Perhaps some history into my driving past will help to understand where I am coming from
From the mid 70s to 1988 I was driving 7.5s and got the full 12 points for speeding - I went over the limit deliberately and did not bleat about getting caught - had to go to court and plead not to be banned
1988 I passed my, then, HGV class 1 artic test. From that point I decided that I would not be such a numpty and wanted to keep my licence clean. It took lots of self discipline and concentration to keep that promise to myself for the past 20 years even when I was doing 80,000 miles per year ( I know to some folks that is not a lot)
1997 did car advanced and 1998 did truck advanced and started to help others to pass the advanced test by becoming a volunteer ‘observer’ - that has helped to keep me focussed and further enhanced the ethos to which I drive - SAFE, LEGAL & CONVENIENT (as poss).
Maybe other drivers cannot or choose not do as I do for one reason or another - maybe they are intransigent in their beliefs - maybe I wrongly believe that others are capable of doing what I do - I don’t have the answers - really - NO, I DON’T
Maybe if others could explain exactly why they drive in the manner that they do then maybe answers might be found - why did I speed and get 12 points? - because I wanted to please my boss and my belief was that this was the best way of doing it at the time - it was only when reality dawned on me that I questioned my own beliefs.
We are all different and we have beliefs that we tend to stick to - it’s usually only when something occurs to make us question those beliefs do we then start to progress - the book ‘Mind Driving’ puts this across far better than I can ever do
Because you drive a hairdressers car and other vehicles
just knock you about!
3 Mobility scooters dont do 40 mph.
With Rog’s rant about driving his mate(s) to the pub, he just confirms everything I ever though about him. Rog, I sincerely bow to your greater knowledge & understanding of road safety issues than myself.
However, with the way you come across, you do yourself and your cause no good whatsoever when you start lecturing people in what is a reasonable and fair debate. This only encourages numpties like Greg to chip in with snide and deliberately misconstrued quotes, which put the whole debate way off topic.
Back on topic, there have been many studies looking into the issue of raising the limit to 50mph on some A-roads. Therefore, as the limit is still 40 we all know or we should all know that we are risking points on our license. Personal choice.
Please Rog or Greg don’t be tempted to trot out the line which goes……if a relative of yours were killed walking across a busy main road by a truck doing 45……blah blah…
Because you miss the point, and I will indeed spell it out for you.
IMHO There is too much empathice on speed. 40 mph on a good straight road can be dangerous because it forces cars to overtake at 60 mph. Back in the dark days before scameras hidden in horse boxes plod would hide in laybys and pull you for driving at inappropriate speeds depending on the road conditions.
Oh happy days.
With Rog’s rant about driving his mate(s) to the pub, he just confirms everything I ever though about him. Rog, I sincerely bow to your greater knowledge & understanding of road safety issues than myself.
Rant, what rant
I would imagine that most on this site know just as much as me about safety on the road
However, with the way you come across, you do yourself and your cause no good whatsoever when you start lecturing people in what is a reasonable and fair debate.
lecturing implies TELLING someone else what to do or telling them off in my book (but my english aint that good) and I don’t think I did that - did I
Is it only a reasonable and fair debate if it conforms to one persons point of view - there are many views on here and they are all valid.
Because you drive a hairdressers car and other vehicles
just knock you about!
3 Mobility scooters dont do 40 mph.
With Rog’s rant about driving his mate(s) to the pub, he just confirms everything I ever though about him. Rog, I sincerely bow to your greater knowledge & understanding of road safety issues than myself.
However, with the way you come across, you do yourself and your cause no good whatsoever when you start lecturing people in what is a reasonable and fair debate. This only encourages numpties like Greg to chip in with snide and deliberately misconstrued quotes, which put the whole debate way off topic.
Back on topic, there have been many studies looking into the issue of raising the limit to 50mph on some A-roads. Therefore, as the limit is still 40 we all know or we should all know that we are risking points on our license. Personal choice.
Please Rog or Greg don’t be tempted to trot out the line which goes……if a relative of yours were killed walking across a busy main road by a truck doing 45……blah blah…
Because you miss the point, and I will indeed spell it out for you.
HA HA i’m the numpty, from someone who likes to break the speed limit, and then admits to speeding on a public forum. I’m sure the true professionals in the industry are really proud of you bringing them down with your generalisations about how its rare for one of them not to speed…
Don’t worry DAZ i won’t come out with the blah blah blah line as you like to call it because to someone of your thinking it would not make a blind bit of difference, till it actually happens to you that is, then lets see your views.
Perhaps the speed limits do need to be changed. so does a lot of things in the world, however for now they are what they are so live with it, if you don’t like it perhaps you should choose a new vocation. you know what the penalties are so if you get caught, deal with it, bragging on a open forum tho, who’s the numpty DAZZA
Greg:
HA HA i’m the numpty, says the one who likes to break and read ■■■■, and then admits to speading on a public forum
Don’t worry DAZ i won’t come out with the blah blah blah line cos to be honest i wouldn’t really care.
Perhaps the speed limits do need to be changed. so does a lot of things in the world, however for now they are what they are so live with it and if you get caught deal with it, bragging on a open forum tho, who’s the numpty DAZZA
Are you just deliberately being awkward or do you really not get it? What exactly do you mean “Break & read ■■■■?”
I’ve just read and reread your post and I’m not sure what you are babbling on about.
If the speed limit is set at 40mph then that is what it is, irrespective of what time of day or type of road it is.
If you want to drive faster, well go ahead, drive as fast as you want to, but you must also be prepared to face the consequences.
Personnally speaking I do try to keep to 40mph as I find it threaputical (yes I am strange), you don’t have any traffic in front of you it’s just like the old days with no traffic about, try it on Monday you’ll see what I mean!!!
For the imbeciles out there who don’t understand the “■■■■ mag” quote:
There was a topic on trucknet about a month ago whereby drivers were talking about ■■■■ mags left in their cabs by other drivers.
The majority of users claimed to have never looked at a ■■■■ mag in their lives — shock horror.
Having worked in this industry for almost 20 years, I said that I personally found it hard to believe that all along I had been working with drivers as pure as the driven snow. In other works: [zb]
Greg do you honestly think that a member of the public reading these posts would be influenced either way. The Police widely accept that the majority of motorway users break the 70mph limit for cars, and many forces won’t prosecute until at least 85mph.
As the septics say……go figure.
P.S. I’m off to the pub now, don’t worry Rog, I’ve got a lift.
auto censor dodge removed, please read Lucy’s post HERE…Denis F
Kenny1975:
Depends on circumstances, firstly safety i wouldnt exceed the 40mph limit if it wasnt safe to do so.
Secondly depends on the road, the likes of the A9 i know little of the 40mph being enforced so generally safe. Likes of the A1 never really see trafpol but know some of the scameras are set for HGV’s so always make sure slow down for them. A75 heavilly policed so tend to sit at 50mph which they don’t seem to mind as much.
If i was driving on a single carriageway road down south in some area i didnt know wouldnt be speeding, wouldnt take the risk.
I think all single carriageways should be 50mph for HGV’s, just like NSL for cars is 60mph even though some roads it would be unsafe to do 60mph so people don’t.
Heard a trafpol said on the A75 that most of the truck crashes involved trucks sitting at 40mph on cruise control then when it gets twistier drifting off the road because its nearly 100miles long and people loose concentration.Which is surprising since most people would jump to the conclusion it would be Irish trucks doing 65mph.
I know people like Rog will say that should never happen but advanced drivers and even association of police drivers don’t recommend cruising for long distances at unrealistically low speeds, drivers need input.
Think with the likes of speed limits and other things, some of the legislators forget its humans driving cars not robots or computers. Yeah someone shouldnt loose concentration doing 40mph but being human we are prone to errors. [/quote]
Dazza:
For the imbeciles out there who don’t understand the “■■■■ mag” quote:
There was a topic on trucknet about a month ago whereby drivers were talking about ■■■■ mags left in their cabs by other drivers.
The majority of users claimed to have never looked at a ■■■■ mag in their lives — shock horror.
Having worked in this industry for almost 20 years, I said that I personally found it hard to believe that all along I had been working with drivers as pure as the driven snow. In other works: [zb]
Greg do you honestly think that a member of the public reading these posts would be influenced either way. The Police widely accept that the majority of motorway users break the 70mph limit for cars, and many forces won’t prosecute until at least 85mph.
As the septics say……go figure
Unfortunately a lot of em on here ARE Whiter than White,never doing ANYTHING wrong ever!!, it does’nt really reflect the MAJORITY of drivers though as I would say that more people exceed the 40 limit than stick to it. I bet most of em dont stick to the 70mph in their cars when they’re off home on a Friday night!!
Whenever you say anything a bit Risque(but true)you are condemed by the Highway Code preaching (so called) “Professional” Transport Priests!!,the thing is that these people dont really reflect what the majority of drivers think or do!!
Whenever you say anything a bit Risque(but true)you are condemed by the Highway Code preaching (so called) Professional Transport Priests!!,the thing is that these people dont really reflect what the majority of drivers think or do!!
Easy way to find out if most DELIBERATELY go over the 40 limit - do a site poll
