yet
mighty moth:
I would like to think that i am a pro driver, and i will stick to the speed limit
the majority of the time, however, hometime, running empty, friday evening
And that’s the quickest way to ruin your weekend 
Andrew Leitch:
mighty moth:
I would like to think that i am a pro driver, and i will stick to the speed limit
the majority of the time, however, hometime, running empty, friday eveningAnd that’s the quickest way to ruin your weekend
Your damned if you do and your damned if you dont
Being new on here i suppose i was, rightly or wrongly, trying to fit in
Reality is, I have had nine points on my license and it really makes you think.
I know have a clean license.
I will now not only stick to 40 on the singles, i also stick to 50 on the duals.
If that upsets you sitting behind me at that speed, i’m sorry, but thats tough
I drive a 7.5t. I do try hard to stick to speed limits. A roads @ 50, DC @ 60 and MW @ 70. I drive an S reg 
I drive to what the road conditions dictate.
I’m not one for rules and regs.
I don’t stop for unmarked police cars.
I will fix my own truck so i get there quicker.
I will speed so i get there quicker.
Therefore i arrive sooner.
I get more sleep.
I’m safer than the perfection preachers.
limeyphil:
I drive to what the road conditions dictate.
I’m not one for rules and regs.
I don’t stop for unmarked police cars.
I will fix my own truck so i get there quicker.
I will speed so i get there quicker.
Therefore i arrive sooner.
I get more sleep.
I’m safer than the perfection preachers.
You will get stopped a max of 4 times for it, (probably by the unmarked car you won’t stop for, yeah right)
You will be unemployed.
Greg:
limeyphil:
I drive to what the road conditions dictate.
I’m not one for rules and regs.
I don’t stop for unmarked police cars.
I will fix my own truck so i get there quicker.
I will speed so i get there quicker.
Therefore i arrive sooner.
I get more sleep.
I’m safer than the perfection preachers.You will get stopped a max of 4 times for it, (probably by the unmarked car you won’t stop for, yeah right)
You will be unemployed.
I don’t stop for unmarked police cars because i don’t want to get mugged.
I phone 999 and check the reg first.
They can’t take a foreign licence off you.
limeyphil:
I don’t stop for unmarked police cars because i don’t want to get mugged.
I phone 999 and check the reg first.
They can’t take a foreign licence off you.
Quite right if your carrying valuble loads.
I know someone who had a small company, had a transit van for moving stock short distances. He was working late one Saturday night and customs and excise appeared at his small warehouse they wanted to dip his tank for red diesel. They dip his tank come back to him say they have found red diesel and demand £2000 right there and then. They show him proof of ID, customs and excise badges i assume, he was skeptical because he had owned the van since new and was the only person who drove it and knew he had never put red diesel in it.
He still wasnt happy so called the local police they wouldnt get involved wouldnt come out, don’t think there was anyone else to call at 11pm on a Sat night. In the end he refused to pay them anything and they left saying he would be in serious trouble, surprisingly they never came back and he never heard anything else about it.
My mate in the police said fake ID cards are supposedly quite widespread and i’d be warey of unmarked cars and the likes.
i want to know the longest stretch of A road there is without a round about , traffic lights, roadworks or speed limit other than the national one.
To see if there can be justification in raising the limit
hope this makes sense
hitch:
i want to know the longest stretch of A road there is without a round about , traffic lights, roadworks or speed limit other than the national one.To see if there can be justification in raising the limit
hope this makes sense
Do you mean a long single carriageway A road which is a national limit with the sort of hazards on it that would not be a safety problem if the LGV limit was raised to 50
I’m not so sure that the presence of roundabouts, traffic lights etc would be a reason not to raise the limit on such a road.