Thanks Lizard, and well done for not ignoring the symptoms. I echo your advice, if doubt get it checked, straight away. I had no idea cancer was even a possibility and even the GP diagnosed a muscular problem at first, it was the pysio he sent me to that spotted it. Straight away I was told it was advanced stage 4. Currently having hormones and chem simply to extend life as the cancer is out of the preostrate and into the bones etc.