Would you take the truck back?

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It’s highly unlikely he won’t get his money owed, they cannot simply decide to not pay for work which has been carried out, as I understand it he’s not after the money for two hours he did before taking the truck back.

I can’t believe people would say not to claim, or take them to court, if your current boss didn’t pay you for a days work and you’d left his employ the following week/day there are people on here who wouldn’t take him to court for money owed? Christ :blush:

Luckily I don’t have to work on agency, but there’s no way I’d get treated the way some agency guys do. The people who run agencies are just as bad as estate agents, idiots in cheap suits who think they’re some big shot business men, parasites in my mind.

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eagerbeaver:
So many thanks for the link provided MTM12 :wink: A county court claim for a very reasonable £165 has now been submitted (£140 for the shift and £25 court fee).

I hope you get what’s owed to you mate.

MickM

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ClassOneHD:
I can’t believe people would say not to claim, or take them to court, if your current boss didn’t pay you for a days work and you’d left his employ the following week/day there are people on here who wouldn’t take him to court for money owed? Christ :blush:
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No?..Well I can believe it mate.
Absolutely NOTHING surprises me nowadays how far some drivers will bend over, or the things they do…just because they are ‘‘told to’’ :unamused: How much crap they will take before they feel the need to say ‘‘Hang on a minute this is not right or fair, I aint doing it’’
I’ve learned a lot more about drivers in the 10yrs I’ve been on here, some opinions astound me, but at least it explains why the job has turned to crap over the years. :unamused:

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Originally I thought he was claiming for the day that he turned back half way through the day, in which case my answer would have been no. Now I see they haven’t paid him for the previous full days work, so my answer would be yes.

I think more than one of us was confused by that ( not having waded through 11 pages!)

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robroy:

ClassOneHD:
I can’t believe people would say not to claim, or take them to court, if your current boss didn’t pay you for a days work and you’d left his employ the following week/day there are people on here who wouldn’t take him to court for money owed? Christ :blush:
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No?..Well I can believe it mate.
Absolutely NOTHING surprises me nowadays how far some drivers will bend over, or the things they do…just because they are ‘‘told to’’ :unamused: How much crap they will take before they feel the need to say ‘‘Hang on a minute this is not right or fair, I aint doing it’’
I’ve learned a lot more about drivers in the 10yrs I’ve been on here, some opinions astound me, but at least it explains why the job has turned to crap over the years. :unamused:

And all the old boys who are quite happy to do this are doing nothing but scuppering the industry for the younger guys. It’s good to see drivers are the same as warehouse workers, never sticking together for the benefit of everybody.

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robroy:

ClassOneHD:
I can’t believe people would say not to claim, or take them to court, if your current boss didn’t pay you for a days work and you’d left his employ the following week/day there are people on here who wouldn’t take him to court for money owed? Christ :blush:
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No?..Well I can believe it mate.
Absolutely NOTHING surprises me nowadays how far some drivers will bend over, or the things they do…just because they are ‘‘told to’’ :unamused: How much crap they will take before they feel the need to say ‘‘Hang on a minute this is not right or fair, I aint doing it’’
I’ve learned a lot more about drivers in the 10yrs I’ve been on here, some opinions astound me, but at least it explains why the job has turned to crap over the years. :unamused:

Yes, it is mind boggling the general attitude of the truck driving fraternity today who bring large jars of Vaseline to work every day.

I guess they are not truck drivers as we used to to know it no more than the kids in McDonalds are chefs although they feed half the country without the ability to boil an egg.

Both jobs are seriously dumbed down to accommodate their inabilities and their wages reflect this but which came first? The chicken or the egg??

If drivers were paid properly then there would be far more good guys doing it for proper pay and their employers would have them changing bulbs, sorting issues and generally getting the job done instead of giving their profits over to tyre companies, call out mechanics, damage repairs, damaged load claims and a bunch of other transport industry cling on’s.

The stable and experienced transport office bods would know their drivers well and manage them for the overall good of the company and send the unsuitable packing.

Instead we have agencies, assessments, cameras, tracking, paperwork out the ying yang, tacho analysis, drivers letters, transport commissioners etc and the result is a big fat FAIL.

Driving standards are way down despite much improved equipment and a bunch of others are making nice money for services that have only accelerated the deterioration of most standards in the industry.

Hauliers should stop wasting their money on all this surveillance and B.S. as we can now see the stick approach has failed as driverless trucks sit in the yard. The carrot of proper wages is the only way forward and then you can cull the idiots.

So Beaver, Rob and a few others that stand up to the tossers for your rights and retain your dignity, it does shock me too the attitude of the other sheep (lambs to the slaughter) around here. I don’t think you can win the war with this army but at least you will win your own battles.

There are some niche hauliers out there in heavy, pharma, own account who need a good man and are happy to pay him if he brings his brain to work and I hope you guys find such companies which might not always be the shiniest wagon either.

Sorry to go on but Beaver’s correct actions are a symptom of the industry’s failings and good luck to him.

Proper pay and self respect generate respect from others, the employers, the customers and the public.

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EB after giving the agency the initial letter requesting payment did you also give them another following letter marked “Letter before action” or “letter before court action” prior to instigating the small claim court proceedings?

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^^^ An excellent post mate (Hurryup&wait). Funnily enough I have started a job today that I have been looking at for a while. Problem is that you need someone to die or get sacked from this mob in order for a vacancy to arise. And you are bang on regarding the two way respect thing.

I was supposed to start for a liquid tanker company today and gain some specialist training, I have been trying to get out of truck driving for a while now but got tempted by this tanker company and got offered a job which I accepted.

But sod’s law prevails and the ’ other ’ job came up (another truck driving job :neutral_face: ) which is good pay & conditions, own account (no weekends or Bank Holidays and a true 48 hrs average + 22 days hols), so I grabbed it sharpish.

In an odd sort of way I feel that I deserve this job. The amount of sheer crap general haulage jobs out there are enough to put anyone off, I have tried supermarket work (Iceland) and parcel work (Whistl) too, all to no avail. But a clean licence and a good dose of pride and effort can help get you there. A bit of luck was involved spotting the job advert (it was taken off the site after 48 hrs), however the interview with the TM and the driving assessment was down to me, and we will see how it goes.

Juddian and other wise Jedi masters on here do maintain that there ARE good jobs out there still, and I know some of us ’ new breed ’ drivers are sceptical, however a decent attitude combined with some pride and intelligence WILL eventually reveal a decent opportunity! I suppose it’s just an extension of ’ earning your stripes ’ …

Oh, and the agency now are flapping :grimacing: One of the directors wants a ’ discussion ’ with me about the circumstances of the ’ Culina problem ’ :wink:

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peirre:
EB after giving the agency the initial letter requesting payment did you also give them another following letter marked “Letter before action” or “letter before court action” prior to instigating the small claim court proceedings?

No I didn’t P.

After firing the pistol, I ignored the rifle and went straight for the RPG :grimacing:

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eagerbeaver:
^^^ An excellent post mate (Hurryup&wait). Funnily enough I have started a job today that I have been looking at for a while. Problem is that you need someone to die or get sacked from this mob in order for a vacancy to arise. And you are bang on regarding the two way respect thing.

I was supposed to start for a liquid tanker company today and gain some specialist training, I have been trying to get out of truck driving for a while now but got tempted by this tanker company and got offered a job which I accepted.

But sod’s law prevails and the ’ other ’ job came up (another truck driving job :neutral_face: ) which is good pay & conditions, own account (no weekends or Bank Holidays and a true 48 hrs average + 22 days hols), so I grabbed it sharpish.

In an odd sort of way I feel that I deserve this job. The amount of sheer crap general haulage jobs out there are enough to put anyone off, I have tried supermarket work (Iceland) and parcel work (Whistl) too, all to no avail. But a clean licence and a good dose of pride and effort can help get you there. A bit of luck was involved spotting the job advert (it was taken off the site after 48 hrs), however the interview with the TM and the driving assessment was down to me, and we will see how it goes.

Juddian and other wise Jedi masters on here do maintain that there ARE good jobs out there still, and I know some of us ’ new breed ’ drivers are sceptical, however a decent attitude combined with some pride and intelligence WILL eventually reveal a decent opportunity! I suppose it’s just an extension of ’ earning your stripes ’ …

Oh, and the agency now are flapping :grimacing: One of the directors wants a ’ discussion ’ with me about the circumstances of the ’ Culina problem ’ :wink:

So am I reading that you were going to start one job but then dumped it for another job that came up at last minute. Or have I read it wrong? Perhaps I’m in some alternative universe

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Correct. Was going to start on tankers today, but I received an invitation for interview from an own account job which I had already applied for.

I got offered the position and phoned the tanker company and offered my apologies for turning them down. (This was last week).

Basically there was a huge fight for my services, which is not surprising given the abundance of talent that I contain within my handsome frame.

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P Stoff:
So am I reading that you were going to start one job but then dumped it for another job that came up at last minute. Or have I read it wrong? Perhaps I’m in some alternative universe

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P Stoff, you may well be a good man but your bias is letting you down in this topic.

I read it as two busses came along at once. One was training that hopefully would lead to something better and the other was the bus he was waiting for for a very long time cos takes him to his ideal destination.

Which bus would you get on■■?

Thank you Beaver and best of luck in the new one.

Sometimes I think it is better to call into known very good employers regularly and get to know them and vice versa so that when the vacancy eventually arises they don’t even need to advertise as they already have their man.

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Hurryup&wait:

P Stoff:
So am I reading that you were going to start one job but then dumped it for another job that came up at last minute. Or have I read it wrong? Perhaps I’m in some alternative universe

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P Stoff, you may well be a good man but your bias is letting you down in this topic.

I read it as two busses came along at once. One was training that hopefully would lead to something better and the other was the bus he was waiting for for a very long time cos takes him to his ideal destination.

Which bus would you get on■■?

Thank you Beaver and best of luck in the new one.

Sometimes I think it is better to call into known very good employers regularly and get to know them and vice versa so that when the vacancy eventually arises they don’t even need to advertise as they already have their man.

It’s not bias honestly it’s just I’m learning not to be a Borg or a bendover man so I trying very hard to stand up for myself. I don’t like the new me

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P Stoff:

Hurryup&wait:

P Stoff:
So am I reading that you were going to start one job but then dumped it for another job that came up at last minute. Or have I read it wrong? Perhaps I’m in some alternative universe

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P Stoff, you may well be a good man but your bias is letting you down in this topic.

I read it as two busses came along at once. One was training that hopefully would lead to something better and the other was the bus he was waiting for for a very long time cos takes him to his ideal destination.

Which bus would you get on■■?

Thank you Beaver and best of luck in the new one.

Sometimes I think it is better to call into known very good employers regularly and get to know them and vice versa so that when the vacancy eventually arises they don’t even need to advertise as they already have their man.

It’s not bias honestly it’s just I’m learning not to be a Borg or a bendover man so I trying very hard to stand up for myself. I don’t like the new me

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It’s ok mate. Nobody liked the old you either…

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True

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eagerbeaver:

peirre:
EB after giving the agency the initial letter requesting payment did you also give them another following letter marked “Letter before action” or “letter before court action” prior to instigating the small claim court proceedings?

No I didn’t P.

After firing the pistol, I ignored the rifle and went straight for the RPG :grimacing:

If you didn’t send them a letter entitled “letter before court action”, you may have shot yourself in the foot and given them a get out of jail card

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peirre:

eagerbeaver:

peirre:
EB after giving the agency the initial letter requesting payment did you also give them another following letter marked “Letter before action” or “letter before court action” prior to instigating the small claim court proceedings?

No I didn’t P.

After firing the pistol, I ignored the rifle and went straight for the RPG :grimacing:

If you didn’t send them a letter entitled “letter before court action”, you may have shot yourself in the foot and given them a get out of jail card

I thought that was for traders you had a dispute with, not an employer, but I guess that may be the case.

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peirre:
If you didn’t send them a letter entitled “letter before court action”, you may have shot yourself in the foot and given them a get out of jail card

There is no…

Requirement in law to do that.

The three that I took to court had fair warning that if the money I was owed wasn’t forthcoming they would be talking to a judge about it. I had all the evidence needed to prove the work had been done and the bank statements to prove I hadn’t been paid.

GO BEAVER!

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yourhavingalarf:

peirre:
If you didn’t send them a letter entitled “letter before court action”, you may have shot yourself in the foot and given them a get out of jail card

There is no…

Requirement in law to do that.

The three that I took to court had fair warning that if the money I was owed wasn’t forthcoming they would be talking to a judge about it. I had all the evidence needed to prove the work had been done and the bank statements to prove I hadn’t been paid.

GO BEAVER!

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