Yet more aid going to those fake refugees at calais

Driver-Once-More:
They’ll try to get to the EU anyway they can

bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34602208

This is absurd :imp:

Dolph:

gazsa401:
Just watching the BBC Daily Politics show with the ex Greek prime minister as chief guest
It blows a massive hole in your pro EU propaganda [zb]
I’ve never seen or heard a honest politician say how it is within the EU zone
It’s amazing when somebody can speak without Adolf Merkel twisting his arm and he can speak openly and freely how much the kraut ■■■■■ as the EU under one of her jackboots
And Dolph I’ll be posting this on all the topics you’ve hijacked with your pro EU bile

Blows a hole my a$$, Greece should have been left to bankrupt and not left to twist EU hands every 4-5years for the past 30 ought years. Greece is the worst example to use when talking about EU.
People lived like Tsars in Greece and we are all paying for it.

thepeakeffect.com/2011/10/gr … nuses.html
thestar.com/business/2010/04 … _work.html

I’ve taken you’ve not watched the programme it’s amazing what the pro EU media don’t want us to see, read or hear
It’s a good job the programme is broadcasted live because you hear it first hand how undemocratic the EU is and
Dolph I can scour the net and fill these topics with unfounded misguided quotes
Bye for now

raymundo:
It’s quite understandable why Dolph is pro the EU, it’s paid for him to leave the medieval days and join the 21st century, same as Romania and the rest while pushing us backwards in time.

Your politicians and employers who are pushing you, not us, stop using us as scapegoats for all of your problems all the time.
We are so medieval that we send a men into space ahead of you. :grimacing:

Dolph:

gazsa401:
Just watching the BBC Daily Politics show with the ex Greek prime minister as chief guest
It blows a massive hole in your pro EU propaganda [zb]
I’ve never seen or heard a honest politician say how it is within the EU zone
It’s amazing when somebody can speak without Adolf Merkel twisting his arm and he can speak openly and freely how much the kraut ■■■■■ as the EU under one of her jackboots
And Dolph I’ll be posting this on all the topics you’ve hijacked with your pro EU bile

Blows a hole my a$$, Greece should have been left to bankrupt and not left to twist EU hands every 4-5years for the past 30 ought years. Greece is the worst example to use when talking about EU.
People lived like Tsars in Greece and we are all paying for it.

thepeakeffect.com/2011/10/gr … nuses.html
thestar.com/business/2010/04 … _work.html

We could have said the same in the case of all the wealth re distribution from western Europe to Eastern Europe.Which probably amounts to a lot more than Greece’s debts.As for why is Greece in such a zb state the whole thing was predictable in an economy based mostly on shipping bearing in mind the fate of our shipping industry.Which was then provided with a German valued currency to buy German goods.

IE What ‘we’re’ actually paying for in that regard is German jobs and German living standards bought with unsustainable German exports to a basket case economy which had no way of paying for them.Which is more or less where we’re headed in an economy that has a similar case of not realising the catastrophic economic effects of trying to sustain an unsustainable trade deficit.But it’s easy for Eastern Europe to criticise Greece from a position of being a safe preferred net beneficiary of EU membership. :unamused:

gazsa401:

Dolph:

gazsa401:
Just watching the BBC Daily Politics show with the ex Greek prime minister as chief guest
It blows a massive hole in your pro EU propaganda [zb]
I’ve never seen or heard a honest politician say how it is within the EU zone
It’s amazing when somebody can speak without Adolf Merkel twisting his arm and he can speak openly and freely how much the kraut ■■■■■ as the EU under one of her jackboots
And Dolph I’ll be posting this on all the topics you’ve hijacked with your pro EU bile

Blows a hole my a$$, Greece should have been left to bankrupt and not left to twist EU hands every 4-5years for the past 30 ought years. Greece is the worst example to use when talking about EU.
People lived like Tsars in Greece and we are all paying for it.

thepeakeffect.com/2011/10/gr … nuses.html
thestar.com/business/2010/04 … _work.html

I’ve taken you’ve not watched the programme it’s amazing what the pro EU media don’t want us to see, read or hear
It’s a good job the programme is broadcasted live because you hear it first hand how undemocratic the EU is and
Dolph I can scour the net and fill these topics with unfounded misguided quotes
Bye for now

Lets agree to disagree, being Greek neighbor give us a little different prospective on their culture, economy, country etc. We work, trade, study, marry and go on holiday among us, again lets agree to disagree.
But you are free to believe the Greek politician on the tv :wink:

Carryfast:

Dolph:

gazsa401:
Just watching the BBC Daily Politics show with the ex Greek prime minister as chief guest
It blows a massive hole in your pro EU propaganda [zb]
I’ve never seen or heard a honest politician say how it is within the EU zone
It’s amazing when somebody can speak without Adolf Merkel twisting his arm and he can speak openly and freely how much the kraut ■■■■■ as the EU under one of her jackboots
And Dolph I’ll be posting this on all the topics you’ve hijacked with your pro EU bile

Blows a hole my a$$, Greece should have been left to bankrupt and not left to twist EU hands every 4-5years for the past 30 ought years. Greece is the worst example to use when talking about EU.
People lived like Tsars in Greece and we are all paying for it.

thepeakeffect.com/2011/10/gr … nuses.html
thestar.com/business/2010/04 … _work.html

We could have said the same in the case of all the wealth re distribution from western Europe to Eastern Europe.Which probably amounts to a lot more than Greece’s debts.As for why is Greece in such a zb state the whole thing was predictable in an economy based mostly on shipping bearing in mind the fate of our shipping industry.Which was then provided with a German valued currency to buy German goods.

IE What ‘we’re’ actually paying for in that regard is German jobs and German living standards bought with unsustainable German exports to a basket case economy which had no way of paying for them.Which is more or less where we’re headed in an economy that has a similar case of not realising the catastrophic economic effects of trying to sustain an unsustainable trade deficit.But it’s easy for Eastern Europe to criticise Greece from a position of being a safe preferred net beneficiary of EU membership. :unamused:

Total ■■■■■■■■, there is no safe position. Yes there is EU funding but is very strict and had nothing to do with Greek lavish life, overspending and corruption that brought the country to bankruptcy.
On that note we(Bulgaria) are in a lot bigger danger then you might think when comes the Greek crisis. EU funding is a joke compare to that.
Greece is one of our biggest trading partner, most tourist in northern Greece comes from Bulgaria, and most tourists(500 000) that come here are from our southern neighbor, Greek companies(14000) create jobs here as well as 200 000 Bulgarians work there, 30% or the Bulgarian banking sector is owned by Greek banks and on and on and on.
So no its not ■■■■ easy for EE to criticize GR, but is the right thing to do even though we will suffer greatly if they go down.

Dolph:

Carryfast:
We could have said the same in the case of all the wealth re distribution from western Europe to Eastern Europe.Which probably amounts to a lot more than Greece’s debts.As for why is Greece in such a zb state the whole thing was predictable in an economy based mostly on shipping bearing in mind the fate of our shipping industry.Which was then provided with a German valued currency to buy German goods.

IE What ‘we’re’ actually paying for in that regard is German jobs and German living standards bought with unsustainable German exports to a basket case economy which had no way of paying for them.Which is more or less where we’re headed in an economy that has a similar case of not realising the catastrophic economic effects of trying to sustain an unsustainable trade deficit.But it’s easy for Eastern Europe to criticise Greece from a position of being a safe preferred net beneficiary of EU membership. :unamused:

Total ■■■■■■■■, there is no safe position. Yes there is EU funding but is very strict and had nothing to do with Greek lavish life, overspending and corruption that brought the country to bankruptcy.
On that note we(Bulgaria) are in a lot bigger danger then you might think when comes the Greek crisis. EU funding is a joke compare to that.
Greece is one of our biggest trading partner, most tourist in northern Greece comes from Bulgaria, and most tourists(500 000) that come here are from our southern neighbor, Greek companies(14000) create jobs here as well as 200 000 Bulgarians work there, 30% or the Bulgarian banking sector is owned by Greek banks and on and on and on.
So no its not ■■■■ easy for EE to criticize GR, but is the right thing to do even though we will suffer greatly if they go down.

You’re saying that the amount of EU funding that has gone into Eastern Europe to drag it out of it’s ex Soviet wreckage is a ‘joke’.Then you say that you’re worried about the Greek economy collapsing because it will take with it all those jobs and the investment that Greece has sent to Bulgaria.Have you ever thought that it’s all that investment and exported jobs and immigrant labour putting Greeks out of work,depressing wage rates,and taking money out of the Greek economy that is helping to wreck that economy.In addition to its unsustainable trade deficit with zb Merkel’s Germany. :unamused:

Carryfast:

Dolph:

Carryfast:
We could have said the same in the case of all the wealth re distribution from western Europe to Eastern Europe.Which probably amounts to a lot more than Greece’s debts.As for why is Greece in such a zb state the whole thing was predictable in an economy based mostly on shipping bearing in mind the fate of our shipping industry.Which was then provided with a German valued currency to buy German goods.

IE What ‘we’re’ actually paying for in that regard is German jobs and German living standards bought with unsustainable German exports to a basket case economy which had no way of paying for them.Which is more or less where we’re headed in an economy that has a similar case of not realising the catastrophic economic effects of trying to sustain an unsustainable trade deficit.But it’s easy for Eastern Europe to criticise Greece from a position of being a safe preferred net beneficiary of EU membership. :unamused:

Total ■■■■■■■■, there is no safe position. Yes there is EU funding but is very strict and had nothing to do with Greek lavish life, overspending and corruption that brought the country to bankruptcy.
On that note we(Bulgaria) are in a lot bigger danger then you might think when comes the Greek crisis. EU funding is a joke compare to that.
Greece is one of our biggest trading partner, most tourist in northern Greece comes from Bulgaria, and most tourists(500 000) that come here are from our southern neighbor, Greek companies(14000) create jobs here as well as 200 000 Bulgarians work there, 30% or the Bulgarian banking sector is owned by Greek banks and on and on and on.
So no its not ■■■■ easy for EE to criticize GR, but is the right thing to do even though we will suffer greatly if they go down.

You’re saying that the amount of EU funding that has gone into Eastern Europe to drag it out of it’s ex Soviet wreckage is a ‘joke’.Then you say that you’re worried about the Greek economy collapsing because it will take with it all those jobs and the investment that Greece has sent to Bulgaria.Have you ever thought that it’s all that investment and exported jobs and immigrant labour putting Greeks out of work,depressing wage rates,and taking money out of the Greek economy that is helping to wreck that economy.In addition to its unsustainable trade deficit with zb Merkel’s Germany. :unamused:

Meant to say Bulgaria, not the entire EE. Well Greek companies started moving here when their government introduces humongous taxes few years ago in order to pay for their lavish life, I don’t blame the companies. But Greek Government cooked the book for decades, they have to learn their lesson the hard way.

tommy t:
Well the petition against immigration was debated yesterday in parliament, what a waste of time when they are all pro immigration socialists who don’t have a clue what is really going on, with the bunch of morons running the show we are doomed

True words :frowning:

Dolph:
Greek companies started moving here when their government introduces humongous taxes few years ago in order to pay for their lavish life, I don’t blame the companies. But Greek Government cooked the book for decades, they have to learn their lesson the hard way.

Tax increases take money out of the economy they don’t fund lavish lifestyles. :unamused:

However tax increases and/or cut backs in public spending are a symptom of an unsustainable trade deficit in order to pay for the difference in the value of exports v the value of imports.IE that difference doesn’t just magically disappear as the Cons try to make out.As in all cases the success of any economy depends on it employing its own people on good wages to spend on domestically produced goods and any money that is invested is mainly invested at home.While imports have to be balanced with exports.IE Fordist Capitalism within a protectionist Nationalist regime.Which in Greece’s case means import and investment controls and Greek jobs for Greek workers.Just like us. :bulb:

Dolph:

raymundo:
It’s quite understandable why Dolph is pro the EU, it’s paid for him to leave the medieval days and join the 21st century, same as Romania and the rest while pushing us backwards in time.

Your politicians and employers who are pushing you, not us, stop using us as scapegoats for all of your problems all the time.
We are so medieval that we send a men into space ahead of you. :grimacing:

Maybe you did … :slight_smile:

raymundo:

Dolph:

raymundo:
It’s quite understandable why Dolph is pro the EU, it’s paid for him to leave the medieval days and join the 21st century, same as Romania and the rest while pushing us backwards in time.

Your politicians and employers who are pushing you, not us, stop using us as scapegoats for all of your problems all the time.
We are so medieval that we send a men into space ahead of you. :grimacing:

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Maybe you did … :slight_smile:

I love the British humor :stuck_out_tongue:

Actually Dolph I’m an immigrant in my adopted country. I moved to Scotland from England 20 years ago. :slight_smile:

raymundo:
Actually Dolph I’m an immigrant in my adopted country. I moved to Scotland from England 20 years ago. :slight_smile:

Aye! Did you become Scot or kept being “Little Englander” :grimacing:

P.S. Just kidding.

Dolph:

raymundo:
Actually Dolph I’m an immigrant in my adopted country. I moved to Scotland from England 20 years ago. :slight_smile:

Aye! Did you become Scot or kept being “Little Englander” :grimacing:

P.S. Just kidding.

I integrated 100%, I now say hoose instead of house and fae instead of from. Scotch whisky is now my favorite tipple (but it was when even when I lived ‘darn sarf’ ) Wild horses and a million pound could never drag me back to that cess pit part of a country that was once called Great Britain. Bring on the next independence referendum !!

Now don’t tell me you like bagpipe music as well to go with the Scotch whiskey and I might think you are half Bulgarian :grimacing: :grimacing:

There is no E in Scotch Whisky (registered trademark), it’s the stuff that’s made elsewhere that has an E, as in Irish Whiskey :slight_smile: Bagpipes can sound ok if played properly.

raymundo:

Dolph:

raymundo:
Actually Dolph I’m an immigrant in my adopted country. I moved to Scotland from England 20 years ago. :slight_smile:

Aye! Did you become Scot or kept being “Little Englander” :grimacing:

P.S. Just kidding.

I integrated 100%, I now say hoose instead of house and fae instead of from. Scotch whisky is now my favorite tipple (but it was when even when I lived ‘darn sarf’ ) Wild horses and a million pound could never drag me back to that cess pit part of a country that was once called Great Britain. Bring on the next independence referendum !!

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I don’t think you’ve thought this through.

Does this mean that you support Sturgeon’s idea to let all the ‘refugees’ in and that we can then send them all directly from Dover across the border where they will be welcomed and ‘integrated’ into the finer points of Scottish culture.I can just picture the scene when the Muslims are all told that they have the choice between converting to either Catholic or Protestant but we recommend the former of the two. :smiling_imp: :laughing: :laughing:

Carryfast:

Terry T:
We need to keep Muslamic Ray Guns out of Britain :smiley:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPD8qHhtVU

Looks more like a staged mainstream media and false flag Socialist Worker type anti anti immigration publicity stunt. :unamused:

No, I really do think he’s that stupid. He even gives racists a bad name.

Why would anyone make such a monumental ■■■■ out of themselves on TV ?

Bulgaria, Serbia and Romania said on Saturday they would close their borders if Germany or other countries do the same to stop refugees coming in, warning they would not allow the Balkan region to become a buffer zone for stranded migrants.

Bulgarian Prime Minister Boiko Borisov announced the decision after meeting his Serbian and Romanian counterparts in the capital Sofia ahead of a planned summit of European Union leaders on Sunday.

It is an indication of the divisions that have opened up between European Union states over how to deal with an influx of hundreds of thousands of migrants, many fleeing conflict in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

“The three countries, we are standing ready, if Germany and Austria close their borders, not to allow our countries to become buffer zones. We will be ready to close borders,” Borisov told reporters.

“We will not expose our countries to the devastating pressure of millions that would come.”

reuters.com/article/2015/10/ … =worldNews