muckles:
Winseer:
muckles:
Winseer:
Has anyone explained yet - WHY exactly a “No Deal Brexit” as opposed to any other kind of Brexit - is so badMaybe because we’ve spent decades building up systems to trade freely with 27 other nations and businesses have built their operations to use those systems, then overnight its all gone, without time to build, test and introduce the new trading systems that will replace it, or introduce the infrastructure and personnel to deal with the new system.
Many busineses across the EU rely on goods travelling unhindered between countries and even WTO rules would involve customs and paperwork, if WTO was as simple as some make out, why do so many countries spend so much time and effort trying to get free trade agreements.
If you listen to business leaders, it’s not so much Brexit that’s their problem, but the uncertainty its created, although many would prefer to stay in the EU as they’d carry on as before, but then business, Parliament the EU operating “as before” is the problem for many and in my opinion the reason so many across Europe and other countries are looking to protest against that system in any way they can, however unpalatable that may be for some.
Yes, it will be painful for both sides to go through the “upheaval” of changing the system.
We go through a similar upheaval - every time we get a sea change in Government. Life after the 2010 general election for example - got pretty bad pretty quickly for a lot of people who pay the taxes… .Considering the Governments for the last 30+ years have followed pretty much the same economic agenda, that includes Blair’s “New Labour” which was basically another centrist party pandering to the global financial system, it’s hardly an upheaval, and much of what happen after the 2010 election was due to a massive global fincial crisis, not just UK government policy, except for the continuing policy of a Laissez-faire attitude to the global financiers.
Winseer:
Are we really going to have Lefties slashing their wrists (or our tyres…?) when they get their arses well and truly kicked at the next election?
Around 2-3m UKIP voters from 2015 likely backed Corbyn in 2017 for a bit of a lark… Now Corbyn thinks he’s popular, when in fact all those UKIP voters have done - is present a jumps course that has only matchbox-sized fences on it, rather than something more akin to Aintree… .What evidence have you that UKIP supporters voted in their droves for Labour and Corbyn? From the UKIP supporters I know, I should think most of them would eat their own [zb] before voting for Corbyn
I put a tenner on at 40-1 that Corbyn would win between 250 and 300 seats thanks to the very notion that “Some UKIP voters, probably over a million of them - will back Corbyn on June 8th 2017” - to give Theresa May a bloody nose, if nothing else. They might have perceived that to “Give May a majority she wanted” - could easily be twisted into an excuse for May to “drop Brexit”, because she is too far ahead (having her anticipated ‘thumping majority’) to lose… “Migrating UKIP voters” - decided otherwise.Winseer:
In the meantime, it is hard for small to medium businesses to compete with the big boys, who have this large investment in “EU infrastructure appeasement” if you will.Yes the whole global trading system is rigged for the big boys, that includes Countries and businesses.
Winseer:
Ceasing trading with someone nearby, and commencing trading with someone much further away - even for double the profits - requires people to pull their finger out and actually do some WORK in the administration business of re-routing all our trade routes to circumvent the single market outright, ideally…Back home meanwhile - if you take away a minus - you get a PLUS on our balance of Trade. This pays down the deficit a lot faster than any “Tory Cuts”.
I see Brexit as an alternative way to get the country’s books rebalanced.
It’s okay looking for new markets, but they’re not going to be there on 30th March, it will take some time and why in the meantime mess up how to trade with countries which we have well established trade links and that are close and easy to get goods to?
We need to build a lot more trading infrastructure. I believe that transport hubs are being built up and down the country as we speak, and this directly affects us as drivers in the very near future. Milton Keyes - looks most impressive as you drive past the MP1-MP3 sites whilst driving along the M1…