Yet more aid going to those fake refugees at calais

[dolph]

Juddian:
There must be something being put in the water at the schools and unversities the leaders and apparactchiks of the northern european countries attended, unless they are all being paid so much (Judas to a man) that they will do whatever is required to further this strange self destructive route.
Why would a continent attempt to destroy itself and all it worked for and the future of its own people.
I hope the Hungarians and a few others hold firm, they are our last line of defence.

High time all our dwindling armed forces were recalled and charged with defending this country (which is their real job), stationing a few hundred paras at the tunnel entrance with orders to do as required would be a start.

+1 I hope we do, on that note:

Bulgarian border police authorities said on Wednesday they had prevented a total of 13 groups of migrants from entering Bulgaria in 24 hours. 256 people total.
See more at: novinite.com/articles/171430 … cBDr6.dpuf

Romanian truck with 31 refugees caught at Bulgarian-Turkish border.
The Bulgarian Defence Minister Nikolay Nenchev said that the pressure from immigrants was expected to grow during winter months.
“If it’s necessary, we are ready to assist the Turkish-Bulgarian border guards and strengthen the troop presence there,” said Nenchev.
Asked whether the army would use force and firearms, Nenchev replied that this would only happen if the defense couldn’t be provided anymore.
romania-insider.com/romanian … er/157923/

the Prime Minister said.
In his words, it is a concerning fact that just a small part of the migrants in Bulgaria is refugees from Syria.
“We detain mostly citizens of Afghanistan and Pakistan at our border, people who have nothing to do with the war in Syria. This is more concerning. These are young people, who were in Iran, Iraq and other places; they come in organised groups comprised only of men. Thus we should be on high alert,” he commented further.
The Bulgarian Prime Minister added that there was a need to find a solution to the war, otherwise nothing good would happen.
focus-fen.net/news/2015/10/2 … istan.html

How many of this illegals will go to Calais and try to sneak into UK is not known. Because when interviewed some say UK, some Germany, Switzerland or Sweden. Its like a menu in a restaurant, but instead of meals there is European countries.

[carryfast]

Dolph:

Carryfast:
It seems clear that there is a link between Merkel and the old East German Stasi and it’s a fair bet that the ‘NGO alliance’ has some links with the same agenda.Bearing in mind this is the same agenda that armed the Arabs to the teeth in order to wipe Israel off the map.IE they don’t like the idea of the nation state and will do whatever it takes to destroy it.While you continue to talk like a Nationalist.But then play into the hands of the Socialists by following their Federalist agenda of not only no borders between Asia and Europe but also none within Europe itself.IE there is no selective mix and match in the idea of friends with fences or fences for security.In which case at face value go for it Bulgaria and Hungary do whatever it takes to stop these zb’s.But don’t then use double standards regards the idea of the nation state and national borders within Europe.While on that note what the zb is Slovenia and Croatia and Serbia doing by not helping you.

What is stopping you from controlling your borders? You are not in schengen after all.
And yes you cant discriminate EU citizens, either all(regardless of the country of origin) or non as long as you are in the union.

I think that you’ve missed the point that you are applying a contradictory ( hypocritical ) nationalist view regarding non EU immigrants while applying a Federalist one regards free movement in Europe when it suits you.While it seems clear that our government is just applying a Socialist type policy of an open door for all which isn’t surprising from a government which has thrown its lot in with the Chinese Communist Party let alone Merkel’s socialist agenda.On that note what is ‘stopping us’ is the fact that it would take a military coup ordered by the Royal Family to sort it out.In which we not only put the pro EU aganda on trial for treason but also those who are selling the country’s interests and national security out to the zb Chinese Communists.Instead of which we’ve got the Queen who went through WW2,in the fight against what was effectively just another form of Socialism,now kow towing to a bunch of Socialist Commie chancers who aren’t much different in their aims to those of Hitler.

[carryfast]

Dolph:

Driver-Once-More:
And now the French are giving them heated tents!

bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34600107

No wonder illegals are heading west. Germany said they are welcome, France is giving them heated tents, UK private jets and limos and benefits of all sorts

It would be fair to say that you’re not describing France,or us,or Germany as being in a united agreement on the issues.We are all actually split on the issues to the point where the fight between Nationalist v Socialist could all get very nasty in the long term.The idea of the Socialists now trying to take Le Pen out on bs ‘racism’ charges and Merkel’s fight with PEGIDA etc maybe showing the first signs of that.As for the Brits they are always slow to rise up but if/when they do they generally aren’t a nation that anyone wants to cross.

[tommy_t]

Heated tents have the frogs gone mad napalm and bulldozers are what is needed,

[carryfast]

Juddian:
There must be something being put in the water at the schools and unversities the leaders and apparactchiks of the northern european countries attended, unless they are all being paid so much (Judas to a man) that they will do whatever is required to further this strange self destructive route.
Why would a continent attempt to destroy itself and all it worked for and the future of its own people.
I hope the Hungarians and a few others hold firm, they are our last line of defence.

High time all our dwindling armed forces were recalled and charged with defending this country (which is their real job), stationing a few hundred paras at the tunnel entrance with orders to do as required would be a start.

As I’ve said it seems clear,that the issues of the government selling out the national interest to people like zb Merkel and Jinping jack flash,have reached the point where it’s now a matter for the military to sort it out by temporary coup if necessary.The fact that they continue to be sat doing zb all and saying zb all is scary.

[juddian]

Carryfast:

Juddian:
There must be something being put in the water at the schools and unversities the leaders and apparactchiks of the northern european countries attended, unless they are all being paid so much (Judas to a man) that they will do whatever is required to further this strange self destructive route.
Why would a continent attempt to destroy itself and all it worked for and the future of its own people.
I hope the Hungarians and a few others hold firm, they are our last line of defence.

High time all our dwindling armed forces were recalled and charged with defending this country (which is their real job), stationing a few hundred paras at the tunnel entrance with orders to do as required would be a start.

As I’ve said it seems clear,that the issues of the government selling out the national interest to people like zb Merkel and Jinping jack flash,have reached the point where it’s now a matter for the military to sort it out by temporary coup if necessary.The fact that they continue to be sat doing zb all and saying zb all is scary.

And i’ve said before that in our lifetime we may yet see our own military used against our own citizens when the dam breaks, the British lion might well be a neutered kitten now, but at some point we will say ‘enough’, by then the eu should have its own German led stormtroopers so they’ll be the first wave sent to quell the natives, be a sad day indeed to see our own lads do the bidding of traitors on our home soil.

Don’t expect any support from Madge or her mob, she signed off on Lisbon just like the others, a citizen of europe now beholden to Germany just like any other other holder of an eu passport.

[dolph]

Carryfast:

Dolph:

Carryfast:
It seems clear that there is a link between Merkel and the old East German Stasi and it’s a fair bet that the ‘NGO alliance’ has some links with the same agenda.Bearing in mind this is the same agenda that armed the Arabs to the teeth in order to wipe Israel off the map.IE they don’t like the idea of the nation state and will do whatever it takes to destroy it.While you continue to talk like a Nationalist.But then play into the hands of the Socialists by following their Federalist agenda of not only no borders between Asia and Europe but also none within Europe itself.IE there is no selective mix and match in the idea of friends with fences or fences for security.In which case at face value go for it Bulgaria and Hungary do whatever it takes to stop these zb’s.But don’t then use double standards regards the idea of the nation state and national borders within Europe.While on that note what the zb is Slovenia and Croatia and Serbia doing by not helping you.

What is stopping you from controlling your borders? You are not in schengen after all.
And yes you cant discriminate EU citizens, either all(regardless of the country of origin) or non as long as you are in the union.

I think that you’ve missed the point that you are applying a contradictory ( hypocritical ) nationalist view regarding non EU immigrants while applying a Federalist one regards free movement in Europe when it suits you.While it seems clear that our government is just applying a Socialist type policy of an open door for all which isn’t surprising from a government which has thrown its lot in with the Chinese Communist Party let alone Merkel’s socialist agenda.On that note what is ‘stopping us’ is the fact that it would take a military coup ordered by the Royal Family to sort it out.In which we not only put the pro EU aganda on trial for treason but also those who are selling the country’s interests and national security out to the zb Chinese Communists.Instead of which we’ve got the Queen who went through WW2 in the fight against Socialism now kow towing to a bunch of Socialist Commie chancers who aren’t much different in their aims to those of Hitler.

I have not missed any point, you missed the point that its your(British voter) fault where UK is today, because you elected the Government of UK, Bulgarians, Polish or Romanians didn’t. You even reelected David Cameron this past summer instead of protesting and demanding referendum immediately.
Of course I’ll apply nationalist view regarding people with whom we are not in a union, a union in which we share common cultural/political/religious values and trade capital and workforce. You may not like Eastern Europeans being cheap labor in UK, I got that, but thats nowhere near to compare it to illegal muslim from the Middle East who just decided to go to EU. And the so called cheap labor could be tackled very fast and easy by UK government- introducing higher minimum wage, mandatory certificates for all trades, spoken and written English at certain level, and most importantly No benefits if you don’t need them and didn’t contribute into the system. Simply Downing streets doesn’t want to this changes, because they are in the pocket of big business.
channel4.com/news/supermarke … n-launched

You will leave EU, we all gonna lose, don’t you think for a second that your economy will not suffer, manufacturing, agriculture etc. To export to UK you still will have to comply with EU rules of free movement of capital and labor.
And most importantly, what makes you think that UK Government and big business in order to stay competitive will not import non EU migrants once you are out of EU? What makes you sure that Bulgarians, Poles, Romanians, Hungarians etc. will not be replaced by people from Africa and Asia once we can not work in UK anymore? Considering the fact that even today non EU immigrants in UK are more then all EU migrants coming to UK.

[carryfast]

Dolph:
I have not missed any point, you missed the point that its your(British voter) fault where UK is today, because you elected the Government of UK, Bulgarians, Polish or Romanians didn’t. You even reelected David Cameron this past summer instead of protesting and demanding referendum immediately.
Of course I’ll apply nationalist view regarding people with whom we are not in a union, a union in which we share common cultural/political/religious values and trade capital and workforce. You may not like Eastern Europeans being cheap labor in UK, I got that, but thats nowhere near to compare it to illegal muslim from the Middle East who just decided to go to EU. And the so called cheap labor could be tackled very fast and easy by UK government- introducing higher minimum wage, mandatory certificates for all trades, spoken and written English at certain level, and most importantly No benefits if you don’t need them and didn’t contribute into the system. Simply Downing streets doesn’t want to this changes, because they are in the pocket of big business.
channel4.com/news/supermarke … n-launched

You will leave EU, we all gonna lose, don’t you think for a second that your economy will not suffer, manufacturing, agriculture etc. To export to UK you still will have to comply with EU rules of free movement of capital and labor.
And most importantly, what makes you think that UK Government and big business in order to stay competitive will not import non EU migrants once you are out of EU? What makes you sure that Bulgarians, Poles, Romanians, Hungarians etc. will not be replaced by people from Africa and Asia once we can not work in UK anymore? Considering the fact that even today non EU immigrants in UK are more then all EU migrants coming to UK.

You still seem to have missed the point that we’ve got a dodgy electoral system that gives Cameron a majority in terms of MP’s but not in terms of votes.While even the opposition is crippled by the same combination of socialism and free market globalism.Partly because of an uneducated electorate that believes all the propaganda and which can’t differentiate nationalist from ■■■■.

While as I’ve said I think we have everything to gain and nothing to lose by leaving the EU.Bearing in mind that your ideas,regarding trade sanctions being applied,if we leave the EU and tell it to shove its control freak ideas,will hurt the EU a lot more than us even to the point of actually benefitting us.IE how can we lose in a situation whereby it’s us who is the net importer of EU stuff and in which taking back the domestic market is worth more than keeping the EU one.

As for the intentions of the anti EU side among the Cons and UKIP yes I agree with you that they are probably still a bunch of free market globalists,who’d be just as happy to sell us out to the Chinese Communists and cheap labour agenda as Cameron is.

Which is why I’ve said our only real hope is for a massive shift in the Labour Party away from Socialism to Nationalism.Which is where Shore was trying to take it.

Which then just leaves the question of which is better nationalist light in the form of UKIP and then hope that Farage will see sense in going full on nationalist.Or stay where we are and hope that the bi polar nationalist when it suits it mindset of the slavic group will actually act as a brake on how far Merkel and Cameron etc can go in selling us all out to an alien African and Asian demographic takeover ( doubtful ).Sadly as Juddian has pointed out it might all be too late for any of those choices to be made.

On that note I was asking my old WW2 generation mum what she thinks of all this and her answer was along the lines stuff the country I no longer care. Which I think would have also been shared by my dad if he was still here.

[bestbooties]

tommy t:
Well Euro tunnel has been stuffed again currently a 6 hour delay due to illegals yet again, they may as well close the crappy tunnel

Worse thing ever was to build the ■■■■■■■ tunnel, there must be a plug somewhere that can be pulled?

[carryfast]

bestbooties:

tommy t:
Well Euro tunnel has been stuffed again currently a 6 hour delay due to illegals yet again, they may as well close the crappy tunnel

Worse thing ever was to build the [zb] tunnel, there must be a plug somewhere that can be pulled?

Maybe a big pneumatic drill and a lot of air hose a boat with a compressor and some diving gear would do it.But that would be considered a terrorist attack and the forces would be on the scene in minutes.

[juddian]

bestbooties:

tommy t:
Well Euro tunnel has been stuffed again currently a 6 hour delay due to illegals yet again, they may as well close the crappy tunnel

Worse thing ever was to build the [zb] tunnel, there must be a plug somewhere that can be pulled?

There’s a reason Britain stayed free, an island is easy to defend if you have a Navy worth its name, have to be a hell of a bloody swimmer to get here without a boat.

[tommy_t]

Carryfast:

bestbooties:

tommy t:
Well Euro tunnel has been stuffed again currently a 6 hour delay due to illegals yet again, they may as well close the crappy tunnel

Worse thing ever was to build the [zb] tunnel, there must be a plug somewhere that can be pulled?

Maybe a big pneumatic drill and a lot of air hose a boat with a compressor and some diving gear would do it.But that would be considered a terrorist attack and the forces would be on the scene in minutes.

Shame the same forces aren’t on the scene at all to stop them walking through the tunnel, but no soft touch ukplc couldn’t give a crap, they should have a 24/7 armed guard on the French side , or every single one of them that makes it through the tunnel should be deported ASAP without exception ,to send a clear signal to the others that forcing your way into the uk by illegal means will get you no where and the same should also apply to all those found on-board lorries that have entered the uk, if no papers, deport to last EU country so Spain, France, Belgium, Holland being the most likely, deport to which ever port they came from, we could even charge the port /train a levy to cover the associated costs
But the lack of any evidence of this happening in the real world is adding to the problem at calais, tough love now or possible all out war later

[carryfast]

Juddian:
There’s a reason Britain stayed free, an island is easy to defend if you have a Navy worth its name, have to be a hell of a bloody swimmer to get here without a boat.

It’s a shame that Harold didn’t have a good navy in 1066 waiting in the right place at the right time.Or at least a decent mine field.

[dolph]

tommy t:

Carryfast:

bestbooties:

tommy t:
Well Euro tunnel has been stuffed again currently a 6 hour delay due to illegals yet again, they may as well close the crappy tunnel

Worse thing ever was to build the [zb] tunnel, there must be a plug somewhere that can be pulled?

Maybe a big pneumatic drill and a lot of air hose a boat with a compressor and some diving gear would do it.But that would be considered a terrorist attack and the forces would be on the scene in minutes.

Shame the same forces aren’t on the scene at all to stop them walking through the tunnel, but no soft touch ukplc couldn’t give a crap, they should have a 24/7 armed guard on the French side , or every single one of them that makes it through the tunnel should be deported ASAP without exception ,to send a clear signal to the others that forcing your way into the uk by illegal means will get you no where and the same should also apply to all those found on-board lorries that have entered the uk, if no papers, deport to last EU country so Spain, France, Belgium, Holland being the most likely, deport to which ever port they came from, we could even charge the port /train a levy to cover the associated costs
But the lack of any evidence of this happening in the real world is adding to the problem at calais, tough love now or possible all out war later

Thats the main problem, illegals see they are not deported or jailed in western EU so they don’t stop. And soon Calais might see even more illegals.

Bulgarian authorities detained on Wednesday 43 illegal immigrants at the dam near the village of Topolyane, located in the municipality of Radnevo. None of them was in the possession of identity documents and they identified themselves as refugees coming from Afghanistan and Pakistan. All of the illegal immigrants were men, aged between 18 and 35 years and there were four minors among them, private bTV station informs.
See more at: novinite.com/articles/171447 … vcFrx.dpuf

This morning in police operation 30 illegals were arrested in Sofia and 14 in Burgas, all of them heading to the West EU.

P.S. All of the above will remain in custody until being granted refugee status or deported.

[gazsa401]

Dolph:

tommy t:

Carryfast:

bestbooties:

tommy t:
Well Euro tunnel has been stuffed again currently a 6 hour delay due to illegals yet again, they may as well close the crappy tunnel

Worse thing ever was to build the [zb] tunnel, there must be a plug somewhere that can be pulled?

Maybe a big pneumatic drill and a lot of air hose a boat with a compressor and some diving gear would do it.But that would be considered a terrorist attack and the forces would be on the scene in minutes.

Shame the same forces aren’t on the scene at all to stop them walking through the tunnel, but no soft touch ukplc couldn’t give a crap, they should have a 24/7 armed guard on the French side , or every single one of them that makes it through the tunnel should be deported ASAP without exception ,to send a clear signal to the others that forcing your way into the uk by illegal means will get you no where and the same should also apply to all those found on-board lorries that have entered the uk, if no papers, deport to last EU country so Spain, France, Belgium, Holland being the most likely, deport to which ever port they came from, we could even charge the port /train a levy to cover the associated costs
But the lack of any evidence of this happening in the real world is adding to the problem at calais, tough love now or possible all out war later

Thats the main problem, illegals see they are not deported or jailed in western EU so they don’t stop. And soon Calais might see even more illegals.

Bulgarian authorities detained on Wednesday 43 illegal immigrants at the dam near the village of Topolyane, located in the municipality of Radnevo. None of them was in the possession of identity documents and they identified themselves as refugees coming from Afghanistan and Pakistan. All of the illegal immigrants were men, aged between 18 and 35 years and there were four minors among them, private bTV station informs.
See more at: novinite.com/articles/171447 … vcFrx.dpuf

This morning in police operation 30 illegals were arrested in Sofia and 14 in Burgas, all of them heading to the West EU.

P.S. All of the above will remain in custody until being granted refugee status or deported.

Just watching the BBC Daily Politics show with the ex Greek prime minister as chief guest
It blows a massive hole in your pro EU propaganda ■■■■■■■■
I’ve never seen or heard a honest politician say how it is within the EU zone
It’s amazing when somebody can speak without Adolf Merkel twisting his arm and he can speak openly and freely how much the kraut ■■■■■ as the EU under one of her jackboots
And Dolph I’ll be posting this on all the topics you’ve hijacked with your pro EU bile

[raymundo]

It’s quite understandable why Dolph is pro the EU, it’s paid for him to leave the medieval days and join the 21st century, same as Romania and the rest while pushing us backwards in time.

[driver-once-more]

They’ll try to get to the EU anyway they can

bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34602208

[carryfast]

gazsa401:

Dolph:
Thats the main problem, illegals see they are not deported or jailed in western EU so they don’t stop. And soon Calais might see even more illegals.

Bulgarian authorities detained on Wednesday 43 illegal immigrants at the dam near the village of Topolyane, located in the municipality of Radnevo. None of them was in the possession of identity documents and they identified themselves as refugees coming from Afghanistan and Pakistan. All of the illegal immigrants were men, aged between 18 and 35 years and there were four minors among them, private bTV station informs.
See more at: novinite.com/articles/171447 … vcFrx.dpuf

This morning in police operation 30 illegals were arrested in Sofia and 14 in Burgas, all of them heading to the West EU.

P.S. All of the above will remain in custody until being granted refugee status or deported.

Just watching the BBC Daily Politics show with the ex Greek prime minister as chief guest
It blows a massive hole in your pro EU propaganda [zb]
I’ve never seen or heard a honest politician say how it is within the EU zone
It’s amazing when somebody can speak without Adolf Merkel twisting his arm and he can speak openly and freely how much the kraut ■■■■■ as the EU under one of her jackboots
And Dolph I’ll be posting this on all the topics you’ve hijacked with your pro EU bile

Exactly Merkel is setting the agenda and now we hear that they’ve got a route directly from the Middle East through Russia into Norway.In which it’s obvious that the Russians are actively helping them.While Norway is just letting them walk in,on the basis of calling an obvious invasion,‘asylum’.No doubt because that’s what Stasi agent Merkel has told them they must do on the basis that even non EU members have to tow the line or she’ll hit them with sanctions.Or maybe the Scandinavian Socialist alliance is actually ‘in’ on the plan.On that note their might have been some logic in Brevik’s madness.

wsj.com/articles/syrian-refu … 1441273767

So we’ve got bleeding heart appeasement for whatever reason of,or even possible collusion in,an obvious Stasi plan to destabilise north western Europe with a Stasi friendly invasion force that’s just being allowed to walk in.

Having known the Socialist ideology of infiltration the facts concerning Merkel’s Socialist grip on the EU and obvious western collusion in the rise of Communist China the situation as it stands goes beyond those wildest dreams.

[carryfast]

Driver-Once-More:
They’ll try to get to the EU anyway they can

bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34602208

[dolph]

gazsa401:
Just watching the BBC Daily Politics show with the ex Greek prime minister as chief guest
It blows a massive hole in your pro EU propaganda [zb]
I’ve never seen or heard a honest politician say how it is within the EU zone
It’s amazing when somebody can speak without Adolf Merkel twisting his arm and he can speak openly and freely how much the kraut ■■■■■ as the EU under one of her jackboots
And Dolph I’ll be posting this on all the topics you’ve hijacked with your pro EU bile

Blows a hole my a$$, Greece should have been left to bankrupt and not left to twist EU hands every 4-5years for the past 30 ought years. Greece is the worst example to use when talking about EU.
People lived like Tsars in Greece and we are all paying for it.

thepeakeffect.com/2011/10/gr … nuses.html
thestar.com/business/2010/04 … _work.html