Have I got this right.
I worked 2 and 3rd of jan.
On sat 3rd I finished at 22:45 and started again monday 5th at 6:10 only taking 31hr 25mins off, 13hr 25 min owed.
The week starting jan 5th I worked a full week over 6 days so by the end of the third week I have to repay the weekly reduced rest which is 13hr 25 mins.
I hope this makes sense.
I think you’ve got it right, but i’ll be interested to see if we are wrong.
I think thats right too
My only confussion is the previous week I only worked 2 days otherwise i’d be happy I was right.
If you only work two days in any particular week, then you cannot possibly “owe anything” from that week.
[zb] it.
pull the fuse for a day, that’ll do it. 
Harry Monk:
If you only work two days in any particular week, then you cannot possibly “owe anything” from that week.
But you can only work 6 days without a weekly rest period. I’ve done 8 shifts with only 31hr 25min break. Why so many confussing rules■■?
Mr B:
Harry Monk:
If you only work two days in any particular week, then you cannot possibly “owe anything” from that week.But between 8 working shifts I’ve only taken 31hr 25min break
I think you can do 6 days take a 24 hour reduced weekly rest and then do another 5 days so that is 11 working shifts with only a 24 hour break 
Presumably you never worked for the week apart for Friday 2nd Jan and Saturday 3rd Jan, if this is correct then you’ve had the required full weekly rest for the week 29th December / 4th January (weekly rest on Mon,Tue,Wed,Thur).
You then had a reduced weekly rest period which allows you to begin a new set of 6 x 24 hour periods (work days).
Assuming that you started a full weekly rest period on Saturday 10th then that will count for the week commencing Monday 5th January.
Week 1:
Monday - No work
Tuesday - No work
Wedne3sday - No work
Thursday - No work … You’ve had a 45 hour weekly rest for this week
Friday - Work
Saturday - Work …You now begin a reduced weekly rest of 31 hours and 25 minutes so that you can begin a new set of 6 x 24 hour periods
Week 2:
Monday To Saturday you work … Saturday you begin a 45 hour weekly rest for the week beginning Monday 5th January week 
So as long as you’re happy for the weekly rest beginning on Saturday 10th January to count for the week starting on 5th January you have no compensation to pay back.
Hope this makes sense
ROG:
Mr B:
Harry Monk:
If you only work two days in any particular week, then you cannot possibly “owe anything” from that week.But between 8 working shifts I’ve only taken 31hr 25min break
I think you can do 6 days take a 24 hour reduced weekly rest and then do another 5 days so that is 11 working shifts with only a 24 hour break
Arrrgh!!! I’m even more confussed now.
If I worked:-
Fri
Sat
Sunday 31hr 25 break
Mon
Tues
Wed
Thurs
Fri
Sat
Sun 45 hour break
What next? To me I think need to compensate the reduced time off before the third week.
It’s not that important really because I have no work onmonday and I’m happy to take the day off but i’d like to know.
whats weekly rest 
ROG:
Mr B:
Harry Monk:
If you only work two days in any particular week, then you cannot possibly “owe anything” from that week.But between 8 working shifts I’ve only taken 31hr 25min break
I think you can do 6 days take a 24 hour reduced weekly rest and then do another 5 days so that is 11 working shifts with only a 24 hour break
Yes ROG but unless you have a full 45 hour weekly rest in each week you will need to pay back the reduction, which is what Mr B is asking about
edit: Actually you could work 6 shifts have a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours and then work another 6 shifts so that would be 13 days with only a 24 hour rest.
tachograph:
Presumably you never worked for the week apart for Friday 2nd Jan and Saturday 3rd Jan, if this is correct then you’ve had the required full weekly rest for the week 29th December / 4th January (weekly rest on Mon,Tue,Wed,Thur).You then had a reduced weekly rest period which allows you to begin a new set of 6 x 24 hour periods (work days).
Assuming that you started a full weekly rest period on Saturday 10th then that will count for the week commencing Monday 5th January.
Week 1:
Monday - No work
Tuesday - No work
Wedne3sday - No work
Thursday - No work … You’ve had a 45 hour weekly rest for this week
Friday - Work
Saturday - Work …You now begin a reduced weekly rest of 31 hours and 25 minutes so that you can begin a new set of 6 x 24 hour periodsWeek 2:
Monday To Saturday you work … Saturday you begin a 45 hour weekly rest for the week beginning Monday 5th January weekSo as long as you’re happy for the weekly rest beginning on Saturday 10th January to count for the week starting on 5th January you have no compensation to pay back.
Hope this makes sense
My head hurts!!! As of monday 12 th jan at some point do ihave to pay back the 13hrs 25 mins reduced rest.
Is it just me or is this unusual instance confussing?
Mr B:
My head hurts!!! As of monday 12 th jan at some point do ihave to pay back the 13hrs 25 mins reduced rest.
I would say No.
Actually I think you’ll find it’s 13 hours and 35 minutes but as far as I can see you don’t need to pay it back anyway
The weekly rest from Saturday 10th January to Monday 12th January will count as the weekly rest for this week (Monday 5th January to Sunday 11th January) so you’ve had a 45 hour weekly rest in each week.
This assumes that you didn’t work over Christmas.
Hope your head stops hurting soon
tachograph:
Mr B:
My head hurts!!! As of monday 12 th jan at some point do ihave to pay back the 13hrs 25 mins reduced rest.I would say No.
I agree.
Based on the information given you have no compensation to make. In week ending 4th January you had a full weekly rest period you then worked 2 days and took another weekly rest period, this rest serves no purpose other than to prevent you working more than 6 shifts without a weekly rest. The regulations only require 1 weekly rest period per fixed week and as you had already taken a full weekly rest before commencing work on the 2nd you are fine. The weekly rest period taken over the 4th does not require compensation so you can give your head a rest as you are legal, based on the information given.
Incidentally, for future reference it isn’t the third week that you have to take compensation by. It’s the third week following the reduction so a reduction in week 1 requires compensation before the end of week 4, which is the third week following week 1.
tachograph:
ROG:
Mr B:
Harry Monk:
If you only work two days in any particular week, then you cannot possibly “owe anything” from that week.But between 8 working shifts I’ve only taken 31hr 25min break
I think you can do 6 days take a 24 hour reduced weekly rest and then do another 5 days so that is 11 working shifts with only a 24 hour break
Yes ROG but unless you have a full 45 hour weekly rest in each week you will need to pay back the reduction, which is what Mr B is asking about
edit: Actually you could work 6 shifts have a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours and then work another 6 shifts so that would be 13 days with only a 24 hour rest.
I knew it was definitely 5 but was not sure about 6 so erred on the safe side
ROG:
tachograph:
Actually you could work 6 shifts have a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours and then work another 6 shifts so that would be 13 days with only a 24 hour rest.I knew it was definitely 5 but was not sure about 6 so erred on the safe side
ROG, a driver could work 6 shifts every single week and remain legal. If the 6th shift was running back into the depot on a Saturday morning for instance and they finished at say 10:00 and resumed not before 07:00 on the Monday.
I have had several discussions with drivers who wrongly insist you cannot do 6 days in consecutive weeks. As long as the correct weekly rest periods are being taken and with short shifts a driver could do into double figures in a week.
Coffeeholic:
ROG:
tachograph:
Actually you could work 6 shifts have a reduced weekly rest of 24 hours and then work another 6 shifts so that would be 13 days with only a 24 hour rest.I knew it was definitely 5 but was not sure about 6 so erred on the safe side
ROG, a driver could work 6 shifts every single week and remain legal. If the 6th shift was running back into the depot on a Saturday morning for instance and they finished at say 10:00 and resumed not before 07:00 on the Monday.
I have had several discussions with drivers who wrongly insist you cannot do 6 days in consecutive weeks. As long as the correct weekly rest periods are being taken and with short shifts a driver could do into double figures in a week.
Hi Coffeeholic
I may be wrong in saying this but it it does depened on hours driven in the fortnight spread cos some muliti drop drivers do work six days, and if you do for you to do six days you must not drive for more than 45 hours per 6 days .
IMO you should only work one sixth day in a 90 hour spread unless your driving does not go over 90 hours in that spread
Del
Hi delboytwo, I’m sure you’ll get a good answer to your question, but I’m just wondering where you got this part from?
delboytwo:
…you must not drive for more than 45 hours per 6 days
dieseldave:
Hi delboytwo, I’m sure you’ll get a good answer to your question, but I’m just wondering where you got this part from?delboytwo:
…you must not drive for more than 45 hours per 6 days
my meaning is the two week 90 hour spread if you drove 45 last week and did six days then this week you can only drive 45 hour for the six days
Del