Would 2 internal straps restrain 52 pallets of corn flakes!

Lad at work had a bit of a drama, he was told to take fully loaded double stacked trailer which only had two internal straps around the rear pallets!

He was unable to use more straps has all the rest of the internal straps were tucked behind the headboard and trapped by the double stacked load.

His reasoning was the clampdown of VOSA and unsecure loads, and it was his license. Was he right?
He didnt take it out in the end and got an early knock off, traffic office dont seem to bothered about it as another driver took it out.

So thats 52 pallets and two internal straps over to you guys what would you do?

Early knock off, England match, hmmm

Its corn flakes the only movement will be the rear pallets imo.

I would have got rid of those two straps as well,pain in the ■■■■!

He was right IMO. Vosa is clamping down. But if there was a FLT available, why didn’t they just take the front 2 stacks off and let him into the rest of the internal straps.

chester:
So thats 52 pallets and two internal straps over to you guys what would you do?

I would take it out without a moments hesitation. Cornflakes weigh nothing, they wouldn’t be going anywhere.

Paul

damoq:
He was right IMO. Vosa is clamping down. But if there was a FLT available, why didn’t they just take the front 2 stacks off and let him into the rest of the internal straps.

He suggested that, as well has using ratchet straps! the RDC he was at, wouldnt let him do either.
I think it was summat about being on a dock and FLTs not available outside the warehouse.

chester:

damoq:
He was right IMO. Vosa is clamping down. But if there was a FLT available, why didn’t they just take the front 2 stacks off and let him into the rest of the internal straps.

He suggested that, as well has using ratchet straps! the RDC he was at, wouldnt let him do either.
I think it was summat about being on a dock and FLTs not available outside the warehouse.

Ratchet straps■■? That is a bit OTT though. But not to move 2 pallets for they guy is just daft!

Never heard as much mad dog dung! Maybe he would have liked to strap over every pallet and crush the product! What sort of drivers are they!

The code of practice states full weight of load forward, half weight of load sideways and half weight of load rearwards, and nomal curtains dont count ! so what is the weight of a pallet of cornflakes?

According to the VOSA matrix a light palletised load with no load securing/lashing would result in a prohibition.

Adding the two rear internal straps may mean it is unsuitably secured which then becomes an advisory only.

I think he did the right thing in the circumstances. As he said - his licence.

He done the right thing the bloke that took the load out Wudnt be so cavalier if he had 3 points on his licence now, the thing is ■■■■■■■■ baffles brains we all no in the real world every pallet of corn flakes don’t need strapping but if that’s how vosa want it done why not do it it’s your licence my mate said tho if it’s rice crispies you don’t have to use straps cos they are lighter than corn flakes however this is only if they are the small 250gram boxes he got a warning for not having the 500 gram ones chained down be warned

He could’ve been ok with coco pops,
Cos they turn the milk chocolatey.

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repton:

chester:
So thats 52 pallets and two internal straps over to you guys what would you do?

I would take it out without a moments hesitation. Cornflakes weigh nothing, they wouldn’t be going anywhere.

Paul

Same here, wouldn’t be bothered strapping.

If VOSA reckon curtains provide no load restraint how come so many curtainside rollovers get righted by recovery with the load still all onboard.

Seems typical VOSA loudly launch some enforcement crackdown, in many cases, perfectly sensible drivers terrified of losing vocational licences and operators terrified of losing o-licences jump up and down in a panic.

Net result rogue slap-dash folk carry-on as they were and there’ll be a load of injuries caused, and time wasted, by trying to strap loads that don’t need it.

For a similar example see the thread by the driver that was overdue a rest break so took it on the hard shoulder.

Does he do this sort of thing often… is he a cereal dodger…?

2 rear straps will do! Unless I get a warning off VOSA! Then all 26 will be required! Even if the customer don’t want to offload to get at the headboard! :sunglasses:

Own Account Driver:

repton:

chester:
So thats 52 pallets and two internal straps over to you guys what would you do?

I would take it out without a moments hesitation. Cornflakes weigh nothing, they wouldn’t be going anywhere.

Paul

Same here, wouldn’t be bothered strapping.

If VOSA reckon curtains provide no load restraint how come so many curtainside rollovers get righted by recovery with the load still all onboard.

Seems typical VOSA loudly launch some enforcement crackdown, in many cases, perfectly sensible drivers terrified of losing vocational licences and operators terrified of losing o-licences jump up and down in a panic.

Net result rogue slap-dash folk carry-on as they were and there’ll be a load of injuries caused, and time wasted, by trying to strap loads that don’t need it.

For a similar example see the thread by the driver that was overdue a rest break so took it on the hard shoulder.

Great post…totally agree

The weight bearing in the curtain straps would have been more than enough to secure load, if u have internal straps available then yeah sure put 2 round the back pallets to stop them falling backwards on take off. . . CRACKERS comes to mind!

Herongate:
Does he do this sort of thing often… is he a cereal dodger…?

bravo :laughing:

although the curtains are there to keep the rain off. the fact remains that they will retain some loads.
but what we don’t know, is what load bearing they have. but i bet we could find out.
present a load bearing certificate in court, and get it thrown out. don’t show it at the roadside, it takes the fun out of it.

don’t get me wrong. i’m all for load security. i don’t give a [zb] about most things like tachos/poa and all that crap. but load security is important, because if you don’t do it right, then you really could kill someone. (steel, machinery, timber) but the likelyhood of killing someone by securing cornflakes with a curtain would be ridiculous.