Yet more aid going to those fake refugees at calais

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boredwivdrivin:

tommy t:
Well the petition against immigration was debated yesterday in parliament, what a waste of time when they are all pro immigration socialists who don’t have a clue what is really going on, with the bunch of morons running the show we are doomed

My comments above were originally addressed at this gentleman who was talking about ‘parliament’ meaning England/Britain and being ‘pro immigrant SOCIALISTS’

My point was they are pro immigrant LIBERALS .

I think that is the case . And it is the case that Liberals have caused our current woes .

The wider argument about socialism / nationalism is irrelevant to us here now

Our predicament is/was caused by liberals : Thatcher , Major , Blair , Brown and Cameron and their respective administrations . ( i have not included Heath or Wilson as they are Not responsible for out current woes, and may not have been liberals)

They are all guilty , to greater or lesser extent , for signing away our sovereinty with successive treaties with Euro Socialist project members .

And they are all liberals

I bet that woman with her caravans is not actually a socialist . she is a bloody liberal .

The people who want everything to be nice and soft and fluffy and safe …

Forgetting that forces greater than liberalism or socialism mean actually we must feel pain and suffer …

Evolution and Mother Nature .

And evolution tells us if the bums in calais have moved beyond their source of food and water they will die .

Survival of fittest means they have not been good enough to survive , and their weak genes have been irradicated .

The liberals will want to stop this happening . fiddle with mother nature at your peril

As Juddian said Heath is among the same treasonous lot as all the rest of the Federalist/Socialist pro EU lot.As for the idea of the red herring of liberalism then explain exactly which Socialist group is it that is supposedly anti immigration and anti EU in your view. :confused: Bearing in mind that having been there and a supporter of the out campaign in 1975,as I’ve said Shore,Benn and Heffer all arguably went through a shift towards a more nationalist tendency in political outlook than a Socialist one.It’s just that,as I’ve said at least Benn and Heffer didn’t realise it.While Shore arguably did.

independent.co.uk/news/obitu … 04257.html

As for the idea of natural selection you’re again taking an arguable viewpoint that sits on the borderlines between Nationalism v Socialism ( ■■■■ ).In which case the view of charity begins and stays at home and let em look after themselves and if they can’t make a go of it because they aren’t good enough tough,is a justified nationalist view.Which I agree with.

As opposed to the view we must use the riches gained by our our superior know how and efforts to provide for them or bring them all to live here among us to share our better fortune,or they are unter menchen who should be enslaved or exterminated.Both of those outlooks are what defines a Socialist view. :bulb:

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meanwhile the British air base in Cyprus has what are thought to be two boats full of Syrians landing on the shores nearby, which is said to be British sovereign land. so they are looking for other ways to exploit their invasion, They have to refuse them asylum in the uk , or that will leave them open to the swarms of them

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raymundo:
Just learned about a so called charity called CaravansforCalais, some misguided woman from Scotland was going on about the need for at least 1000 old caravans to be in Calais before Xmas to keep the poor poor would be illegal immigrants warm and dry and she was/is going to take her old one across. Why Xmas ? they don’t celebrate it ! Bet the locals in Calais approve of that idea.

Why waste time and fuel and money towing clapped out wobble boxes over there ,when a dose or two of napalm would keep them warm , and rid calais of the problem?

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tommy t:
meanwhile the British air base in Cyprus has what are thought to be two boats full of Syrians landing on the shores nearby, which is said to be British sovereign land. so they are looking for other ways to exploit their invasion, They have to refuse them asylum in the uk , or that will leave them open to the swarms of them

No doubt Cameron and his pro immigration allies will try to re write history to show that Cyprus hasn’t been an independent state since 1960 after a 4 year war with us.While telling us that our remaining sovereign military bases are unguarded to the point where anyone can just walk in to them.On that note why would there be no guarded border inside the shoreline. :unamused:

More like Cameron wants to open up a route to maximise the cheap labour opportunities of open door Asian immigration in every way possible.

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Carryfast:

tommy t:
meanwhile the British air base in Cyprus has what are thought to be two boats full of Syrians landing on the shores nearby, which is said to be British sovereign land. so they are looking for other ways to exploit their invasion, They have to refuse them asylum in the uk , or that will leave them open to the swarms of them

No doubt Cameron and his pro immigration allies will try to re write history to show that Cyprus hasn’t been an independent state since 1960 after a 4 year war with us.While telling us that our remaining sovereign military bases are unguarded to the point where anyone can just walk in to them.On that note why would there be no guarded border inside the shoreline. :unamused:

More like Cameron wants to open up a route to maximise the cheap labour opportunities of open door Asian immigration in every way possible.

Well when they flood the uk , take all the social housing , and camercon makes more cuts , the people will riot and lots of the invaders will be taken out because it will happen more and more people are through with this forced multiculturalism where they live, they don’t want change , and at some point will grow a pair and become a modern day KKK that’s what i see happening if they don’t raise the drawbridge and stop this flow of people, this type of action is the only way this deaf deluded cretins in government will listen to the people, and for once in their sad lives do what the people want they after all are supposed to work for us

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boredwivdrivin:
Well i bow to your greater knowledge and include Heath too . but from memory i thought he genuinely thought he was joining a trading union , which on its own would have been a good thing . but as i say i bow to your greater knowledge , and chuck the old pervert into the liberal cess pit too .

However i dont understand why you say Merkel has broken european law by encouraging immigration ■■?

Sorry should have explained better, Its european union law that an asylum seeker should lodge their claim for asylum in the first country they arrive in, Merkel by passed that by inviting any Syrian that could get there straight to Germany, hence the mass movements of hundreds of thousands of all sorts, passport less claiming to be from Syria, via the various routes to get there.

Imagine the hue and cry if we wanted to make the rules up as we went along.

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tommy t:

Carryfast:
More like Cameron wants to open up a route to maximise the cheap labour opportunities of open door Asian immigration in every way possible.

Well when they flood the uk , take all the social housing , and camercon makes more cuts , the people will riot and lots of the invaders will be taken out because it will happen more and more people are through with this forced multiculturalism where they live, they don’t want change , and at some point will grow a pair and become a modern day KKK that’s what i see happening if they don’t raise the drawbridge and stop this flow of people, this type of action is the only way this deaf deluded cretins in government will listen to the people, and for once in their sad lives do what the people want they after all are supposed to work for us

Unfortunately when democracy fails then history suggests it can all go pear shaped quickly.I’d guess that we’re a long way from that point at least until/unless the invading population confirms the worst fears of turning into an armed hostile trojan horse.Or the government resorts to forced integration which makes the idea of ‘white flight’ an illegal race ‘crime’ and large scale forced evictions of the indigenous population to ‘make room’ for the unsustainable rate of immigration.Which then leaves the question of the change in demographics which destabilises society past the tipping point whereby the indigenous population becomes a foreign ethnic minority in large parts of the country.

While the government’s appeasement of the obvious intentions of China are even more worrying.Which can only lead to a situation in which we provide them with food and farmland and property in exchange for stuff we can make for ourselves.Probably eventually turning into them taking whatever they want as ‘payment’ at the point of a gun. :open_mouth: :frowning:

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Juddian:

boredwivdrivin:
Well i bow to your greater knowledge and include Heath too . but from memory i thought he genuinely thought he was joining a trading union , which on its own would have been a good thing . but as i say i bow to your greater knowledge , and chuck the old pervert into the liberal cess pit too .

However i dont understand why you say Merkel has broken european law by encouraging immigration ■■?

Sorry should have explained better, Its european union law that an asylum seeker should lodge their claim for asylum in the first country they arrive in, Merkel by passed that by inviting any Syrian that could get there straight to Germany, hence the mass movements of hundreds of thousands of all sorts, passport less claiming to be from Syria, via the various routes to get there.

Imagine the hue and cry if we wanted to make the rules up as we went along.

It seems obvious that we wouldn’t need to accept any ‘asylum seekers’ using any land route to get here ‘if’ our government had supposedly been following the so called ‘rules’ in that regard.The UK government is very good at making the pretence that it isn’t following Merkel’s ideas.

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Its not only Merkel who is in love with illegals, some German NGO’s idiots love them as well. Last year they said they will cut the fence between Bulgaria and Turkey in “art performance” in order to secure safe passage for refugees :unamused:
A year later the NGO are nowhere to be found and EU is flooded with illegals…

novinite.com/articles/164640 … rder+Fence - news
demotix.com/news/6233442/ger … ia-6233038 - pictures
youtube.com/watch?v=R-4xEHA61jI

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Dolph:
Its not only Merkel who is in love with illegals, some German NGO’s idiots love them as well. Last year they said they will cut the fence between Bulgaria and Turkey in “art performance” in order to secure safe passage for refugees :unamused:
A year later the NGO are nowhere to be found and EU is flooded with illegals…

novinite.com/articles/164640 … rder+Fence - news
demotix.com/news/6233442/ger … ia-6233038 - pictures
youtube.com/watch?v=R-4xEHA61jI

It seems clear that there is a link between Merkel and the old East German Stasi and it’s a fair bet that the ‘NGO alliance’ has some links with the same agenda.Bearing in mind this is the same agenda that armed the Arabs to the teeth in order to wipe Israel off the map.IE they don’t like the idea of the nation state and will do whatever it takes to destroy it.While you continue to talk like a Nationalist.But then play into the hands of the Socialists by following their Federalist agenda of not only no borders between Asia and Europe but also none within Europe itself.IE there is no selective mix and match in the idea of friends with fences or fences for security.In which case at face value go for it Bulgaria and Hungary do whatever it takes to stop these zb’s.But don’t then use double standards regards the idea of the nation state and national borders within Europe.While on that note what the zb is Slovenia and Croatia and Serbia doing by not helping you. :bulb:

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Carryfast:
It seems clear that there is a link between Merkel and the old East German Stasi and it’s a fair bet that the ‘NGO alliance’ has some links with the same agenda.

I agree with this.

A fair few German colleagues I work with have stated exactly the above - the Stasi link. In fact they have detailed some of their doubts. She as a student was allowed to cross the border to be interviewed and be involved in processes outside of East Germany, during times of the Iron Curtain. A colleague from Berlin stated how impossible this was during those times unless you had help and authority from those in power. Students especially, as they were most seen risky. Intelligent young minds full of opinion and expression.

The German guys I spoke to also said that when she was interviewed on German TV about that past she responded that she had no recollection of that period.

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Dolph , im not sure wot good a fence between bulgari and turkey is meant to do us !!

Thats 2 backsheesh nations !!

And if this chocolate barricade somehow succeeds in its function wots to stop em using the black sea ? Or med ? Or Greece ■■

The only way to stop them is to have proper controls in and out of this country .

And use it to stop the turk/bulg/ukraine/romaine/syrian/polish brigades from entering

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Well Euro tunnel has been stuffed again currently a 6 hour delay due to illegals yet again, they may as well close the crappy tunnel

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boredwivdrivin:
Dolph , im not sure wot good a fence between bulgari and turkey is meant to do us !!

Thats 2 backsheesh nations !!

And if this chocolate barricade somehow succeeds in its function wots to stop em using the black sea ? Or med ? Or Greece ■■

The only way to stop them is to have proper controls in and out of this country .

And use it to stop the turk/bulg/ukraine/romaine/syrian/polish brigades from entering

Get all the Afghani you want then, I got it, you don’t like us enough with the racist agenda East vs West…

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Carryfast:

Dolph:
Its not only Merkel who is in love with illegals, some German NGO’s idiots love them as well. Last year they said they will cut the fence between Bulgaria and Turkey in “art performance” in order to secure safe passage for refugees :unamused:
A year later the NGO are nowhere to be found and EU is flooded with illegals…

novinite.com/articles/164640 … rder+Fence - news
demotix.com/news/6233442/ger … ia-6233038 - pictures
youtube.com/watch?v=R-4xEHA61jI

It seems clear that there is a link between Merkel and the old East German Stasi and it’s a fair bet that the ‘NGO alliance’ has some links with the same agenda.Bearing in mind this is the same agenda that armed the Arabs to the teeth in order to wipe Israel off the map.IE they don’t like the idea of the nation state and will do whatever it takes to destroy it.While you continue to talk like a Nationalist.But then play into the hands of the Socialists by following their Federalist agenda of not only no borders between Asia and Europe but also none within Europe itself.IE there is no selective mix and match in the idea of friends with fences or fences for security.In which case at face value go for it Bulgaria and Hungary do whatever it takes to stop these zb’s.But don’t then use double standards regards the idea of the nation state and national borders within Europe.While on that note what the zb is Slovenia and Croatia and Serbia doing by not helping you. :bulb:

What is stopping you from controlling your borders? You are not in schengen after all.
And yes you cant discriminate EU citizens, either all(regardless of the country of origin) or non as long as you are in the union.

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What a marvellous idea “Caravans for Calais” is; Convert thousands of fake asylum seekers into ■■■■■. :unamused:

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Dolph:

Carryfast:

Dolph:
Its not only Merkel who is in love with illegals, some German NGO’s idiots love them as well. Last year they said they will cut the fence between Bulgaria and Turkey in “art performance” in order to secure safe passage for refugees :unamused:
A year later the NGO are nowhere to be found and EU is flooded with illegals…

novinite.com/articles/164640 … rder+Fence - news
demotix.com/news/6233442/ger … ia-6233038 - pictures
youtube.com/watch?v=R-4xEHA61jI

It seems clear that there is a link between Merkel and the old East German Stasi and it’s a fair bet that the ‘NGO alliance’ has some links with the same agenda.Bearing in mind this is the same agenda that armed the Arabs to the teeth in order to wipe Israel off the map.IE they don’t like the idea of the nation state and will do whatever it takes to destroy it.While you continue to talk like a Nationalist.But then play into the hands of the Socialists by following their Federalist agenda of not only no borders between Asia and Europe but also none within Europe itself.IE there is no selective mix and match in the idea of friends with fences or fences for security.In which case at face value go for it Bulgaria and Hungary do whatever it takes to stop these zb’s.But don’t then use double standards regards the idea of the nation state and national borders within Europe.While on that note what the zb is Slovenia and Croatia and Serbia doing by not helping you. :bulb:

What is stopping you from controlling your borders? You are not in schengen after all.
And yes you cant discriminate EU citizens, either all(regardless of the country of origin) or non as long as you are in the union.

Schengen isn’t going to make a scrap of difference when the fuhrer grants them EU passports, go where they like then.
Does as she likes anyway and no one dare utter a word, wasnt there some geezer like that lurking around Germany in the 30’s and 40’s similarly feared/revered/worshipped/hated?

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And now the French are giving them heated tents!

bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34600107

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Driver-Once-More:
And now the French are giving them heated tents!

bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34600107

No wonder illegals are heading west. Germany said they are welcome, France is giving them heated tents, UK private jets and limos and benefits of all sorts :grimacing: :grimacing:

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There must be something being put in the water at the schools and unversities the leaders and apparactchiks of the northern european countries attended, unless they are all being paid so much (Judas to a man) that they will do whatever is required to further this strange self destructive route.
Why would a continent attempt to destroy itself and all it worked for and the future of its own people.
I hope the Hungarians and a few others hold firm, they are our last line of defence.

High time all our dwindling armed forces were recalled and charged with defending this country (which is their real job), stationing a few hundred paras at the tunnel entrance with orders to do as required would be a start.