Buses, coaches, & lorries

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A couple of photos of a Bedford Duple operated by Yarranton Bros from Eardiston nr Tenbury wells in Worcs
The pic at the side of the road was taken somewhere in France en route to The Costa Brava
The other pic was taken on a camp site which was located just outside San Antoni de Calonge ,south of Palamos on the Costa Brava.
It was mid Summer 1960 and 206 AUY had carried a youth club camping trip from Birmingham, and back without faltering.
I believe Yarranton Bros are still operating from their rural HQ and garage, and where until a few years ago operating the school buses
used by two of my grand kids.

It looks that most British coaches and buses of the '50s, '60s and '70s were built using a body made by various coachbuilders on standard chassis. Did big manufacturers as Leyland or AEC provide standard bodies? In France, Berliet, Saviem and Chausson fitted their own bodywork as standard offers, and coachbuilders were sollicitated whem more comfort was needed.

Froggy55:
It looks that most British coaches and buses of the '50s, '60s and '70s were built using a body made by various coachbuilders on standard chassis. Did big manufacturers as Leyland or AEC provide standard bodies? In France, Berliet, Saviem and Chausson fitted their own bodywork as standard offers, and coachbuilders were sollicitated whem more comfort was needed.

I think only the National was

oiltreader:
Leyland Buses Preston Oct. 1984.
Oily

The photograph of the Leyland Nationals was taken at the Workington assembly plant.

TROOPER 8011:

oiltreader:
Leyland Buses Preston Oct. 1984.
Oily

The photograph of the Leyland Nationals was taken at the Workington assembly plant.

Hi TROOPER 8011, picture source:-
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File … r_1984.jpg
which could well be inaccurate as this article mentions all Leyland National production was at Workington:-
aronline.co.uk/facts-and-fi … e-closure/
Cheers for the info :slight_smile:
Oily

Leyland at one time produced its own bodies for some double and single deck chassis, and for some coaches, but the majority were supplied as chassis only. Crossley also offered complete vehicles as well as chassis-only deals. AEC had a “captive” bodybuilder, Park Rpyal, but also supplied many of its chassis to outside companies. Bristol was a similar setup, using Eastern Coach Works (ECW) almost exclusively whilst both were under Tilling Group control. Midland Red built many of their own BMMO buses and coaches to their own designs. Seddon used its own subsidiary Pennine Coachworks to complete the Seddon-Pennine range. There were probably others.

oiltreader:

TROOPER 8011:

oiltreader:
Leyland Buses Preston Oct. 1984.
Oily

The photograph of the Leyland Nationals was taken at the Workington assembly plant.

Hi TROOPER 8011, picture source:-
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File … r_1984.jpg
which could well be inaccurate as this article mentions all Leyland National production was at Workington:-
aronline.co.uk/facts-and-fi … e-closure/
Cheers for the info :slight_smile:
Oily

Sorry Oily -
Apart from the Pre-production prototypes and (I think), a couple of the production prototypes, all the Mk 1 Leyland Nationals and the later Mk 2 versions (those shown in your post) were built at Workington. Some for Australia were produced, and sent in kit-form for assembly in Australia. There were a few others which received non-standard bodywork but were still a Workington product.

blue estate:

Froggy55:
It looks that most British coaches and buses of the '50s, '60s and '70s were built using a body made by various coachbuilders on standard chassis. Did big manufacturers as Leyland or AEC provide standard bodies? In France, Berliet, Saviem and Chausson fitted their own bodywork as standard offers, and coachbuilders were sollicitated whem more comfort was needed.

I think only the National was

Thanks! Here’s what Wikipedia says about it:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyland_National

AEC under its Assocoiated Commercial Vehicles banner also owned Roe. It would seem that the well known RT body was in fact very similar to a Roe design. For those up for it the history of Charles H Roe Coachworks make interesting readin with it mnay changes of ownership. The company in effect surviving as Optare today.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_H._Roe

“World2Meet” lime green coach passing the “Hotel Best Indalo” in Mojacar, heading south.
Picture by Paul Roberts.

Ray Smyth.

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Autocares Bernado M.A.N. coach parked at Los Molinos Restaurant near Sopalmo, Almeria Province, Spain,
which is between Carboneras and Mojacar. The car park is quite large, and is frequented by many lorry
drivers. The main meal at the restaurant is Lamb Cutlets, roasted over a wood fire. :sunglasses:
Bernado Coaches do a lot of Airport to Resort transfers for British holiday companies, Thomas Cook, Thompsons, etc.

Ray Smyth.

This blue coach brought about 40 elderly Spanish people to a nearby hotel in Mojacar,
and was parked here for several days. I heard that the Spanish Government offers all
Old Age Pensioners a subsidised short holiday break each year, whether this is true,
I do not know. If it is…I am on my way back there. :smiley:

Ray Smyth.

A coachload of Spanish pensioners had just alighted from this new Scania coach
at the Hotel El Puntazo in Mojacar, Almeria Province, Spain.

Ray Smyth.

It is Wednesday Market day in Mojacar Pueblo (Village) and 4 of these Irizar coaches
of Autocares Chapin arrived, and unloaded about 200 Spanish pensioners, looking for
a bargain in the open air market. 3.10.2018.
Ray Smyth.

Blue Coach Pueblo.jpg

These are 2 pictures by Paul Roberts of a Mercedes Benz coach that I posted earlier this week.
Ray Smyth.

Mercedes 3.jpg

Various.
Oily

Bus Richard Haughey cc by nd 2.0 9697215182_49c15eaa8a_rho.jpg

Bedford 1960 Duple advert.

Fodenway:
King Long coaches, very stylish, but were they any good?
This one was operated by Globe Coaches of Barnsley, but not for long, and is currently on SORN with the DVLA.

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TruckNetUK . Old Time Lorries . Buses,Motorcoaches And Lorries . Page 10 or 11. VALKYRIE .Sunday,14th October,2018 .

King Long Motorcoaches - Motor Coaches . Globe Motorcoaches , Barnsley . Tate , Barnsley .

King Long offer a range of motorcoaches and buses on the British public passenger road vehicle market.and have been doing so since 2005-2006.

The original British dealer of King Long earned a poor reputation in customer relations,late deliveries,etc.And so a new dealership was established
in 2015 in Birmingham,King Long UK Europe Ltd.
1.
King Long XMQ6130Y/King Long C59FT,13M,6x2-Trailing Axle,Motorcoach,Chassis No.LA6R1MSUXDB105379, BX14 KRJ,May 2014,Globe Holidays,originally Tate,Low Barugh,Barnsley.Degsy168.1#

Specifications of the above motorcoach include a ■■■■■■■ ISL E6 8.3-Litre 400 BHP Diesel Engine and a ZF 6-Speed Automatic Transmission.

The King Long Emperor XMQ6140 6x2 14M Motorcoach is powered by a DAF MX-11 E6 440 BHP Diesel Engine driving through a ZF 6-Speed
Automatic Transmission.

Globe also had some other King Long motorcoaches:-
2.
King Long XMQ6130EU/King Long C59FT,13M,6x2-Trailing Axle,Motorcoach,Chassis No.LA6R1MSU6DB105380, BX14 KRG,May,2014,Globe Holidays,originally Tate,Low Barugh,Barnsley.

.King Long XMQ6130EU,King Long C59FT,13M,6x2-Trailing Axle,Motorcoach,Chassis No.LA6R1MSU6DB105380, BX14KRG,May,2014,Globe Holidays,originally Tate,Low Barugh,Barnsley.Peco59. 1#.jpg

King Long 6130C/King Long DP73F,13M,4x2 Single Decker Motorcoach-Bus,Chassis No.LA6A1MBP3DB105392, BX64 AEV,October,2014,Globe Holidays,
originally Tate,Low Barugh,Barnsley. ■■■■■■■ ISL 9 E6 400.Voith 6-Speed Automatic Transmission.

King Long XMQ6127/King Long C49T,12M,4x2 Motorcoach,Chassis No.LA6R1KSS9DB104193, BN63 NYA,February 2014,Globe Holidays,
new to Tate,Low Barugh,Barnsley.Then Watts Motorcoaches-Grand UK Holidays ?.Sydney01.

King Long Dynasty XMQ6900/King Long C36F,9M,4x2 Motorcoach,Chassis No.LA6R1DSE3DB101019, BX13 CYU,July 2013,Globe,new to Tate,Low Barugh,
Barnsley.

.King Long Dynasty XMQ6900,King Long C36F,9M,4x2 Motorcoach,Chassis No.LA6R1DSE3DB101019, BX13 CYU,July 2013,Globe,new to Tate,Low Barugh,Barnsley. Stan-Butler.1#.jpg

King Long XMQ6800/King Long C29FT,8M,4x2 Motorcoach,Chassis No.LA6R1CSB0AB203969, GN11 EEP,April 2011,Globe,Barnsley,new to Seaview,No.121,Parkstone.

I think most if not all of the above Globe - Tate King Long motorcoaches have now been sold on to other motorcoach operators :slight_smile:

NOTE: Globe and Tate were connected,but Tate went out of business in 2016,but Globe - Rosa Motorcoaches ,Redbrook Business Park,Wilthorpe
Road,Barnsley is still in business :slight_smile: Globe had a depot on Wakefield Road,Barnsley on the lefthand - Wakefield-bound - side a bit lower down
and not far from what used to be the Paul Sykes Organisation,lorry,bus and motorcoach dealer premises,which is now the depot of Stagecoach -
Yorkshire Traction.

Yorkshire Traction Garages And Headquarters,Upper Sheffield Road,Barnsley.

What a surreal shock I had on the sunny Sunday night of 5th August,2018 when enroute to Sheffield I passed the site of what used to be the headquarters and garages of the Yorkshire Traction Company,the famous motorcoach and bus operator,now part of the Stagecoach Group.
This site is now a housing estate! :exclamation: :open_mouth: :unamused: I already knew about this years since,and had seen some photographs of this housing
estate. BUT,it was still a weird and surreal shock seeing ordinary houses - and not motorcoaches,buses and garages - in the flesh-metal-bricks :frowning:
on this sacred (to motor vehicle enthusiasts! :exclamation: :slight_smile: ) site! :exclamation:

The Yorkshire Traction garages were a welcome landmark for travellers coming in and out of Barnsley for decades! :exclamation: And when I mean decades,
I mean decades! :exclamation: :slight_smile: Yorkshire Traction used the above site from 1902 to Wednesday,22nd October,2008 ! :exclamation: All of Yorkshire Traction’s
motorcoaches and buses were then transferred to the Wakefield Road depot.

It now currently coming to the Tenth Anniversary of the unfortunate closure of the Yorkshire Traction Garages - Headquarters,Upper Sheffield Road,
Barnsley,on Monday,22nd October,2018… :frowning:

Yorkshire Traction Company Garages - Headquarters,Upper Sheffield Road,Barnsley,used from 1902 to Wednesday,22nd October,2008,were a Barnsley landmark - and hallowed ground for motor vehicle enthusiasts.Site is now a housing estate. 1# The Sheffield-bound view.

.Yorkshire Traction Company Headquarters Garages,Upper Sheffield Road,Barnsley,used from 1902 to Wednesday,22nd October,2008,were a Barnsley landmark - and hallowed ground for motor vehicle enthusiasts.Site is now housing estate. 1#.jpg

Yorkshire Traction Company Garages - Headquarters,Upper Sheffield Road,Barnsley,used from 1902 to Wednesday,22nd October,2008,were a Barnsley landmark - and hallowed ground for motor vehicle enthusiasts.Site is now a housing estate. Michael Pattison. The Barnsley-bound view.

.Yorkshire Traction Company Headquarters Garages,Upper Sheffield Road,Barnsley,used from 1902 to Wednesday,22nd October,2008,were a Barnsley landmark - and hallowed ground for motor vehicle enthusiasts.Site is now housing estate. 4#.jpg

Leyland National Mk1 SD Bus,MCN 845L,Yorkshire Traction,No.484 & Leyland Tiger TS7/1950 Weymann B34F SD Bus,Chassis No.6538,Body No.9396, HE 6762,Barnsley,4-1935,Yorkshire Traction,No.492,in one of the Yorkshire Traction garages,Barnsley.2

.Leyland National Mk1 SD Bus,MCN 845L,Yorkshire Traction,No.484 & Leyland Tiger TS7,1950 Weymann B34F SD Bus,Chassis No.6538,Body No.9396, HE 6762,Barnsley,4-1935,Yorkshire Traction,No.492,in Yorkshire Traction garage,Barnsley.1#.jpg

The above typical garage scene is charismatic,fascinating,exciting and is infinitely more interesting than an housing estate!! :exclamation: :exclamation: :smiley:

Leyland Tiger PS1/1955 Roe H33/26R DD Bus,Chassis No461073Y,Body No.GO3975,HHE 320,Yorkshire Traction,No.1039,rebuilt. New as Tiger PS1/Weymann B32F SD Bus,Chassis No.461073,Body No.C9120,AHE 462,6-1947,No.731.Roger Holmes.1#
So in 1955 this Leyland Tiger PS1 was rebuilt and converted in to a double decker omnibus,its chassis was renumbered,it was re-registered,
it was re-bodied of course and also given a new fleet number :slight_smile:

.Leyland Tiger PS1,1955 Roe H33,26R DD Bus,Chassis No461073Y,Body No.GO3975,HHE 320,Yorkshire Traction,No.1039,rebuilt. New as Tiger PS1,Weymann B32F SD Bus,Chassis No.461073,Body No.C9120,AHE 462,6-1947,No.731.Roger Holmes.1#.jpg

The above photograph is of the front cover of the book,Glory Days:Yorkshire Traction,Bob Telfer,Ian Allan,2008.The superb Roger Holmes
front cover photograph of the above Leyland Tiger has archetype all over it: it is of a archetypal Yorkshire Traction bus of the kind that were
in service during the 1940s,1950s,1960s and early 1970s ;the Leyland Tiger PS1 is a classic and archetypal Leyland ; this Leyland also has the
archetypal and charismatic Leyland look :smiley:

VALKYRIE

This Scania N113 bus has been seen earlier on page 4, It is now about 20 years old,
and still in service as a spare vehicle, and used as an extra on busy Market Days.
It is part of the fleet of Autocares Rodrigues of Los Gollardos, Almeria, Spain.
Ray Smyth.

bctso.f.jpgFasinating stuff all this PSV info.
A touch disappointing not to see any Birmingham City Transport ,ie,pre WMPTE era pics or memories.
A one time the Birmingham City Fleet was the largest municipal undertaking in the world and second to none in regard to its maintainance regime.
OK, i am a tad biased as i spent my first 12 working years as a mechanic at BCTs Selly Oak Depot.
The photo was not taken by me but by Cyril Cooper, also a mechanic at Selly Oak.
It shows one of BCTs all Crossley double deckers with some heavy remidial work taking place on the Crossley engine, not Crossleys best point
The Crossley bodywork however was excellent and looking back i think these exposed radiator Crossleys where one of the best looking PSVs on the road.
The date is unknown but likely to be in the first half of the 60s.