Word Censor Dodging

FLIPPER 666:
At the end of the day what is swearing. it is just another word. and to be honest most school yards would put any truck stop to shame in the art of expletive utterance. but then rules are rules. :unamused:

GOD bless the censors, for they will inhibit the Earth. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I can’t believe you can type ■■■■■■■■ and ■■■■ but not [zb]
Who decides this ■■■■??!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Me. L.

JOBSWORTH… :unamused: :unamused:

robB39:
I can’t believe you can type ■■■■■■■■ and ■■■■ but not [zb]
Who decides this [zb]■■!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Me. L.

I don’t have ask for the logic involved then, do I :question: :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Banning swearing is fading away because the ban has no inherent logical basis at all.

For example, there were 212 “F” words in Goodfellas, 197 in Reservoir Dogs and there’s usually over 100 in one Gordon Ramsay episode.

It’s a fact that decades of increasing public use, not least among the young, is diluting the power of such words to shock. If this continues then “F” and “C” may join the “B” word (bugger) which has long lost its power to shock even though its meaning is more ‘offensive’ than the others.
:open_mouth: :wink: (The Guardian)

We all have our different opinions on these things, and that’s fine. But the rules of the site ain’t gonna change, so you either obey them, or go elsewhere. It’s that simple,and I really haven’t got anything else to say on the subject.

Lucy:
We all have our different opinions on these things, and that’s fine. But the rules of the site ain’t gonna change, so you either obey them, or go elsewhere. It’s that simple,and I really haven’t got anything else to say on the subject.

That’s because you can’t give a logical reason for the ban in the first place. :unamused:

You can’t get into a debate because swearing harms no-one and other words allowed mean exactly the same thing.

Shag - ‘F’ ■■■■; ■■■■■■ - ‘C’ ■■■■■ ‘T’ ■■■■ , Crap - ‘S’ ■■■■, ‘B’ ■■■■■■■ is as is and a legit word if used in right context. but will be auto censored anyway.
:unamused: :wink:

Sacreligous profanity was considered the worse form of ‘cursing’.

■■■■■■■■; To ask God to condemn a person to everlasting torment was a very serious ‘blasphemy’.

And bugger to ■■■■■■■■ somebody’s arse hole(A dilemma which word are you going to censor arse or hole■■). Sod a sodomite from Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis) where their lusts were for perverted ■■■■ ■■■ and the like.

Naming someone with ‘excretory’ words or ■■■■■■ ones was to provoke a fight or a duel and a shocking insult, as was questioning the legitimacy of someone’s birth, or his mother’s virtue. Son of a Gun or Son of a ■■■■■.

It’s not the words but how they are used to abuse others. Sheep shagger, ■■■■■■■■■ auto censored = Ricardo Cranium, Arse hole, Knob jockey, ■■■■ sucker, bum licker, etc

What does censorship achieve except to keep some people ignorant of what others learn about life but are the ignorant any better off for the endeavors of the censors? :question: :unamused: mmmm I wonder :wink:

You can’t get into a debate because swearing harms no-one and other words allowed mean exactly the same thing.

Wrong. I can’t get into a debate because a) it’s been done before, b) it isn’t me who makes the rules anyway (the comment in my edit above was tongue in cheek), I just enforce them and c) I have better things to do with me life, like go and post elsewhere when I want to swear.

Still, if you want to carry on, feel free. Although in your shoes, personally, I’d just get over it. Cos it ain’t going to change.

As said earlier , it is a compromise between allowing some strong expression and keeping the website worksafe and accessible to all. At one time we tried the “BBC 9 o’clock watershed definition” but the membership felt that was too restrictive, so we have lightened up a bit.

I agree that many teenagers know and use most expletives while out with their mates, that doesnt mean however that their parents let them use them in their house.

There are some words that will never be allowed simply because I for one would not feel comfortable opening this website with those words possibly coming up on my screen with my young daughter or son able to read them over my shoulder.

There are other drivers forums that allow that extreme of language, if the limitations we ask you to follow on here are too much then you are at liberty to go elsewhere. ( PM me for the web address if you dont already know where it is) :wink: :wink:

Cant we have a poll on this

Should swearing be allowed
a) yes
b) No

This means members can decide
or is this to easy?

[zb]

Or more to the point, It isnt going to happen :wink:

You have been told very clearly what is acceptable here and why, so either respect the rules of this forum, or go elsewhere.

I’m with Rikki and Lucy on this one…you read the rules, you agreed to them and signed to that effect, so now abide by them :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

Or is it possibly that you can’t read, and didn’t know what they said and that’s the reason you can only post unless you’re allowed to use any censored word simply so you’re breaking the rules :question:

Get a life or go elsewhere the choice is pretty clear and if you feel so strongly about it you know where the door is :smiley: :smiley:

Pat

One of my favourite sayings is - If you don’t like the rules, don’t play the game - it applies to many things such as driving and what is being discussed here

Rikki-UK:
You have been told very clearly what is acceptable here and why, so either respect the rules of this forum, or go elsewhere.

Yes but they are not consistent.
Why can i not use Father Jacks catch phrase from Father Ted
The one that rhymes with heck?

I dont mind swear words or offensive words being banned,
but like most people with a bit of power they always go too far.

starlocation:


Sorry denis F, had to borrow your pic to even the ‘FORCE’ :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

ROG:

starlocation:


Sorry denis F, had to borrow your pic to even the ‘FORCE’ :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

Welcome to the Darkside.

Give yourself to the Darkside “MASTER ROG”

starlocation:

ROG:

starlocation:


Sorry denis F, had to borrow your pic to even the ‘FORCE’ :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

Welcome to the Darkside.

Give yourself to the Darkside “MASTER ROG”

I’ll have to invite trucknet member Obi Wan here :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

My two-pennorth for what it’s worth.

As LGV drivers we frequently complain that we are stereotyped by the public as uncouth, unwashed and uneducated yobs. Unmoderated swearing on this forum would simply confirm that stereotype to outsiders.

We owe it to our fellow drivers to educate the public into accepting that we are not all mindless morons. Personally I do not have any problem with the swear filter; in fact I find that I subconsciously moderate my language on here so as not to trigger it. That is no different to minding my language in a pub or suchlike, and surely cannot be a bad thing?

Yes but they are not consistent

Unlike you then?

YAWN :unamused: :unamused:

Pat

gnasty gnome:
My two-pennorth for what it’s worth.

As LGV drivers we frequently complain that we are stereotyped by the public as uncouth, unwashed and uneducated yobs. Unmoderated swearing on this forum would simply confirm that stereotype to outsiders.

HOW?

:question: :confused:

Vulgar from the Latin Vulgaris a word to describe the speech of plebeians (commoners) or the informal speech of the educated.

To use such ‘slang’ was considered below the upper classes.

This carried on into English where
Vulgar in the Websters Dictionary is defined as;

1 a: generally used, applied, or accepted b: understood in or having the ordinary sense <they reject the vulgar conception of miracle – W. R. Inge>2: vernacular 3 a: of or relating to the common people : plebeian b: generally current : public c: of the usual, typical, or ordinary kind4 a: lacking in cultivation, perception, or taste : coarse b: morally crude, undeveloped, or unregenerate : gross c: ostentatious or excessive in expenditure or display : pretentious5 a: offensive in language : earthy b: lewdly or profanely indecent

It’s a class thing! Vulgar is anything to do with the common person of low income and education and has been extended to mean indecent.

So if you’re a truck driver you a considered ‘vulgar’ anyway.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

The ‘toffs’ wouldn’t use the language of the vulgar and put a ‘taboo’ on it.

FLIPPER 666:
At the end of the day what is swearing. it is just another word. and to be honest most school yards would put any truck stop to shame in the art of expletive utterance. but then rules are rules. :unamused:

I agree with Flipper. To have an aversion against a collection of consonants/ vowels that create certain sounds when pronounced in a specific order is top of the list of arguments hard to defend, because you have to argue that such syllables pronounced in that order create a harm so great that you have to ban freedom of speech!!

Studies of modern, non-literate cultures suggest that ‘swearwords’ came from the belief that spoken words have some sort of magical power.

Some cultures, that have not developed a written language, believe that spoken words can curse or bless people or can otherwise affect the world (Word magic). This leads to the idea that some words are either very good or very bad.

So is it the one that bans a word (with magical power) for being ‘bad’ that is the uneducated superstitious and unintelligent person or the one that uses it? :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

As I have shown in my post above it is not the meaning behind the word, ‘F’ in its ■■■■■■ meaning is something quite nice :smiley: but considered a really ‘bad word’. Whereas bugger refers to ■■■■ ■■■ or arse ■■■■.

Sideburns were referred to as bugger -handles and if you weren’t old enough to grow them then the person behind could always hold on to your ears ‘buggerlugs’.
:open_mouth:

It all comes down to society and the actual taboo word.
Research as shown the equivalent word in another language;
(edited out foriegn language swear words)

Do not affect your brain in the same way even if you know what they mean. The same research showed that the upper class snob’s brains also react in the same way to certain ‘slang’ and pronunciation as yours would to swearing it’s called conditioning.

dieseldave:
As I’m sure we’re all aware, we tend to tell our children off if we HEAR them using expletives, so why should we put written ones where they might see them?

Don’t you think this obsession we have to protect children from the big bad taboo word (with magical powers to do them Harm), is strange logic when they will inevitably grow up and have to learn what taboo words mean anyway and there’s no logic in which words are good or bad when we look at meaning either as discussed above.

You could argue this may ultimately be a hindrance to their development because as adults they will encounter taboo words, and ignorance may deepen their embarrassment or limit their options for how to respond.

“If I had a large amount of money I should found a hospital for those whose grip upon the world is so tenuous that they can be severely offended by words and phrases yet remain all un-offended by the injustice, violence and oppression that howls daily.” Stephen Fry

writing the words in another language won’t work either :unamused: mm

robB39:
writing the words in another language won’t work either :unamused: mm

What about
edited have a look at rule 5
trucknetuk.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=27548

Are they banned too
:unamused: :wink: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: