Punchy Dan:
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Carryfast:
Punchy Dan:
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It took all day in the rain to dismantle and load this and other stuff then in the evening I drove to the ferry ,next day in freezing temperatures we reassembled it all .
That outfit does look ‘awkward’ Dan it’ll win no beauty contests at least. 
As opposed to.
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Horses for courses Cf ,I’ve unloaded a dumper a bowser & pallets plus stillages of heras fencing with out unhitching.
You’d need to picture that logging trailer as a beavertail low loader and PSK capable.
It would take a tape measure to confirm it but I’d bet that prime mover load deck as shown isn’t much, if any, shorter than your trailer’s or prime mover’s multilift ?.
Then as shown put the crane at the back of the prime mover instead of at the front behind the cab.So supported by the rear/drive axles meaning more weight capacity for a larger crane.
In which case why would you need to uncouple it to load/unload it.
It’s the best of all worlds of all the advantages of a crane, rigid fixed load deck replacing the unecessary multi lift and a decent length low loader trailer.IE the trailer has a better unbroken deck length than either your prime mover or trailer has.
No need for the multilift drop body and the crane is centrally placed to load both prime mover and trailer while coupled in line.While being an A frame a light prime mover v heavy trailer is irrelevant and the long load deck trailer v prime mover has the lower tare.
What’s not to like. 
CF, why don’t you purchase your dream spec and go into competition with Dan? 
Punchy Dan:
Cf your talking ZB again now ,how would I drop a 12 tonne roro fixed plant off the back with a ZB log crane especially in the roadworks contra flow where there’s no room for a crane or even to pull a leg out !
Who says it has to be a logging crane. 
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What’s the difference between the multi lift deck dropped on the ground behind the prime mover v a low loader trailer other than the win win that the rear mounted crane is closer to it at that point.
If there’s no room for the crane how would you get it off the multi lift deck anyway if it’s not mobile. ?.
I’m not seeing anything but advantages with the combination of rear mount hiab and an A frame beavertail low loader trailer.I’d guess coupling location v the Hiab mount would be the most difficult bit.
Star down under.:
CF, why don’t you purchase your dream spec and go into competition with Dan?
The spec of mine suits me but it wouldn’t suit all ,I pick up at lot of jobs where the 8 wheeler can’t get in and where the twin tyre rear lift that can’t lift because of the rear mount crane weight on a 6 wheeler can’t either , access wise the only lorry that can get where I can is the tridem but even then when traction becomes an issue the single drive tridem is stuffed because it can only lift one axle at once .
Cf can come up with whatever combination layout he wants but it won’t suit all jobs which is why the royal we fleet are mixed with regard to wheelbases,axles & crane positions ,trailer lengths ,neck lengths ect
Star down under.:
CF, why don’t you purchase your dream spec and go into competition with Dan?
I won’t be competing with anyone.
I just don’t get the logic of short close coupled ( pig ) trailers, front mounted cranes and using single drive and lift axles to apply more weight to soft ground.
As opposed to a longer low loader A frame ( dog ) trailer, rear ( mid ) mounted crane, and in the case shown double drive bogie to keep axle weights down on the soft.
Maybe you can explain it because I can’t understand the logic of what Dan is describing at any point at all.
If I’ve got it right Dan is just describing substituting the low loader trailer with the multi lift drop body and putting the short close coupled trailer on as an after thought as/when needed ?.
Which means that he can’t take advantage of having a large unbroken load deck with the low tare weight of a trailer relative to the prime mover nor the flexibility of a heavy trailer v light prime mover…
While keeping the front mounted crane and the multi lift body obviously isn’t mutually exclusive with the longer low loader A frame trailer regardless.
Having said that there is obviously also a place for the option of a 6 or 8 x 4 tractor unit with a crane and three or four axle low loader semi trailer artic outfit, possibly also STGO, in that mix by the OP’s stated criteria.
Punchy Dan:
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What’s the difference to that load sitting on a low loader trailer not the dropped multi lift flat body at that point ?.
Bit off topic… But are Foldens still being made?
adam277:
Bit off topic… But are Foldens still being made?
The 4000 series was the last real Foden.
The last Foden badged ( DAF ) truck was reputed around 2006.
adam277:
Bit off topic… But are Foldens still being made?
No, long gone. Their owners, Paccar pulled the plug. DAF being the jewel in their European crown
Advice needed Carryfast
how would you get a non runner Drott out of a field with your log grab beaver tail turntable trailer outfit
^^^^ I’m guessing he would simply employ a double A single slider axle bearing kingpin married to a double underhand crapshaft utilising a woofoo valve. Probably.
Punchy Dan:
adam277:
Punchy Dan:
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Advice needed Carryfast how would you get a non runner Drott out of a field with your log grab beaver tail turntable trailer outfit
Why couldnt he just drive / reverse an A frame trailer down there and load it?
Read it again NON RUNNER
And in this hypothetical situation CarryFast has a trailer and a crane no doubt capable of putting it on a low loader trailer. It doesnt have to lift it on only drag it on. If the crane is not capable of doing that then he could just use a winch or drag it on with a tow rope attached to the truck. Or a million other ways.
I would use Dan’s methods every time cheers Ray
Carryfast:
adam277:
Bit off topic… But are Foldens still being made?
The 4000 series was the last real Foden.
The last Foden badged ( DAF ) truck was reputed around 2006.
What is a real foden is a good question that could go on for a thousand pages
