wELL SAID JOE G HE IS A COMPLETE IDIOT, WHEN HE IS NOT ON THE ROAD RIDING LIKE A PRICK HE WILL BE KNOCKING OLD LADIES OVER WHEN RIDING ON THE PAVEMENT…HE WANTS LOCKING UP
fuse:
wELL SAID JOE G HE IS A COMPLETE IDIOT, WHEN HE IS NOT ON THE ROAD RIDING LIKE A PRICK HE WILL BE KNOCKING OLD LADIES OVER WHEN RIDING ON THE PAVEMENT…HE WANTS LOCKING UP
kenno78:
maybe the cyclist has noticed the tanker
I believe he did, as he starts out in the correct lane but then realises that the tanker is coming straight so quickly rides over to the right …
Maybe this is what Magnatom really needs. A good proper fright to stop him going right for problems instead of using his brain. One of these days he’s going to shout something at the wrong person and he is going to get his ■■■■ well and truely kicked in. I only hope I’m there to see it so I can point and laugh at him. Of course, no one is perfect, and we all know that there are many idiots on the road. It is for that the very reason he shouldn’t be riding around thinking he’s got a protective bubble around him
49er:
kenno78:
maybe the cyclist has noticed the tankerI believe he did, as he starts out in the correct lane but then realises that the tanker is coming straight so quickly rides over to the right …
It says on the cycle forum that they made eye contact.
Now, how dunno, he doesnt seem to just look at the lorry itself when he would be close enough to see the drivers eyes.
If i was on my BMX i would have dabbed the back break got the back end out and easily powerslided round the back of his trailer 
In my opinion the tanker didnt see the cyclist or saw him and misjudged. (part his fault)
The Cyclist clearly saw the tanker but didnt allow for error ASSUMING tanker was going to stop thus putting himself in a lottery. If the cyclist wasnt to busy trying to keep momentum up through the roundabout he would have clocked the developing hazard and pulled up way before he did. (part his fault)
So i think there both to blame.
JoeG:
http://www.cyclechat.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55824
I like how he started the thread at 12:42 and it takes 22 mins before he is “just off the phone” to the police.
I know, lets get me ego massaged and then I’ll call the cops.
I was going to respond to his thread but only got to the bottom of the first page and didnt want to waste anymore of my life 
JoeG:
http://www.cyclechat.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55824Heres his write up and comments.
Its abit of a, well, cliquy forum, alot of people love magnatom and there are alot of idiot cyclist on there.
I was put on magnatoms ignore list for having a difference of opinion to what he had been doing.And i wound him up, a few time
I’ve seen video’s similar to magnatroms before, these people seem to go out of their way to find trouble, never thier fault of course, They have an agenda and want to be martyrs and they way he’s going he might soon be one. Of course to his disciples he can do no wrong in his mission to prove all drivers are useless and are out to kill cyclists.
If he goes to cops and he shows them the video, they will take the bike off him and give him a three wheeler, I think he has left a trail of accidents behind him. I think he can dispose of his crash hat because nothing will damage that skull now.
fuse:
If he goes to cops and he shows them the video, they will take the bike off him and give him a three wheeler, I think he has left a trail of accidents behind him. I think he can dispose of his crash hat because nothing will damage that skull now.
Fuse, get yourself on cyclechat and comment. Please.
Well it’s the tanker driver fault.
Firstly at a roundabout the traffic on the roundabout has priority over traffic entering the roundabout. The cyclist was on before the tanker so had the right of way, yet he carved him up like a piece of roast pork.
Even worse though IMO is ok fair enough having made the mistake of not seeing the cyclist The tanker driver makes no attempt to slow or avoid him. If he hit him he would have killed him. This makes me think he never saw him before or after entering the rbout or he just simply couldnt give a zb.
Secretelephant:
Well it’s the tanker driver fault.Firstly at a roundabout the traffic on the roundabout has priority over traffic entering the roundabout. The cyclist was on before the tanker so had the right of way, yet he carved him up like a piece of roast pork.
Even worse though IMO is ok fair enough having made the mistake of not seeing the cyclist The tanker driver makes no attempt to slow or avoid him. If he hit him he would have killed him. This makes me think he never saw him before or after entering the rbout or he just simply couldnt give a zb.
That, or maybe the tanker driver knew fine well who he was and saw an oppertunity to finally rid this city of him. Better luck next time, drive.
Tounge in cheek, you understand.
Fuse is just wound up because he doesn’t like firemen, even when they are cycling to work 
You were both guilty of not paying enough attention, I’d say 80% Tanker, 20% Cyclist, you have brakes too you know and many is the time a cyclist has deliberately made it difficult for me to pass and get out of their way, you can be your own worst enemies. If it were me (cyclist)I’d have jumped the kerb to make it to safety of the island. I would suggest the cyclist was in the wrong lane considering the exit he took. Probably just as well in this case as you would undoubtedly be a certified stiff. Pay more attention, both. Cannot absolve the tanker at all in this instance though.
Not trying to defend cyclists but in this instance the tanker driver was definately at fault.I’m the first to admit that I’m not a “perfect” driver,who is ?,but drivers of hazmat/dangerous goods have generally been through a defensive driving course so should be extra careful in residential areas,and even more so whilst negotiating a roundabout .Would like to hear the drivers side of the story,because he very nearly had a manslaughter/death by dangerous driving charge hanging over him.Shows just how easily ■■■■ happens !!
flat to the mat:
Not trying to defend cyclists but in this instance the tanker driver was definately at fault.I’m the first to admit that I’m not a “perfect” driver,who is ?,but drivers of hazmat/dangerous goods have generally been through a defensive driving course so should be extra careful in residential areas,and even more so whilst negotiating a roundabout .Would like to hear the drivers side of the story,because he very nearly had a manslaughter/death by dangerous driving charge hanging over him.Shows just how easily [zb] happens !!
The thing is the tanker driver used to be among the creme de la creme of drivers, not anymore though, the ones who run out of Stanford le Hope/Coryton are a bunch of hooligans, they make the 8 wheel tipper drivers look like ■■■■■■■
Secretelephant:
Well it’s the tanker driver fault.Firstly at a roundabout the traffic on the roundabout has priority over traffic entering the roundabout. The cyclist was on before the tanker so had the right of way, yet he carved him up like a piece of roast pork.
Even worse though IMO is ok fair enough having made the mistake of not seeing the cyclist The tanker driver makes no attempt to slow or avoid him. If he hit him he would have killed him. This makes me think he never saw him before or after entering the rbout or he just simply couldnt give a zb.
Sos gotta go with Mr elephant,The tanker driver would probably be eating porridge on a dangerous driving charge if the cyclist went underneath especially as it was videoed, yup the cyclists was going fast that isn’t an offence, 2. However you look at the vid the tanker reg cannot be read so he’s prob got off lucky like the royal mail guy in truck wars, maybe a sharp lucky shock will teach them both a lesson to be more aware of othe road users.
Being the sad t**t i am i always try and use the “safety bubble” concept one of the insurance assesors used when coming out to assess us , cover my arse at all times and never ever trust another roaduser to be sensible always expect the completely unexpected 
Just been looking at the comments on that cyclists forum,and one of them posted this.The tanker drivers view of that junction.Could it be possible that the road sign hid the cyclist from view?
maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=g64+4la … 00862&z=20
IMO they’re both at fault, I believe the Incident happened becaue the cyclist took the wrong line at the roundabout and because of this I’m guessing the tanker driver simply didn’t see him before it’s too late. That said the tanker driver obviously didn’t make enough observations before entering the roundabout in the path if a vehicle who has right of way.
Looking at it again I wonder if the cycle was in the mirror blindspot until it was too late for the tanker to stop. It looks like the angles of the approach would quite possibly have put the cyclist in the blindspot, and the driver may have been able to see there were no cars coming from his immediate right over the wall.
It looks like it was very nearly a terrible accident, but that is what it would have been. Throwing blame now is a total waste of time. I bet the cyclist will be careful on roundabouts now, and I bet the tanker driver will be, too.
Maybe, just maybe, there is one truck driver and one cyclist who have gained a little more understanding of the other side.