I was tipping at a steel stock place at Cullompton about a month ago, a guy was loding steel sheets on a …Pick Up 
. He roped them on sort of, I said to him that they didn’t look too safe, he said something like they will be ok. 10 mins later the lads jumped in a car after a phone call off him, to help him lift them back on, as they slipped off half a mile away on top of the M5 junction as he turned right. 
I took great pleasure in waving at him as I drove past.
The yard men said they weigh 900 kgs each, on the subject of the vehicle, it was not a panel type, it was a flat bed with side doors that are about four feet high.
It had rear doors at four feet high,a builders van , maybe Ford Transit .
He was going past a Dvsa check point on his journey, the yard manager mentioned phoning them.
nodding donkey:
Hang on, wasn’t it considered bad sport to rat on a fellow driver??I’m getting confused now…
Fellow lorry driver. Van drivers and especially coach/bus drivers don’t count.
syramax:
DAF95XF:
robroy:
How the hell can you have a flat bed van tobes??, it’s either a flat bed OR a van, it’s like saying a flat bed tautliner, you just aint trying
Erm the photo I posted a couple of hours ago kinda proves there are flat bed vans…
■■? its a pick up
Pick up is an americanism (think like a toyata hilux. Funnily enough I saw one of these being towed behind an artic the other day. Towed by a big old bedford rigid… Wish I’d got a dashcam…)
Flat bed vans do exist, as flatbeds, and also as dropsides with the sides taken off.
robroy:
DAF95XF:
robroy:
How the hell can you have a flat bed van tobes??, it’s either a flat bed OR a van, it’s like saying a flat bed tautliner, you just aint tryingErm the photo I posted a couple of hours ago kinda proves there are flat bed vans…
Erm no it kinda proves that there are flat bed pick ups, a van is a van, your photo is that of a pick up…
If I’m not mistaken that’s a VW LT van with a flat bed body, VW do make a pickup but definitely isn’t LT shaped…
The van is the body behind the cab, a chassis cab with a flatbed would be the anglicized way of saying it if you don’t approve of pickup!
This is getting me confused (either that or the Whyte & Mackay is kicking in) I thought a van was a vehicle that was built as a whole with sides, roof an back doors whereas a flat bed or pick up was a cab with headboard and flat bit behind for putting stuff on and roped securely to hold it in situ, irrespective of whether it had drop sides. Either way the bloke loading ten ton of steel slabs on a 3.5 t whatever is still a bit of a ■■■■, IF, it even happened.
err btw the way Captian62 you need an internationally agreed certificate by either the maritime or airline authorities to call yersen one o them, just sayin like 
toby1234abc:
Here was what I saw for myself, a flat bed van pulls in to a yard, they load about 7 large pieces of metal that are a few inches thick and are the dimension of the load space in the van.
They weigh about 900 kgs each.
The tyres are now looking flat with all the weight.
The rear doors on the van are down as the sheets of metal overhang by about three feet.
He has no chains or straps, the load leaves at an angle with nothing to stop it coming off, potentially killing somebody.
Call the busies or let him get on with it ?
Tobe, the time and place to do something if you feel this strongly about it has come and gone - it was when you saw it. Maybe as you were posting this on trucknet. If you’re thinking of ringing peelers ask yourself why you didn’t just mention it to him before he left? It’s not your job? Fair enough, but you obviously felt it unsafe enough to ring the Police so why would you accept a wait for them to pull him over? Bit of a quandary no?
Id only get involved to achieve the end game, to make sure someone doesn’t get hurt if I really felt a risk was there. I’m old fashioned. I don’t believe as a citizen its my duty to go crying to Police if it’s better solved there and then if its that unsafe. I couldn’t care less about making sure he got nicked. That achieves nothing for the situation and that ain’t my role in life - historical misdemeanour enforcement. Ringing the DVSA achieves nothing. Ask yourself why you would ring them? To stir up? Because the DVSA will not stop him the minute he leaves the yard. Too many touts and do gooders too fond of reporting to Mummy and Daddy like little spies yet no one takes responsibility. Particularly that idiot who appeared on radio 2 in the spring who pedals around London filming errant motorists, providing film “evidence” to the police.
A call to 101 and let the operator make the decision as to wether it warrants any intervention or not.
The police do seem to take overloading of vans quite seriously due to the dangers involved with the brakes not being up to much in a van when overloaded.
robroy:
DAF95XF:
robroy:
How the hell can you have a flat bed van tobes??, it’s either a flat bed OR a van, it’s like saying a flat bed tautliner, you just aint tryingErm the photo I posted a couple of hours ago kinda proves there are flat bed vans…
Erm no it kinda proves that there are flat bed pick ups, a van is a van, your photo is that of a pick up…
what you mean rob is a PANEL VAN, the picture is a chassic cab with a flat bed body fitted 
Think this is a van but I think he’s got a few loading problems
To some on here that’ll be a pick up with a box on the back…
Some will argue that it’s a “Luton” van
CraigM:
Some will argue that it’s a “Luton” van
whatever it is it will be an empty van if the driver doesent sort it
toby1234abc:
The yard men said they weigh 900 kgs each, on the subject of the vehicle, it was not a panel type, it was a flat bed with side doors that are about four feet high.
It had rear doors at four feet high,a builders van , maybe Ford Transit .
He was going past a Dvsa check point on his journey, the yard manager mentioned phoning them.
You’re just chatting bollox now, it’s got four foot high ‘doors’? You now know what route he’s taking and that he happens to be going past a checkpoint, and the yard manager mentioned phoning them even though it would drop him and his company in as much ■■■■!!
Bored now. 
There was one of those Motorway Interceptors programmes on last week where the police in Lincolnshire (complete with the obligatory tidy WPC) had pulled a 3.5t Sprinter on the A1 with what looked to be three full pallets of wine in the back of it… 
Latique:
Think this is a van but I think he’s got a few loading problems
thats a luton body on a chassic cab
Whats a chassic?
DAF95XF:
To some on here that’ll be a pick up with a box on the back…
Move on mate…let it go
Only on trucknet could a whole page of a thread be dedicated to a debate about whether its a van or not!