Would the CSA take your Heavy goods?

discoman:
End of the day … if u really wanted access to your child you would of gone to court long before …, sorry I have no sympathy at all …

^^^ This ^^^, a hundred times this ^^^

Do you refuse to pay for anything for your other two children? Just because one lives in a different house to the others doesn’t, and shouldn’t, make any difference…

I could say you ought to man up, take it on the chin and pay the money because the sooner you do, the sooner you will get used to it and the sooner it will all get sorted… But I’m not!

All you have to do is ‘The RIGHT thing’!!

I agree with your principles (up to a point) but your principles mean diddly squat when you aren’t providing for your own child…

Stop whinging on forums and DO THE RIGHT THING

My BIL has had to fight tooth and nail to get access to his kids because of his mad ex wife. She’s Czech so has naturally used the trump card of “poor foreign woman” numerous times. He’s had no help just hindrance from CAFCAS (they must be run by feminist lesbians) yet he pays what he’s meant to on time without complaint.
I think the OP would be quite happy to not see his offspring if it meant dodging CSA.

discoman:

Malky80:
Seen this and thought you should have a read Williams9881. It was written by an American woman called Carolyn, but might let you see how utterly selfish your attitude towards the cost of bringing YOUR child up is. Maybe once you read it, you’ll put as much or more effort into seeing your wee boy as you are in trying to avoid paying for him. I’m not simply trying to bash you for your attitude mate, I’m just trying to get you to see the negative consequences of your actions and do something about it. Pay for him and try to see him, not because you want to ■■■■ your ex off for making you pay your way, but because that wee boy needs his Daddy.

Dear men who complain about paying child support because she’s taking “your” money & spending it on “herself”:

Ask yourselves this: other than paying child support, what else are you doing for your kid?

How many times have you taken your kid to school and picked him up? Talked to his teachers about how he’s doing, socially & academically? How much homework do you help with? Do you know the names of his best friend, his best friends’ parents, the little girl he has a crush on, the kid he hates? How many playdates do you supervise every week? How many school trips have you chaperoned?

How many nights have you rushed home from work, exhausted, and then had to get dinner on for him? Where are you when he is asking a million questions while you’re trying to get him off to bed so you can take care of your own responsibilities, like paying the bills, or doing some laundry? How many nights has your child gotten out of his bed and crawled into yours because he was having nightmares and couldn’t sleep?

How many doctors’ appointments have you taken him to? How many times have you left your job because he suddenly spiked a fever at school, or had an asthma attack and forgot his inhaler? How many nights have you spent with him in the pediatric ER because he fell, or started throwing up, or just didn’t look right and your instincts said, get him to a doctor right away?

Any system can be abused. Just as not all dads are deadbeats, some mothers are selfish and spend every dime that comes their way on themselves – whether on their appearance, their new man, or their drug habit. If that describes your situation, your child is in danger and you owe it to your child to alert the authorities. If you’re in a position to provide better care, you owe it to your child to seek custody.

The abusers exist, but they are not representative of most women who receive child support. I cringe when I hear comments like, “I pay for my kid and every time I see her, her hair and nails are tight.” If she works or has another source of income, what makes you think she’s spending “your” child support money on her hair and nails? Is she not supposed to be groomed? Would you prefer to see her with chipped nails and a raggedy weave, just so you know she’s not spending a dime of that support check on herself?

Courts split responsibility for taking care of the child’s financial needs between the parents according to income, per a predefined formula. In cases where the child’s father makes more than the mother, courts will expect him to carry the lion’s share of the financial burden. When she makes more money she bears most of the burden. And yet, even in those cases, men still complain about paying the tiny portion the court deems to be their fair share. They’ll say, “she makes enough to take care of the kids. She don’t need my money.” To the selfish [zb] who think like that, I say – grow up.

A lot of men resent the fact that child support goes towards expenses like rent and utilities, as if a child doesn’t also need a safe, warm place to live. If a mother is spending $500 per month to take care of your child, and you contribute $200, that means she contributed $300. If she happens to also spend $200 on her hair, that does not necessarily mean she’s spending “your” $200 on her hair. It may mean that, thanks to your contribution, she has some income left over to treat herself to hair appointments. So? Who’s clocking what you do with the rest of your money that isn’t going towards child support? Oh. Once you pay child support, it’s not your money anymore. Let it go."

The OP, won’t know this because she is refusing access to the kid. End of the day … if u really wanted access to your child you would of gone to court long before …, sorry I have no sympathy at all …

Have you tried going to court for access? it costs a fortune and the system is set up so you cannot win.

About 8 years ago I was quoted about £6,000 to go for access. That was from a Liverpool firm it maybe more expensive in other areas of country.
I have just had my case closed with csa and in final reconning they have brought a £1800 debt up that they chose not to recover from 16 years ago but want it now.
I must point out that I paid csa and maintenance to my ex also as well as holidays clothes etc.

You’re both selfish from the looks of it.

Her being selfish refusing you access and you being selfish for not paying.

The daft thing about it is if you were both adult enough to realise you’re both denying the child a father then this could have been sorted when you split up.

No doubt when the kids older he will resent you both.

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Csa are the biggest organisation of useless spineless shower of pricks.

Go self employed and they wont be able to touch a thing, stay paye try and better yourself and they will punish you for every single penny plus a little bit more. My partners ex is s/e csa took him to court 4 years ago for x amount, went in their favour yet theyve never been able to get a penny from him.

Best advice i can give is hold your head high, pay it and be the better person. Im payin my weekly plus x amount tht i told csa i could afford. Go to court and represent yourself, there is plenty of advice online and facebook groups. i am and hopefully all being well should cost less than a grand in total.

The bottom line is that if your misses ■■■■■■ off with another bloke, then that bloke should understand that he is taking on children and not just a fanny. If I was denied access, then I wouldn’t pay a penny.

Just reading this about the CSA lesbian filth just boils my ■■■■, totally out of touch lefty ■■■■■■■■■ How would revoking a licence help matters if the ‘target’ needs it to earn an income? Maybe the OP should consider converting to Islam, bet they wouldn’t dare go near him.

Harry Monk:
The bottom line is that if your misses ■■■■■■ off with another bloke, then that bloke should understand that he is taking on children and not just a fanny. If I was denied access, then I wouldn’t pay a penny.

This is my attitude towards it I’ve told her time and time again although got no reply give me access and you can have as much money as you want. My boy doesn’t know I exist won’t know the reason his second name is williams or his middle named after my passed away grandad. Shes being sour Im being sour, and to you who are saying your taxes are paying for my sons upbringing. So what would my £700 a month stoppages be going on then? Its not like Ive paid nothing ive paid 5k almost 6k for a child I haven’t clocked eyes on almost 8 years. Also its alright saying go to court, my step brother went through the same thing he had 2 kids with a girl took her to court she poisoned there minds enough to say they didnt want to see him and he ended up 7 grand out of pocket. I would rather work in a curry factory on 200 quid a week and pay minimum than the more you earn the more you pay its discusting. I told the csa why not set up an isa where rather than paying the money to her he will have a massive lump when he turns 18. Its got to be paid but what thanks am I gonna get? I seen her and her mum in the street one time when it was at 6k I said let me see my son Im paying csa, she replied Im not getting any csa I said well im certainly paying it… Her mum laughed in my face and said get on with it. LOL not a chance.

Is it just me , or is the percentages not quite adding up ?
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At the start is was quoted that the Giver pays 15% - & the Receiver gets 4% ,So what/where happens to that missing 11% may I ask :question: :unamused:

trux:
Is it just me , or is the percentages not quite adding up ?
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At the start is was quoted that the Giver pays 15% - & the Receiver gets 4% ,So what/where happens to that missing 11% may I ask :question: :unamused:

Don’t think he put it right, when the CSA started they worked out how much you had to pay and you paid. Now the CSA is being done away with so couples have to sort things themselves, if you get on you pay same as before if not you pay someone to sort it but you pay them an extra 20% and the other side pays 4% of the money they get.

What she or her new bloke have have nothing to do with anything its about you paying your fair share . Not having a dig at the OP but i often think If they stop paying because the amount is to high or have acces issues do ghey put an amount to one side they think right for when the time comes things are right . Hope you do get to see your kids soon

rumour as it if u work in the Republic they can’t touch you…know a few that’s done it …and theyve never heard a work from the csa after …

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mac12:

More Ale:

Colin_scottish:
The CSA dont care about you they just want the money from you.Even if your living in hardship they wont care if your were made homeless.But if you have dependent children living with you they have to take them in to account with the amount they take from you each week.

Of course they want their money, why should my taxes subsidise other peoples’ offspring? It’s bad enough we waste money in foreign aid when we can’t care for pensioners without robbing them of their cash and property.

If a pensioner has got cash and property how are they being robbed if they have to pay for there own care

Because they’ve paid for that care in taxes. Or they would have if people paid up for their own kids.

What, taxes ain’t a savings account, who do you think paid for the NHS, military, roads etc when the old people were younger. :unamused:

del trotter:
What, taxes ain’t a savings account, who do you think paid for the NHS, military, roads etc when the old people were younger. :unamused:

I agree, and furthermore I can’t see why young people, who will most likely never be able to afford a home of their own, should pay through their taxes for the end-of-life health care of a pensioner who may have a property worth the best part of a million quid sitting empty.

chester1:
What she or her new bloke have have nothing to do with anything its about you paying your fair share . Not having a dig at the OP but i often think If they stop paying because the amount is to high or have acces issues do ghey put an amount to one side they think right for when the time comes things are right . Hope you do get to see your kids soon

what price do you put on a fathers life when he tops himself after paying £ thousands, all through the legal system where the father CAN NOT WIN? :imp: I’ve had to bury my brother and ex brother in law, because of said shameless, scally, snake with ■■■■! :unamused: the system ■■■■■. :open_mouth: