Would you stop out on a Friday to run in Sat morning?

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OllieNotts:
I never said it was a bad job I said the pay was bad. Nor have I said I’m unwilling to work weekends nice way of trying to twist what I said though.
I have never met any one who would spend the night away for 10-15 quid after tax the standards must be low for anyone to accept that is ok.

You’re on time + half after 48hrs, and you’re upto 62hrs…

So, you’re gonna get £20 tax free - they can’t tax night out money + at least 1.5 - 2hrs @ 10.72 = say another 20 quid pre tax…

And, as said, assuming you’ve got a 9hr left, you can be back before the kids are out of bed and not be worrying about having a job on Monday.

I work most Saturdays runnin’ in, we’re guarenteed 5hrs pay, but we’re also expected to do 5hrs if asked, so if I’m 1hr from base and I run in, they can have me setting up for the next 4hrs, or send me home and pay me 5hrs + night out money.

It certainly does add up, and when you add that to the fact that your wages this week were 493 top line, is it worth losing your job over?

It’s not a matter of whether it’s worth it for the money, if it’s expected of you to keep your job, then it’s worth it full stop - until you find something better.

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Yep more than happy to do it, £20 night out and £12 an hour to run in on saturday. The further away from the yard that I have to stop the better :grimacing:

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Part and parcel of my job. If it’s part of the run…We stay out. Get different days off in the week.

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OllieNotts:
Night out money isn’t classed as wages though, So 20 quid at the most minus tax is 15 quid at the most. Not enough in my opinion :wink:

Night out money is still accepted in shops and you wouldn’t have got if you had got home Friday.

Really only you can answer the question.
Are you in a position to kick up a bit of a fuss and keep your job or be able to walk into another job that pays better and doesn’t mean working weekends?
If you are then complain, if you not then accept it until you find something better.

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I was in similar position about the money in my job before last as a car sprayer, I started off at the company they trained me up so I was spraying cars doing full resprays for about 2years never once did my money go up I was stuck on a low wage of £7hr for a good 5years. I was earning the company alot of money from what I was doing (I was in with one of the managers how I got to hear things), they were getting alot of moey for the repairs as they have a huge contract but never once did they offer me a pay rise.
The boss (director) wanted me to use my own time on Saturdays to spray vintage bikes of his, me being me I did it on and off for couple of years never got aything out of it apart from my £7hr for 2-4hours work. In fact if for some reason I didnt go in on a saturday he would look down at me, and when I did go in I still got no respect all I got was you need to spray quicker all you boys in here need to and theres going to be changes etc. I went in office asked for a pay rise a few times and all I got was we havent got enough money to give you one, then later on they took on a new sprayer and paid him £10.70hr there excuse was he was much older and experienced at 50years old. Still dosnt account for the 5years I was there and me going in every, or most saturdays when most others didnt and the few weeks i worked 8am to 10pm with no over-time. In the end I walked out told another manager who made my life hell for years what he really was :unamused: and to treat the other lads better too as everyone worked really hard there, and I stated how I was treated like [zb]

My point is no matter what you do you will always be looked down on, and you will never be offered anything more then you are on now unless your one of the lucky ones. It sounds like you have similar thoughts to what I did with the money so you just got to bite your tongue and look for another job, you got to do it for yourself and family or you will just be a grumpy git like I was and lose it oneday :laughing: Lifes been really hard since but I still have no regrets apart from not having another job lined up, word of advise just stay calm and keep it until you find better

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Been thinking about this.

Given the time of year and the job market why not run in on the Saturday and then spend the £15 - £20 and what’s left of your night out money doing something with, or treating, your wife and daughter. Something you don’t normally do or haven’t done for a while, it doesn’t need to be an expensive thing. The money for running in and part of the night out money will be spare money because you won’t have it if you don’t do the run so obviously isn’t required for everyday stuff. That way you don’t rock the boat at work, you can save that little task for a more appropriate time when it suits you and are less likely to cut of your nose to spite your face, and you will use the money for some quality time with your family and possibly have a nice memory or two as a result.

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Coffeeholic:
Been thinking about this.

Given the time of year and the job market why not run in on the Saturday and then spend the £15 - £20 and what’s left of your night out money doing something with, or treating, your wife and daughter. Something you don’t normally do or haven’t done for a while, it doesn’t need to be an expensive thing. The money for running in and part of the night out money will be spare money because you won’t have it if you don’t do the run so obviously isn’t required for everyday stuff. That way you don’t rock the boat at work, you can save that little task for a more appropriate time when it suits you and are less likely to cut of your nose to spite your face, and you will use the money for some quality time with your family and possibly have a nice memory or two as a result.

that’s my outlook on it too. or the money fills the car up, or buys nice wee bar meal on saturday after you finish.

I’d rather run in sat morn for a few extra quid than dragging my backside home after my daughter is in bed.

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Thee is a job advertised up here 7.5t driver digi card ADR EU experience £6.5 ph no overtime £20 night out

Now they are also expected at times to run in on a sat simple, If you do run in on a sat mor you still require 45 off so that can be added to the sun that you will have time with family that you wouldnt normally have but always remember that it is not the quantity but the quality of time

Like has been said use the money to have some quality time by going out somewhere you wouldnt normally

Yes I have ran back in on a sat mor for less than that

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Been thinking about this while the coffee brewed, I haven’t drunk it yet, so a sensible reply cannot be guaranteed :laughing:

I think that there are many factors involved, from the bosses perspective, I can see why he doesn’t want to pay a guaranteed amount of hours, why would he want to pay you 8hrs when you’re only going to work 1 or 2, after all you wouldn’t want it the other way around where you worked 8 but got paid for 1 or 2 would you :bulb:

Now, from a driver’s point of view, working 1 or 2 hrs is a PITA, you still have to get up at silly o’clock, doing that to earn a day’s money is bad enough, but who wants to get up early for 20quid or so, however there is also night out money to be added to it, you say that night out money is not wages, I never understand that myself, it’s money, you get paid it by the firm, it goes in the bank at the same time as ‘wages’ and 20 quid night out money buys exactly the same as 20 quid in wages, yes I know it’s supposed to compensate you for having to buy food and drinks whilst you’re away from home, but do you not spend money from your wages on food and drink if you don’t have nights out, we all have to eat, even if you take stuff with you, it gets paid for by your wages :bulb:

So after all that, I’d run in on a Saturday, I’d miss the Friday night mayhem on the roads, have a nice poodle up the road and not worry about it, if I can have nights out during the week, then the odd Friday night here and there wouldn’t hurt too much, if it became a regular thing I’d see the boss man and negotiate a better wage for it, maybe using my willingness to do a job that nobody likes as a way to make my life easier, if he knows he can rely on you to do that Friday night job, it may get you jobs that get you home more in the week for example :bulb:

Anyway, this would not be an issue if Truckworld was still open, strippers and beer, who cared if you got paid for staying out or not :laughing:

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Transalliance GBE expected us to run in on a Saturday, that is why my second home was Ashford on a Friday night, some of the lads stayed in France just to get the continental allowance over the UK subsistence.

When I started work, every driver had to work Saturday morning to wash down, grease up and knock the brakes up while everybody mucked in with transhipping or roping. When that was done, the boss wandered round with the wage packets. I imagine Bewick did a similar thing.

I also remember the bosses wife made bacon sandwiches for everyone in the yard, that was an incentive to get your arse out of bed if you were running in :slight_smile:

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No sane, sensible employer reading ollienotts posts on trucknet woud touch this guy with a barge pole… £7.15ph? i wudnae pay him min wage…

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It’s part of the life for a truck driver if you don’t like, it best leave and find a nice 9 to 5 job that gives you the tome at home you want.
I’m guessing your boss will fill your job a lot quicker than you’ll find a new job.

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Mr B:
It’s part of the life for a truck driver if you don’t like, it best leave and find a nice 9 to 5 job that gives you the tome at home you want.
I’m guessing your boss will fill your job a lot quicker than you’ll find a new job.

same here part and part of the job . best bet go stacking shelves you will be home every night then ,

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sean g:

Mr B:
It’s part of the life for a truck driver if you don’t like, it best leave and find a nice 9 to 5 job that gives you the tome at home you want.
I’m guessing your boss will fill your job a lot quicker than you’ll find a new job.

same here part and part of the job . best bet go stacking shelves you will be home every night then ,

What is it with all these so called lorry drivers got to be home by a certain time these days ?

Over the years i have shipped out & home(as have many other " drivers ") on whatever day of the week the job requires,as for running in on a Saturday can’t see what the problem is & why people need to share that info.If you get your breaks in & do not run over your hours surely thats all part of being a lorry driver,not just collecting a pay packet @ the end of the week/month.

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call me old fashioned but for me Friday night is in the pub with me mates and all of us unwinding and moaning about the week weve had.

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Will:

sean g:

Mr B:
It’s part of the life for a truck driver if you don’t like, it best leave and find a nice 9 to 5 job that gives you the tome at home you want.
I’m guessing your boss will fill your job a lot quicker than you’ll find a new job.

same here part and part of the job . best bet go stacking shelves you will be home every night then ,

What is it with all these so called lorry drivers got to be home by a certain time these days ?

Over the years i have shipped out & home(as have many other " drivers ") on whatever day of the week the job requires,as for running in on a Saturday can’t see what the problem is & why people need to share that info.If you get your breaks in & do not run over your hours surely thats all part of being a lorry driver,not just collecting a pay packet @ the end of the week/month.

I think for some people weekends are important while others, such as your self not so. Personally I have working days and non working days and what days of the week they happen to be doesn’t make any difference to me. I have never made a big deal about weekends probably because in the jobs I have had in the last 30 odd years, this industry and the catering trade, I worked a lot of the time on Saturdays and Sundays. I started work Monday this week and my ‘weekend’ this week is today and tomorrow. I am shipping out Sunday and couldn’t work today as I only have 7 hours driving left of my 90 hours so the boss had to give me today off. Having a Friday and Saturday weekend rather than the more conventional Saturday and Sunday has made no difference to what I wanted, or needed, to do and it’s still two non working days. For other people having to work on a Saturday or Sunday is a big issue, it’s horses for courses and some industries are better than others when it comes to working Saturdays and Sundays. This isn’t an ideal job for those whose weekends are sacrosanct.

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Most car dealers and salesmen have to work weekends, either work every weekend with a day off midweek or on a rota system. Doctors, Nurses and Postmen do it, what is so important about Saturday or Sunday?

The pubs open until 2300 every night, occasionally longer on Thurs to Sunday.

Agency drivers do weekends through choice as roads are quieter, some of the rates are higher and many of the H&S mafia are at home playing with children.

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running in on a sat,is preferably to me as you dont have to get out of bed soo early on a monday morn :smiley: :smiley:

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did you ever get paid by the agency that you was on for, when you abandoned the truck and caught the train home?

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OllieNotts:
Night out money isn’t classed as wages though, So 20 quid at the most minus tax is 15 quid at the most. Not enough in my opinion :wink:

you don’t get taxed on 20 quid night out money, you only get taxed if it is above 23+, can’t remember the exact figure,( somebody on here will know it,) i get 20 quid per night out, and i’m out 4 nights, and when i do a fri away, i save a 9 hour off, i set off very early sat morn and i get back to scarborough about 6 or 7 in the morning, jump on the bike, i’m home by 8, job done weekend at home, YOU WORK THIS JOB TO YOUR OWN ADVANTAGE. :slight_smile: