Curtains are made to withstand load / weight…
Thats all we used when we did it never lost a load
I would guess he got 36 pallets on the floor and the remainders would be on second level or on top and could move around if unsecured
but what weight are we talking per pallet?
cornflakes are double stacked with clingwrap holding the 2 pallets together took loads of these loads with just 2 straps on the rear pallets they dont move anyware
Herongate:
Curtains are made to withstand load / weight…
I think you mean ‘some’ curtains. Most in the UK are not tested nor classified as load bearing. See if you can spot the EN12642 L/XL label on the next curtainsider you use.
Either way - curtains are for load containment - not load restraint.
It is up to each individual I suppose. You do what you are comfortable with and the enxt man will do what he is comfortable with.
glekay:
cornflakes are double stacked with clingwrap holding the 2 pallets together took loads of these loads with just 2 straps on the rear pallets they dont move anyware
We carry 52 pallets loads out of Kelloggs,I usually cross strap the back and have never had one move,our curtains have it stamped on them that they are load bearing up to the maximum weight of the vehicle!!!
Bikemonkey:
glekay:
cornflakes are double stacked with clingwrap holding the 2 pallets together took loads of these loads with just 2 straps on the rear pallets they dont move anywareWe carry 52 pallets loads out of Kelloggs,I usually cross strap the back and have never had one move,our curtains have it stamped on them that they are load bearing up to the maximum weight of the vehicle!!!
If the pallets are shrinkwrapped, they are secured, but I would always strap the last pallets just so you can open the doors if they do fall back, let’s face it, they are not going to fall forward.
I will stand up in court with you and say stretch wrap is a securing device
shep532:
Herongate:
Curtains are made to withstand load / weight…I think you mean ‘some’ curtains. Most in the UK are not tested nor classified as load bearing. See if you can spot the EN12642 L/XL label on the next curtainsider you use.
Either way - curtains are for load containment - not load restraint.
It is up to each individual I suppose. You do what you are comfortable with and the enxt man will do what he is comfortable with.
Pallet wrap isn’t load rated either perhaps one strap per pallet might not even be enough. 
Those cardboard boxes the cornflakes come in could just be weather protection as well.
You should see the state on our local milk float transit van not a ratchet strap in sight.
He’d fall foul of VOSAs matrix.
Never again will i do curtain work its getting pathetic.
Boss & Driver:
I would guess he got 36 pallets on the floor and the remainders would be on second level or on top and could move around if unsecured
but what weight are we talking per pallet?
You are neither a boss or a driver are you?
Wheel Nut:
Boss & Driver:
I would guess he got 36 pallets on the floor and the remainders would be on second level or on top and could move around if unsecured
but what weight are we talking per pallet?You are neither a boss or a driver are you?
A driver with a big trailer perhaps?
Boss & Driver:
I would guess he got 36 pallets on the floor and the remainders would be on second level or on top and could move around if unsecured
but what weight are we talking per pallet?
I would guess at 175kg including pallet so that’s about 9 tonne all in. thats guessing at 12 x 4 x 4 high. But it is a complete guess.
HTH 
Boss & Driver:
I would guess he got 36 pallets on the floor and the remainders would be on second level or on top and could move around if unsecured
but what weight are we talking per pallet?
what are you towing?
happysack:
Wheel Nut:
Boss & Driver:
I would guess he got 36 pallets on the floor and the remainders would be on second level or on top and could move around if unsecured
but what weight are we talking per pallet?You are neither a boss or a driver are you?
A driver with a big trailer perhaps?
The most chep pallets on the trailer floor of the longer trailers is 30! 
chester:
‘… two internal straps around the rear pallets … what would you do…?’
In no particular order:
A. Consult the employers Risk Assessment. (A joke - we know they never exist despite the law)
B. Be mindful that ‘contents may settle in transit’. (A crap ‘joke’)
C. Ask a DCPC trainer 
I am so glad I’m off the curtains. It really is ridiculous. It’s getting as bad as Germany now. Do they not realise that strapping some loads can do more harm than good. I took a cobelfret trailer to the new river island dc at Milton Keynes a couple of years ago. It had 2 flat pack conveyor belts inside. The whole trailer went 9 tonnes. It had 18 5 tonne straps lashing all the ally frames to the floor. Both frames were a write off. The contractors were not impressed. It’s about time load bearing curtains were made standard. Then just go back to strapping the back palletts
OVLOV JAY:
I am so glad I’m off the curtains. It really is ridiculous. It’s getting as bad as Germany now. Do they not realise that strapping some loads can do more harm than good. I took a cobelfret trailer to the new river island dc at Milton Keynes a couple of years ago. It had 2 flat pack conveyor belts inside. The whole trailer went 9 tonnes. It had 18 5 tonne straps lashing all the ally frames to the floor. Both frames were a write off. The contractors were not impressed. It’s about time load bearing curtains were made standard. Then just go back to strapping the back palletts
Best post so far.
In my opinion, i think we either do this properly like the germans, i.e proper trailers with lots of hooks for straps, side boards, rubber mats etc or we go back to how it was, not this half hearted atempt where all people are doing now is using a few extra internal straps.
In response to the OP, no i wouldnt of bothered strapping it, just the last row. Where i work you’d more than likely get sacked for refusing to take a load.
Saaamon:
OVLOV JAY:
I am so glad I’m off the curtains. It really is ridiculous. It’s getting as bad as Germany now. Do they not realise that strapping some loads can do more harm than good. I took a cobelfret trailer to the new river island dc at Milton Keynes a couple of years ago. It had 2 flat pack conveyor belts inside. The whole trailer went 9 tonnes. It had 18 5 tonne straps lashing all the ally frames to the floor. Both frames were a write off. The contractors were not impressed. It’s about time load bearing curtains were made standard. Then just go back to strapping the back pallettsBest post so far.
In my opinion, i think we either do this properly like the germans, i.e proper trailers with lots of hooks for straps, side boards, rubber mats etc or we go back to how it was, not this half hearted atempt where all people are doing now is using a few extra internal straps.
In response to the OP, no i wouldnt of bothered strapping it, just the last row. Where i work you’d more than likely get sacked for refusing to take a load.
^^ This
I mean, come on, where the hell they going to go, how they going to go through a curtain? It’s bloody cornflakes for gods sake.
If he was permanent, he’d be in for a ‘chat’, if he was agency, it’d be the last time he came in. Hope the football was worth it.
I’ve posted before, but there’s a place that does toilet rolls near the reebok, and they insist you cross strap every 3rd row of pallets of toilet roll. They are wedged in at either side causing a slight buldge in the curtains and rammed in from the back doors (ooh err) to get the last pallets in, so literally no room to move and no weight…
Also, when you do x-strap every 3rd row, you can’t tighten the x-strapping because it may prevent the last ones coming in from the back and you’d then have to undo them all
They told me it’s because they had a trailer go over, so now insist on it… 
Where I am now is the exact opposite, no straps at all, I finish Friday.
He should have got a felt tip pen and drawn some straps on the pallets job done. 
OVLOV JAY:
It had 2 flat pack conveyor belts inside. The whole trailer went 9 tonnes. It had 18 5 tonne straps lashing all the ally frames to the floor. Both frames were a write off. The contractors were not impressed.
Is that the fault of the straps, or the person that secured the frames 