Buses, coaches, & lorries

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Trucky Mc Truckface:

Ray Smyth:
A Liverpool Corporation Bristol RE on the Dock Road in Liverpool.

Pretty sure that is a Panther. Dont recall any Re’s with the corpo

TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Buses,Motorcoaches & Lorries . Page 23 or 24,post 21.Leyland Panther & Bristol RE SD Buses of Liverpool Corporation. Friday,25th January,2019.

Liverpool Corporation - later Merseyside Transport PTE - operated both Leyland Panther and Bristol RE single decker buses,including these preserved examples in the photographs below,QV

Liverpool was the biggest United Kingdom customer for the Leyland Panther,buying 110 PSUR1A.1R models in 1968-1969.
Liverpool also bought at least 25 Bristol RE’s in 1969.

Unfortunately,the above photograph is small and fleet number and registration are not clear,but the bus is a Bristol RE

Bristol RELL6G/Park Royal B45D Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.RELL-3-564,Body No.B55984, SKB695G,4-1969,Liverpool,No.2025. Merseyside Transport Trust.Peter Steel.1#

Leyland Panther PSUR1A/1R/MCW B47D Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.703722, FKF 933G,9-1968,Liverpool,then Merseyside,No.1054.Merseyside Transport Trust.1#

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[cav551]

I can’t see the rear of the o/s clearly but this looks to have a straight waistrail. I was under the impression that Panther bodies were stepped at the rear. The link seems to support this, however it relates that the engine was transverse which I am pretty sure is incorrect.

mttrust.co.uk/#/1054-fkf-933g/4546625836

[coomsey]

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Coomsey,Saturday,10th November,2018. Page 15,post 23,Coalville,Leicestershire-based motorcoaches and buses.

AEC Regent O661/Northern Counties H30/26R DD Bus,Chassis No.O6617285,Body No.3368, EUP 598,Durham,2-1942,Stockton,No.83.Sold to Victory -Windridge,Sons & Riley,Ibstock,Leics’,No.17,12-1951,withdrawn 12-1956,scrapped 4-1959.Coomsey.1#
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One of two:the other was Chassis No.06617263,Body No.3381, EUP 597,Stockton,No.82;both were wartime unfrozen chassis and had pre-war -
style bodies,but with some utility features. 82 was sold to J.G.Parker,Bradford,3-1951,as a furniture van - it later became a showman’s van,and
was last licensed 9-1954.

Dennis Lancet/1948 Yeates C32F Motorcoach,Chassis No.170163, JU 1000,Leicester,7-1932,new as a Duple -Body No.2937- C32F motorcoach demonstrator,then Edwards,Dinnington,then Ruby Motorcoaches,T.W.Blockley,Heather,Leic’,9-1938.1#
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Daimler CD650/Roe H31/25R Double Decker Omnibus,Chassis No.16925,Body No.GO2940, KHP 998,Coventry,1949,Daimler demonstrator.Bought by T.Beckett,Bucknall,Staffordshire,in 1955.Coomsey.1#
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Worked un-registered as a demonstrator until January 1951,then registered KHP 998 - a October-November 1950 Coventry registration.

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OilTreader,Tuesday,18th December,2018.Page 20,post 21,Yutong.

Yutong City Master 1232,Halfcab,Lefthand Drive,■■■■■■■ ISB6.7E5285B,280 BHP-209 KW,752.32 LBS-FT-1020 NM @ 1200-1800 RPM Diesel-Engined,60-Seat Double Decker Bus,Skopje,Macedonia. Showbus.1#
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6-Speed Automatic Transmission.

WIKIPEDIA :-
Dimensions:-

Length
11.8 m (38 ft 9 in)

Width
2.9 m (9 ft 6 in)[citation needed]

Height
3.9 m (12 ft 10 in)

The Yutong City Master is a 2011 model of low-floor double-decker bus that was first designed for JSP Skopje, the public company which has operated bus routes in Skopje since 1948. The bus design is in a “retro” style, similar to London’s AEC Routemaster. A total of 217 have entered service.

In 2010, the government of the Republic of Macedonia ordered 202 double-decker buses from the Chinese manufacturer Yutong, two of which were open top buses with removable roofs to be used by tourists (15 more buses like these were ordered in late 2011) and the remaining 200 as city buses for the capital city of Skopje.

The first open-top buses with removable roofs and 65 transit buses were put into service on 6 September 2011, all under the name City Master. The rest of the buses, as well as another 15 cabriolet buses with removable roofs ordered in late 2011.

The cost of the project is over €41 million which was paid by the Macedonian Government.[1]

Some City Masters also appear in some cities in China such as Guangzhou.[2]
The buses are designed in a “retro” style. Former London double-decker buses were used in Skopje until the 1963 Skopje earthquake in which 75%-80% of the city’s infrastructure was destroyed.

The prototype bus appeared on the streets of Skopje on 1 March 2011, under the name ZK6116HGS.[3] UNQUOTE.

Based on the AEC Routemaster of London Transport. Skopje,Macedonia,Balkan Peninsula,Southeast Europe,one of the successor states
of the former Yugoslavia.

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OilTreader,Friday,21st December,2018.Page 21,post 2,Daimler.

Daimler CVD6SD/Weymann B35F Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.14993,Body No.C9323, JFJ 873,2-1950,Exeter,No.173.Shears,Winkleigh. FoundInAAttic-OilTreader.1#
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Buzzer,Monday,31st December,2018.Page 22,post 3,Leyland,Southdown.

Leyland N-Model,Normal Control-Bonneted/7-1928 Short O27/24RO Double Decker Open Topper Bus,Chassis No.10975, CD 5125,Brighton,1-1921,Southdown,No.125.Wikimedia.1#
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Three more additional Southdown Leyland photographs posted by me now :-

Leyland G7,Normal Control-Bonneted,/12-1928 Short O27/24RO Double Decker Open Topper Bus,Chassis No.12347, CD 7045,Brighton,5-1922,Southdown,No.135.FlickrHiveMind.1#
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Leyland Titan TD1/Brush O27/24RO Double Decker Open Topper Bus,Chassis No.70477, UF 4813,Brighton,6-1929,Southdown,No.813.FlickrHiveMind.1#
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Leyland Titan TD1,Gardner 5LW Oil-Engined,/1941 ECW Fairground Bus,Chassis No.71983, UF 7430,1931,@ Hampton Court,8-1963.New as Short DD bus,Southdown 930,Wilts & Dorset in 1939,showman F.Annear,Bristol,1953-1965.Flickr.1#
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A classic and beautiful fairground bus!

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OilTreader,Saturday,5th January,2019.Page 22,post 10,Leyland Olympian.

Leyland Olympian ONCL10/2RZ/Northern Counties Palatine H49/34F Double Decker Bus,Chassis No.10879 LNo.115,Body No.3826, G129 NRC,Nottingham,8-1989,South Notts,No.129.Nottingham Heritage Vehicles.1#
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Hi V hope you’re well. Just seen these many thanks cheers Coomsey

[oiltreader]

" AEC with Duple Britannia coachwork ,would that be ex Red Rover Aylesbury ?"
Hi Trevor, Kent motor start to finish it would appear and it now resides at he Dover Motor Museum, all the detail here flickr.com/photos/79842765@ … gkD-9QpTG4
Cheers
Oily

[cav551]

A couple of pages about Liverpool Corporation Transport. Several pictures including a Crossley DD42 and a full front Regent V, plus on page two some discussion about getting it wrong with a spring operated preselector gearbox.

old-bus-photos.co.uk/?cat=449
old-bus-photos.co.uk/?cat=449&paged=2

Some pictures and discussion about the Leyland Panther chassis which proves me wrong in that there were straight sided Panthers. Included is some discussion about the quality of various bodybuilders efforts.

old-bus-photos.co.uk/?tag=leyland-panther
old-bus-photos.co.uk/?tag=le … er&paged=2
old-bus-photos.co.uk/?tag=le … er&paged=3

[deanb]

Brabham Racing bus in 1966.

Click on page twice.

[ray_smyth]

Douglas Corporation Leyland Comet from 1950. This bus is from the impressive
collection of The North West Vehicle Restoration Trust in Liverpool.

[tyneside]

A few from the North East, I believe the single decker in the snow was taken at Flint Hill, Stanley in 1963

Tyneside

[ray_smyth]

Southport Corporation Leyland PD2 in Chapel Street in Southport town centre.
This area, like many others is now a traffic free pedestrian zone.

[ray_smyth]

Ranelagh Street in Liverpool City Centre. This Leyland Atlantean is one of a large number
that were bodied by Alexander of Falkirk. It is seen here on Route 510, one of several routes
that were “Limited Stop”. I have tried to enlarge the picture, without success. Ray Smyth.

[leyland600]

Hi Tynside that bus deep in the snow heading for Stanley via Flint Hill looks like a Venture Atkinson with Willowbrook body. Deep snow was/is a regular feature around Consett which Venture drivers could cope with. Looks like a busy time at Worswick St with the Northern Guy setting off for Jarrow.
Cheers, Leyland 600.

[tyneside]

Leyland600:
Hi Tynside that bus deep in the snow heading for Stanley via Flint Hill looks like a Venture Atkinson with Willowbrook body. Deep snow was/is a regular feature around Consett which Venture drivers could cope with. Looks like a busy time at Worswick St with the Northern Guy setting off for Jarrow.
Cheers, Leyland 600.

Hi Leyland 600. I am well used to the snow, I was born and lived in Eighton Banks on the hill top at the other side of the valley, above Birtley & Washington. Depending on exactly where you stood in the village you could see either Durham Cathedral or right over to the west past Burnhope and Pontop Pike transmitters. Over to the East was a view of the coast between the Wear and Tyne.
A couple of mile north on Old Durham Rd brought you to the top of Sherrif Hill and a panorama over Newcastle and up towards the Cheviots. Before digital Tv I could unplug the Ariel lead from my set and still get four stations.

Did you know Hunter Bros from Tantobie ? they used to run a few service buses in the Stanley / Consett area and also some tippers.

As a kid in the fifties I can remember standing in a very busy Worswick St. station with my mam waiting for the 75 which ran over the Tyne Bridge up Deckham and Sod House Bank to Sherrif Hill, along to Wrekenton and Eighton Banks down Black Fell to Chester le Street and then up to Houghton le=Spring, quite a journey.

Tyneside

[kevmac47]

tyneside:
A few from the North East, I believe the single decker in the snow was taken at Flint Hill, Stanley in 1963

Tyneside

Keep those old "Northern " shots coming “Tyneside” your rattling my memory banks! That single deck 24 to Jarrow would be a duplicate, probably due to the queue of punters standing at Worswick St. The regular “24” to South Shields was always a double decker. That pic was probably taken on a Saturday, you could guarantee being hammered all the way from Worswick St to South Shields. I was a “duck” from 1965 til 1968 when I turned 21 and went driving. I was about 8st then, probably due to all the running up and down the stairs on a decker!! Regards Kev.

[valkyrie]

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J.F.G.,Wednesday,9th January,2019. Page 22,post 12,Historic photographs.

Albion PMB28/Northern Counties B32R Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.7503A, GG 4001,Glasgow,7-1931,Baillie Brothers,No.33,Yoker,Glasgow.One of a batch of five,33-37.J.F.G.1SS#

Guy Arab MkIV/Northern Counties M.E. L27/28R Double Decker Bus,Chassis No.FD72375,Body No.4884, GCS 213,Ayr,12-1954,Western,No.GY1128,Scottish Motor Traction,Kilmarnock. J.F.G.1SS#

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J.F.G.,Wednesday,9th January,2019. Page 22,post 16,Leyland HRV photograph.

Leyland Retriever WLW3,1946-1954 Leyland-Cabbed,Workshop-Recovery - Bodied,Recovery Crane-Equipped,6x4 Heavy Recovery Vehicle-HRV-Breakdown Lorry-Wrecker-Tow Truck,Isles.Stanningley,Leeds.Ex-WW2 military vehicle.J.F.G…1SS# After de-mob this Leyland was modified and converted in to a heavy recovery vehicle,a 1946-1954 -style Beaver-Hippo-Octopus Cab was fitted and this HRV was probably re-engined with
a (Leyland? ) diesel-oil engine.

…And this how the above Leyland looked in its original military form when in service with the British War Department-War Office-Army in
World War Two :-

Leyland Retriever - WLW, WLW1, 1C, 2A, 3, 3A, 4, 4A, 4B variants,Covered Fixedside-Bodied,Overhead Gantry Crane-Equipped,3-Ton,6x4,Breakdown Gantry Lorry,WW2 British military vehicle.ArmyVehicles.DK.1#

This is a typical example,as there were many different body types and applications.

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Dean B,Wednesday,9th January,2019. Page 22,post 18,From the Leyland Journal,December 1965.

Leyland Tiger PS1 buses transport guests to the opening of the new Hydro-Electric 400-Mega-Watt Electricity Generator Station at Cruachan Dam,Scotland,which was opened by Her Majesty The Queen on Saturday,15th October,1965.

These Leyland Tiger PS1 buses,operated by W.Alexander & Sons Midland Ltd,had long service lives starting in the late 1940s-early 1950s and ending in the late 1960s - and in some cases possibly in to the early 1970s! - at least one other Alexander division did operate some of its Leyland Tiger PS1’s in to the early 1970s.

These Alexander Midland Leyland Tiger PS1’s started their lives as front-line Bluebird luxury motorcoaches,in Bluebird blue,with black and white relief,livery.They were eventually relegated in to service bus roles.
The Leyland Tiger PS1 in the photograph below,QV,is preserved as a motorcoach and almost certainly transported some of the guests to the opening of the Hydro-Electric Power Station at Cruachan Dam :-

Leyland Tiger PS1 Halfcab Full Canopy/Alexander C35F Motorcoach,Chassis No.483094,Body No.3703, CMS 200,Stirling,6-1949,Alexander Midland,No.PA181.Preserved.Picssr.1#

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OilTreader,Saturday,19th January,2019. Page 23,post 9,Scania K,Albion,etc.

Scania K124EB6/Irizar PB C42FT,6x2-Trailing Axle,SD Motorcoach,Chassis No.YS2K6X20001851583,Body No.102557, SA06 ASH,4-2006,G.Ashton,St Helens.DaveCollier-OilTreader.1#

Albion Victor PH115/1953 Reading FB32F SD Bus,Chassis No.25026I,Body No.2908,built 4-1939,653,Guernsey,now DFP 496.Originally Heaver B29F,Watson,St.Martin,Guernsey.Alan.Farrow-Flickr-Picssr.1# Now preserved by Bowring,Lydney.

Leyland Leopard PSU4E/4R/1987 Plaxton Paramount 3200 C45F Motorcoach,Chassis No.7701549,Body No.8710LLP2C01R, WUG 127S,ex-CSU 937,1978. 8-1977.New to Wallace Arnold.OilTreader.1#
One of four such motorcoaches operated by Wallace Arnold Devon,they were originally Duple C45F-bodied and were used for touring in areas
which have narrow roads,lanes,bridges,etc.

Dennis 30 CWT/Short B19R SD Bus,Chassis No.51600, UF 1517,Brighton,6-1927,Southdown,No.517.Amberley Museum.Flickriver.1#

Tilling-Stevens Express B10A2/Short B31R Single Decker Bus,Chassis No.6909, UF 6805,Brighton,10-1930,Southdown,No.1205.Southdown Omnibus Trust.FlickrHiveMind.1#

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[leyland600]

Hi Tyneside, I remember Hunter Bros from Tantobie on summer Sundays they used to bring coach loads of working mens club outings etc as did lots of other Co Durham operators over here to ■■■■■■■ on excursions to Keswick. I lived near the junction of the Wigton to Penrith road B5305 where it crossed the main A 595, just past the junction was a small lay by with an RAC call box but usually occupied by a bus or coach on a comfort stop but at the same time refilling bladders with bottles of beer being handed out through the centre rear emergency door. All the crates of course were stacked up against the door VOSA would have a fit today if they came across such a scene. There were some rare vehicles used Northern in particularly used to turn up with those old Guy Arab service buses with 5 LW Gardners similar to the one shown above producing a tedious run from the North East.
Happy carefree days and no tachographs Cheers, Leyland 600

[ray_smyth]

Southport Corporation Leyland PD2 “Half Cab” converted to “One Man Operation”
The sign attached to the radiator grill says “Please Pay Driver”.
Click on picture for full image.

[ray_smyth]

Liverpool Corporation Crossley bus with Crossley bodywork
on “Limited Stop” route 500 to Speke, seen in Lime Street in
the centre of Liverpool. There were about 50 Crossleys in the
fleet, dating from 1949/1950. From memory, most of them
were based at Garston Depot. Ray Smyth.

[leyland600]

Hi Ray, I can never understand why the Ribble PD3/4s 1500s & 1700s were never tried as OMO buses at least there was plenty room over the bonnet to issue fares not as cramped as a half cab. They were a lot more reliable than the early Atlanteans.
Cheers Leyland 600

[240_gardner]

Ray Smyth:
I drove this Leyland Leopard many times during my 2 years with Ribble from early 1968.
ECK 900E, fleet number 900 was a fine machine to drive.
Ray Smyth.

Not nearly so smart in the beastly NBC livery:

Untitled by Chris Roberts, on Flickr

[derf]

Here’s my current steed (rumour has it she has a new livery coming…)