Would you 'undertake'?

shuttlespanker:

ROG:
Please find the LAW that says it is illegal

this do ya?

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Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

ROFLMAO. Posts something he thinks says not to do it, part quoted which he doesn’t highlight in red says you can in certain circumstances.

Not the brightest bulb in the pack are you?

ROG:

shuttlespanker:
if you are in lane 2 and come up behind ROG in lane 2 doing 50mph, it is illegal to change to lane 1, undertake, then move back out

No it is not = that is FACT

FFS ROG, READ THE HIGHWAY CODE!!!

there have been 3 (three) separate points stating that you DO NOT OVERTAKE ON THE LEFT!!!

shuttlespanker:
since the police use this for prosecuting, it is near enough law

“Near enough law” is not law.

The Police when prosecuting someone will never ever ever state “Under rule ■■■ of the Highway Code”. They quote either the Road Traffic Act or the Construction and Use regulations.

Until you can come back with the part of the Road Traffic Act that states it, you’ve proven nothing other than what is “best practice”.

Conor:

shuttlespanker:

ROG:
Please find the LAW that says it is illegal

this do ya?

268

Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

ROFLMAO. Posts something he thinks says not to do it, part quoted which he doesn’t highlight in red says you can in certain circumstances.

Not the brightest bulb in the pack are you?

are you from the ROG school of motoring?

if you read it correctly, there is a full stop at the end of the first highlighted part

enlarged and colour changed just for you :wink:

the part where is says about passing on the left is referring to heavily congested traffic conditions

i may not be the brightest bulb in the pack, but, at least i haven’t had a total power cut :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

shuttlespanker:
FFS ROG, READ THE HIGHWAY CODE!!!

there have been 3 (three) separate points stating that you DO NOT OVERTAKE ON THE LEFT!!!

The Highway Code is not law. The Highway Code is a book which serves as a guide for motorists about best practices for driving. It carries no weight in law, it cannot be used by either the prosecution or defence as an authoratitive document.

The ROAD TRAFFIC ACT is the law and you have yet to quote the Road Traffic Act.

shuttlespanker:

Conor:

shuttlespanker:

ROG:
Please find the LAW that says it is illegal

this do ya?

268

Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

ROFLMAO. Posts something he thinks says not to do it, part quoted which he doesn’t highlight in red says you can in certain circumstances.

Not the brightest bulb in the pack are you?

are you from the ROG school of motoring?

if you read it correctly, there is a full stop at the end of the first highlighted part

enlarged and colour changed just for you :wink:

the part where is says about passing on the left is referring to heavily congested traffic conditions

i may not be the brightest bulb in the pack, but, at least i haven’t had a total power cut :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

That is from the Highway Code. That is not from the Road Traffic Act. Therefore it has no relevance in law.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undertaking_(driving

How about discretion :astonished: :astonished:

I find myself doing it daily but I’m still in a van. (Stupid theory test, 3rd time lucky hey)
My vans limited to 62mph, however there’s always 1 who dawdles along in the middle lane at 55-60 mph whilst the left hand lane is clear for miles. I’m not risking pulling across 3 lanes avoiding loons bombing down at 70mph plus to pull back across 3 lanes.

The HC is a simple guide but is not LAW but if something in it is law then it will refer to that law

bluestew:
I find myself doing it daily but I’m still in a van. (Stupid theory test, 3rd time lucky hey)
My vans limited to 62mph, however there’s always 1 who dawdles along in the middle lane at 55-60 mph whilst the left hand lane is clear for miles. I’m not risking pulling across 3 lanes avoiding loons bombing down at 70mph plus to pull back across 3 lanes.

With a speed limited van you would be illegal to use the outer lane of a motorway of more than 2 lanes - I am fairly certain of that but am open to being corrected

Their seems to be quite a knowledge gap, but not to worry I’m quite sure all these points will be comprehensively covered in the D.C.P.C.

Also illegal to overtake in the 3rd lane if towing. Any thoughts on this ROG? :wink:

cupidstunt:
Also illegal to overtake in the 3rd lane if towing. Any thoughts on this ROG? :wink:

That’s a clear law.

Undertaking has two different definitions, one legal and one illegal.

It’s ironic that loads of people can’t handle being passed by traffic on the nearside but then miraculously adapt (because they have to) when they take the car or truck abroad where not only will they be passed by traffic on the left most of the time but most foreign drivers don’t give a zb about which side they overtake on anyway if someone isn’t sensible enough to use correct lane discipline.

Isnt the highway code treated like the safe loading code… if you ignore best practice then your liable to get put your **** on the block?

Carryfast:
It’s ironic that loads of people can’t handle being passed by traffic on the nearside but then miraculously adapt (because they have to) when they take the car or truck abroad where not only will they be passed by traffic on the left most of the time but most foreign drivers don’t give a zb about which side they overtake on anyway if someone isn’t sensible enough to use correct lane discipline.

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ajt:

cupidstunt:
Also illegal to overtake in the 3rd lane if towing. Any thoughts on this ROG? :wink:

That’s a clear law.

Undertaking has two different definitions, one legal and one illegal.

I am aware of that thanks. Maybe it was a bit cryptic but I was referring to this;ROG............ whats your answer - THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE) - Trucknet UK :grimacing:

i watched one of those police programs recently where the traffic cop was following a chav in a clio and when the chav went to lane 1 on a dual carriageway to pass a slow car in lane 2 the cop said “oh yes…here we go…driving without due care and attention”

xamtex:
i watched one of those police programs recently where the traffic cop was following a chav in a clio and when the chav went to lane 1 on a dual carriageway to pass a slow car in lane 2 the cop said “oh yes…here we go…driving without due care and attention”

Referring to which car - if it was the one in lane 2 then they were correct in doing so