BIGRIG1:
I would say Vosa will be checking like mad for peoples proof of a completed CPC in Sept 2014.
you mean like vosa check like mad for compliance with rtd (wtd)
they couldnt give a toss, no employee or employer has ever been prosecuted yet, no one polices it anywhere in europe
Coffeeholic:
Yes, done 7 hours and will do the rest. Why wouldnât I to be able to continue to do an easy, well paid, job that I enjoy doing when the alternative would be doing a job I donât want to do and would likely involve working harder and earning much less.
you could make a stand for your comrades. power to the people, and sort of thing.
You mean âcomradesâ who carve you up when they pull back in after overtaking, leave you hanging in lane 2 after you move over to let them join, who stop texting and speed up when they realise you are getting past them on the motorway, who â â â â all over service and parking areas where people sleep because they are too idle to walk to the toilet and continually spout BS? Iâll pass on that one thanks.
I really donât have an issue with the DCPC, it requires no real effort, no test to pass, just turn up and pretend to listen and even if I have to pay for it myself it works out to pennies per day over 5 years to be able to continue to earn well so a very small investment to avoid having to work at something I wouldnât like for a living.
Thankyou, I did my 35hours off my own bat because I didnât want to trust my livelihood to the policy/whim of the employer I might be working for.
As it happens my gaffer paid half of it anyhow. He told me he would of happily paid the full amount but he didnât want to set a precedent for all the half arsed blowins we get who actually seem to think the things that Coffee descibed are part of the jobâŚ
I encourage those who refuse to do the DCPC to continue to do so, especially those who drip about it on Internet forumsâŚ
BIGRIG1:
I would say Vosa will be checking like mad for peoples proof of a completed CPC in Sept 2014.
you mean like vosa check like mad for compliance with rtd (wtd)
they couldnt give a toss, no employee or employer has ever been prosecuted yet, no one polices it anywhere in europe
This may be becasue the WTD is Health & Safety legislation and VOSA donât really consider it their remit.
The DCPC on the other hand ⌠definitly under their job description and our local TC has assured me she wants to see it enforced.
HOWEVER - I agree with you and I think it will go largely un-enforced but i wouldnât want to be an employer gets caught employing someone without the DQC. itâs prett clear cut really. You have it - or you donât. Same as a licence
starfighter:
Seeing as DHL are paying for it, arranging it and Iâm doing it in their time then I thought I may as well do it.
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Yes they pay for the course, I get paid 11hrs for doing 7, I get a lye in and a free lunch, why wouldnât I want to do it to keep earning a living doing an easy job.
Iâve done 14 hours so far, while the company i work for are paying for it, and paying me the overtime on a saturday to do it, I think i would be mad to turn it down
Anyone who elects to not do the driver cpc, is electing not to be driving trucks at all in the not-too-far-and -distant.
When are some of you guyâs going to face up to the fact that the dcpc is here to stay, itâs not negotiable, and theres no opting out of 'club membership
Coffeeholic:
Yes, done 7 hours and will do the rest. Why wouldnât I to be able to continue to do an easy, well paid, job that I enjoy doing when the alternative would be doing a job I donât want to do and would likely involve working harder and earning much less.
you could make a stand for your comrades. power to the people, and sort of thing.
Maybe like me he doesnât really have a problem with the concept of a Driver CPC.
This is the thing I donât have a problem with learning something new. Anyone who thinks they know everything is a fool. We only have to look at questions asked on here and some of the answers to know there is a need for education.
However there is a massive problem with the way the driver cpc has been set up and implemented.
BIGRIG1:
I would say Vosa will be checking like mad for peoples proof of a completed CPC in Sept 2014.
you mean like vosa check like mad for compliance with rtd (wtd)
they couldnt give a toss, no employee or employer has ever been prosecuted yet, no one polices it anywhere in europe
This may be becasue the WTD is Health & Safety legislation and VOSA donât really consider it their remit.
Doesnât matter if they consider it their remit or not, they are the agency charged with policing it but appear to concentrate on the tacho regulations instead.
Got 2 sessions to complete and Iâll do it way before the deadline. If not them my HGV and PCV will be useless, Iâm not going to make myself unemployable at 41.
Fatboy slimslow:
Stobart paid for me last three so two to do then hopefully never do it again as Iâll be truckin in Canada/ USA! This country is jodrell BANK! 25 years down the drain there wonât be a White Englishman driving in this country in five years so get brushing up ( in no particular order ) on your jockenese, Irish, welsh, Turk, Croat, Serb, rumu, hungaro, bulgar, Urdu and whatever other madmen they let into this country! so DCPC stick it VOSAs oriface!
So allow me to clarify then old chap.
You wish to solve your problem with immigrants by going somewhere else and being one?
Just because you are (I presume) a white Englishman wonât make you immune to racism and descrimination, somewhere along the line I guarantee you that some American or Canadian will give you a rainstorm of abuse for âcoming over here and stealing our jobsâ followed by the â[zb] off back to your own countryâ rant/routine etc etcâŚ
Your use of asterisks doesnât make that word become acceptable. dd.
BIGRIG1:
I would say Vosa will be checking like mad for peoples proof of a completed CPC in Sept 2014.
you mean like vosa check like mad for compliance with rtd (wtd)
they couldnt give a toss, no employee or employer has ever been prosecuted yet, no one polices it anywhere in europe
This may be becasue the WTD is Health & Safety legislation and VOSA donât really consider it their remit.
The DCPC on the other hand ⌠definitly under their job description and our local TC has assured me she wants to see it enforced.
HOWEVER - I agree with you and I think it will go largely un-enforced but i wouldnât want to be an employer gets caught employing someone without the DQC. itâs prett clear cut really. You have it - or you donât. Same as a licence
I think your right about VOSAs attitude to WTD along with the time consuming job of calculation and proof. DCPC on the other hand is just a case of checking in their computer and the only paperwork would be the impending prosecution of both driver and company.
Donât get me wrong I donât envisage DCPC checkpoints but once in the checkpoint if you think it wonât be looked at your nuts.
Hey there shep532, having read all the replies in this tread do you still feel its relevant?, of course you do because, as I said earlier myself, the only people that think itâs a good idea are those with a vested interest in it, trainers for example. Not one of the replies from lads that have done any of it has been positive. They do it because, in most cases itâs being paid for and itâs a change from the routine.
I donât see it as a relevant course because it attendance only. No test = no real interest.
Fatboy slimslow:
Stobart paid for me last three so two to do then hopefully never do it again as Iâll be truckin in Canada/ USA! This country is jodrell BANK! 25 years down the drain there wonât be a White Englishman driving in this country in five years so get brushing up ( in no particular order ) on your jockenese, Irish, welsh, Turk, Croat, Serb, rumu, hungaro, bulgar, Urdu and whatever other madmen they let into this country! so DCPC stick it VOSAs oriface!
So allow me to clarify then old chap.
You wish to solve your problem with immigrants by going somewhere else and being one?
Just because you are (I presume) a white Englishman wonât make you immune to racism and descrimination, somewhere along the line I guarantee you that some American or Canadian will give you a rainstorm of abuse for âcoming over here and stealing our jobsâ followed by the â[zb] off back to your own countryâ rant/routine etc etcâŚ
Your use of asterisks doesnât make that word become acceptable. dd.
Correct! but one wonât be living in the republic ov mancunia Iâll be living over there, NEVER to come back
Jimbo I speak five of those languages,as I say I chose to drive a truck for a living! it wonât be HERE!
Is it a legal requirement across Europe or is it just a British and Irish thing? I was told from a not so reliable source that its not applicable outside these areas.But surley if all tacho rules are the same and european drivers are using our roads and being employed by local companies then it is applicable for all to have it?