I’m curious......

TheUncaringCowboy:
580 Scania manual, wouldn’t be bothered if it was auto as any Scania auto I’ve driven, v8 or not, has been excellent.

I enjoy the manual but it gets tedious in traffic.

No point having a V8 unless you can give it unnecessary blips of the throttle between gear changes [emoji23]
I had a 164 500 a few years ago for a while which was manual.