Would you sell a weeks holidays

if i worked for someone, then they could buy my holidays 3 weeks pay for 1 weeks holiday :grimacing:

aenema23:
Now I’m confused . Can anyone work this one out then. Where I work we have a four day shift pattern based over any seven days . We get 20 days per year holiday . If we book a full week off they book us 48 hours if we book a single day off they only book us 8 hours – is that legal?
And here’s the other slice - out of the 20 days , any four days or a whole weeks worth of holiday they book us ZERO HOURS for , is that legal also?
Thanks in advance the has been a bone of contention for a lot of us for a while now .

shouldnt it be 9.6hrs per day, im not 100% :unamused: ,thats the wifes job :laughing: :wink:

Each day you take as holiday adds 8 hours to your working time
If you take a block of 5 consecutive days then 48 hours is added to your working time

The maths don’t add up but I am sure their logic will. At least to them :confused:

I assume that the full week is worked out at 48hrs to prevent companies abusing holidays to keep that reference periods average week down to below that.

Sell my holidays - you’re having a larf! There aren’t enough of the gits as it is!

Conor:
I assume that the full week is worked out at 48hrs to prevent companies abusing holidays to keep that reference periods average week down to below that.

Exactly this.

Conor:
I assume that the full week is worked out at 48hrs to prevent companies abusing holidays to keep that reference periods average week down to below that.

Its 48 so that nobody can either benefit or be penalised. It makes it neutral.

aenema23:
Now I’m confused . Can anyone work this one out then. Where I work we have a four day shift pattern based over any seven days . We get 20 days per year holiday . If we book a full week off they book us 48 hours if we book a single day off they only book us 8 hours – is that legal?
And here’s the other slice - out of the 20 days , any four days or a whole weeks worth of holiday they book us ZERO HOURS for , is that legal also?
Thanks in advance the has been a bone of contention for a lot of us for a while now .

Yes, the 48 for the week is for the WTR. Im assuming your contracted daily hours are 8 which is why this is paid for the odd day.
If it’s a paid statutory holiday (part of the 5.6 weeks) then it should count towards your WTR hours.
The best one to answer this is probably Tachograph whos ears must burn as normally hes writing a reply as soon as I type his name.

dozy:

Darb:
I would rather buy more holidays :grimacing:

I’ve never heard of this ( buying holidays ) ,but Mrs works for Nhs and says fellow workers buy them ,I’m not sure ,I guess if I want a month off to visit family in aus then yea I might ,but I’m ok with what I’ve got to be fair

I worked for the NHS and there is no way holidays can be traded. NHS workers have better holidays, better sick pay and better pensions that almost everyone except MPs. The rules are not flexible though.

All I can think is that she is swapping shifts to get rest days added to her annual leave. A cooperative manager will allow that.

Conor:
20 days statutory minimum holiday actually came in four decades ago. It was certainly in force in the 80’s when I started working. Statutory paid holidays actually came into force in the 1930s. It was then incorporated into the WTD and increased to 5.6 weeks pro-rata. You don’t have to take it if you don’t want to however you must be given the opportunity to and there is no requirement for a firm to compensate you for unpaid holidays or roll them over to the next year although some will. You can do other jobs whilst on holiday if you want as long as your contract permits it. Being on Holiday won’t reduce your average weekly hours as its classed as a 48hr working week for the purposes of the WTD so working it elsewhere won’t affect anything.

Back then the 20 days could include the Bank Holidays so in a lot if cases people were getting just 12 days holiday. With the WTD an amendment came in during 2007 increasing it to a minimum 4.8 weeks and then in 2009 to 5,6 weeks, 28 days for someone on a 5 day week, and can still include the bank holidays but now you get at least 20 days holiday plus the Bank Holidays.

Legally the only time you can get paid for statutory leave these days is when you leave a job.

If you get 28 days the maximum you can carry forward to the next year is 8 days, unless you have been on long term sick when you can carry forward 20 days, you have to be allowed to carry them forward and cannot be paid instead.

Any days you get above the 5.6 weeks can be paid instead of taken or carried forward in addition to the 8 allowed.

I only get the statutory minimum and I’ve just sold 5 days before Xmas.
Didn’t particularly need the money and I’ve got 2 weeks off anyway.
So am I in the ā– ā– ā– ā– ?

Are unused holidays able to be carried onto & taken in the following year, or do you loose untaken holidays . And does this run with all companies from April to April. Can somebody shed some light on this for me please?

bonnie lass:
Are unused holidays able to be carried onto & taken in the following year, or do you loose untaken holidays . And does this run with all companies from April to April. Can somebody shed some light on this for me please?

In normal circumstances you can carry a maximum of 8 days forward to the next year, you cannot lose them. If you have been on the sick you can carry up to 20 days forward.

No set holiday year although most companies are either April to April or the calendar year.

One of the companies I work for uses the calendar year so I’ve started a new holiday year with them today. Another is April to April so still in the current period with them.

Coffeeholic:

bonnie lass:
Are unused holidays able to be carried onto & taken in the following year, or do you loose untaken holidays . And does this run with all companies from April to April. Can somebody shed some light on this for me please?

In normal circumstances you can carry a maximum of 8 days forward to the next year, you cannot lose them. If you have been on the sick you can carry up to 20 days forward.

No set holiday year although most companies are either April to April or the calendar year.

One of the companies I work for uses the calendar year so I’ve started a new holiday year with them today. Another is April to April so still in the current period with them.

Thank you for your reply coffeeholic , a previous place I worked went from December to December, and I haven’t been able to get a clear answer where I work, it seems nobody there has a clear knowledge of the holiday entitlement, and where it can be used. Thanks :smiley:

Coffeeholic:

Conor:
I assume that the full week is worked out at 48hrs to prevent companies abusing holidays to keep that reference periods average week down to below that.

Exactly this.

It’s insane how it seems the rules on wtd and driving hours are ultra rigid and strict then as soon as holidays and hours entitlement are involved the rules are as lax as possible !
To sell or not to sell its all ipto the individual but a choice is better than none ain’t it loyke!! :grimacing:

Our holiday year is feb-feb and we can’t roll them onto the following year. We can take unpaid holidays though mind you its a lot easier to get when it drops off after Xmas into the new year than any other time.

The company I work for holiday is from Jan - Dec we are allowed to carry 2 days over if we wish

Our holidays run from April to March and itvwas the same at the last place and tbh, I can’t for the life of me remember the last time I had any days left after New Year.

I like to be off when the weather is warm, BBQ on, beer in the fridge and the pool out for the kids.

If I could trade a 6th shift for extra holiday I would!

Also this year I’ve ALREADY taken 2 days unpaid holiday.

I just want to win the lottery then I can have a permanent holiday,i don’t ask for much in life,just 20 million will do

Not a chance