There are dozens of other careers that have long hours, those who spend 8 hours in an office and commute 4 hours each way, car train, tube taxi! Or sales reps who live in motel rooms all week and drive 400 miles per day.
Grayham:
At least once, maybe twice a week but i normally run out of driving hours first.
i know its shocking really, if you can be at work for 15 hrs a day they may as well let you drive for the 15hrs 
truckyboy:
It is however illegal for a planner to plan a 15 hr day
That is total ■■■■■■■■.
I hope this helps.
truckyboy:
and as i have always said, install clocks, clock in, then check the actual hours on duty, that would shock a lot of officials, but we all know it will not happen.
You really should have a tacho in the cab like the rest of us.
I can do loads of hours one week then it goes quiet for a while,this week has been mental due to the factory having production problems and that means lots of waiting to get the ok to be loaded as they wont load live birds unless they know for sure they can process them,just have to be prepared for a 15 anyday you go in 
Usually when I get to the 10 hr mark I’m looking to get parked up, whether local or away.
Maybe do a 11 or 12hr occasionally if needed but cant remember ever doing a 15hr.
Coffeeholic:
truckyboy:
It is however illegal for a planner to plan a 15 hr dayThat is total ■■■■■■■■.
I hope this helps.
No, it’s true. If the German police catch you working a 15 hour day, they will put you in a hotel, bill your employer for it and then draw a chalk line around your truck.
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Kids of today, pssscohh, in my day you did 15 hours then another five with the wire in. 
truckyboy:
With the state of the haulage industry in general, all of them have to max out the hours, to get the extra loads in, to make it pay, what with the extra payments on fuel, drivers wages etc, they have to make a living, and the only way is to work longer hours, or increase the rates, and with so much competition, they will be told where to go.
It is however illegal for a planner to plan a 15 hr day, but expect their drivers to work the hours needed to finish the job, which is always the max, 3 x 15 + 2 x 10. We are only supposed to work a max of 48, increased to 60, yet average 70/80/90, because of the way the law was written it does not include time tipping/loading, and as i have always said, install clocks, clock in, then check the actual hours on duty, that would shock a lot of officials, but we all know it will not happen.
tell me where it is illegal to plan a 15 hr day, under what rule are you saying it is 
Working 15 hours a day? Wassat then?
Week before last, I did 27 hours all week, but I am salaried so I’m laughing all the way to the cash-point. \0/
there are sections off haulage that require max hours tippers tanks general haulage i know containers and rdc do max hours but spend alot on loading bays all depends on what job you land. Being new to driving it could be a while before you get a better job in terms off hours.
Like some im on bulk tippers and try to max my hours out seeing as i tramp too.
Wheel Nut:
There are dozens of other careers that have long hours, those who spend 8 hours in an office and commute 4 hours each way, car train, tube taxi! Or sales reps who live in motel rooms all week and drive 400 miles per day.
I fthey are driving 400 miles a day they sure aint doin much seeling
I work max 11 hour shifts now! StobartRail! No planning as such as it’s 4 or 5 boxes each way between Maritime Tilbury and Tesco Purfleet!
11 hours daily rest means a 13 hour working day! Unless you choose to reduce to 9 hours of course! 
wildfire:
truckyboy:
With the state of the haulage industry in general, all of them have to max out the hours, to get the extra loads in, to make it pay, what with the extra payments on fuel, drivers wages etc, they have to make a living, and the only way is to work longer hours, or increase the rates, and with so much competition, they will be told where to go.
It is however illegal for a planner to plan a 15 hr day, but expect their drivers to work the hours needed to finish the job, which is always the max, 3 x 15 + 2 x 10. We are only supposed to work a max of 48, increased to 60, yet average 70/80/90, because of the way the law was written it does not include time tipping/loading, and as i have always said, install clocks, clock in, then check the actual hours on duty, that would shock a lot of officials, but we all know it will not happen.tell me where it is illegal to plan a 15 hr day, under what rule are you saying it is
I believe it is MMTM (RDC) 11/13 Article 2(x10)
I hope this helps.
It will always be thus, too many blokes with no home or other life nearly in tears if they can’t ‘get the hours in’.
Instead of drivers via their reps or unions negotiating a decent pay and hours package they still insist on working every hour they can get, far better than negotiating a 48 hour salaried week, bonkers the lot of them.
For those old enough, remember the days of log books when a 12 and half hour spread was your maximum working day, (yes some then used to run bent but not all), then we got safety wise and joined the EU and got…a 15 hour day instead…brilliant.
Bloody lorry drivers are their own worse enemy, we’ll never get good hours and conditions for everyone cos the silly buggers can’t see any further than their noses.
Coffeeholic:
wildfire:
truckyboy:
With the state of the haulage industry in general, all of them have to max out the hours, to get the extra loads in, to make it pay, what with the extra payments on fuel, drivers wages etc, they have to make a living, and the only way is to work longer hours, or increase the rates, and with so much competition, they will be told where to go.
It is however illegal for a planner to plan a 15 hr day, but expect their drivers to work the hours needed to finish the job, which is always the max, 3 x 15 + 2 x 10. We are only supposed to work a max of 48, increased to 60, yet average 70/80/90, because of the way the law was written it does not include time tipping/loading, and as i have always said, install clocks, clock in, then check the actual hours on duty, that would shock a lot of officials, but we all know it will not happen.tell me where it is illegal to plan a 15 hr day, under what rule are you saying it is
I believe it is MMTM (RDC) 11/13 Article 2(x10)
I hope this helps.
coffee can’t find that whats its full title would love to show my boss 
It’s not illegal for a planner to plan a 15 hour day, and I do normally take one or two reduced rests during the week. However, it’s always my decision as to whether I feel like reducing my rest, that is something my employer also feels very sure about.
One thing which is guaranteed to get a traffic clerk the wrong end of my tongue is the expression “take your nine hours off”…
Harry Monk:
It’s not illegal for a planner to plan a 15 hour day, and I do normally take one or two reduced rests during the week. However, it’s always my decision as to whether I feel like reducing my rest, that is something my employer also feels very sure about.One thing which is guaranteed to get a traffic clerk the wrong end of my tongue is the expression “take your nine hours off”…
I mentioned something like this on another thread. The only information I require is the load detail, the address and the delivery or collection time. Obviously if there is a ferry crossing I would ask for preferred routes if applicable but basically the driver should be trusted (and generally is) to plan his own days and nights.
A 11 hour day will only turn into a 15 hour day if you meet one of those SARP lorries.