PinkLadyTrucker:
I wont do the Dcpc, But seriously thinking of doing the HIAB and ADR, 2 certs I dont have, bonus is they will count for 35hr dcpc
Isnāt this a complete contradiction⦠if you did the hiab and adr and managed to get only 28hrs out of them then come 2014 youād be out of a job, and if they did add up to 35hrs basically you are doing the dcpc because they are approved courses⦠canāt quite see your logic here⦠or was it tongue in cheek
chicane:
if I never got in a wagon again I wouldnāt be heartbroken.
I very much would be, as unfashionable as that may be to say on here
Fair enough, it depends on your personal preferences and circumstances. I do enjoy doing the C2 multidrop round South Scotland & North England especially the customer interface part of it but the rate is poor, trunking is better paid but does my head in.
When Iām agri contracting I go to the customer discuss the problem/work give them a price, get on with the work in my own time and manner - in other words Iām treated as a professional and further work depends on me doing a good job. I do a lot more training and hold more āticketsā for my agri work than I have to for driving.
well it looks like iām going to be a test case.
iām not doing it, but iāll carry on driving. what the [zb] can they do?
you lot are a bunch of wimps.
next time the germans invade, iāll be the only one stood at dover waving my pitch fork at them. you lot will jump off the cliffs like a bunch of lemmings.
i know switchlogic likes the idea of a driver cpc, but he also likes rent boys, so you are either in my gang or youāre one of his boys. which one is it?
Juddian:
Company pays for the course and us to attend, be stupid not to do it.
Those who donāt want to do it may find no benefits payable by then when they can no longer drive, you will have put yourselves out of work.
Maybe cause some of us have to pay for this crap out of our own pockets, hell if I was getting it paid by the company to do it then Iād have no problem.
Also try find trainers who will do Cpc up here is near on impossible
limeyphil:
the training providers are just like bailiffs. ripping off the working man.
scum.
No the training providers are supplying the training, I use the term loosely, that anybody who wishes to continue driving after september 2014 requires.
I agree that its an unwanted additional expense that anybody who has to fund themselves can ill afford but for a days training most are around the going rate
Itās the regulators who have specified the amount of hours required and how that can be broken down.
My opinion is that the main culprits are the haulage companies, many of whom are expecting there drivers to fund it out of their own pockets. Itās GOING to be a legal requirement after sept 14 the same as insurance and MOT and as far as I know the drivers arenāt expected to cover that cost so far.
Now Iām sure that there are smaller companies that will bleat āwe cant afford to pay for X amount of drivers training and take motors off the roadā. Well the cost of the training in the grand scheme of things is minimal and can usually attract some tax breaks and as for trucks off the road then I guess thatās where a bit of give and take comes in. With a bit of negotiation then I donāt think its unreasonable for a company to ask its drivers to give up a day a year if theyāre funding it and it allows said drivers to continue to earn an income.
Now I know there will be a few beating their chests saying " Iām not giving my time for nothing" but in reality itās not for nothing, itās to allow you to continue to earn a living.
Like it or not times are hard for everybody at present and as with most things in life itās a bit of give and take that smooths things along.
And for all the chest beaters out there consider what the dole office will tell you regarding making a claim when you say " Iāve been put out of work because I ignored the regulations that Iād ONLY been given FIVE years notice about".
limeyphil:
the training providers are just like bailiffs. ripping off the working man.
scum.
So - Are the people selling the diesel to run the trucks acting like bailiffs? The people selling the spare parts to fix them? The people selling frilly curtains and dash mounted shelves? The people selling tyres? etc etc
All these people are cashing in and making money out of the fact that you drive a truck? Thinking about it - even the boss is cashing in on you driving a truck.
limeyphil:
well it looks like iām going to be a test case.
iām not doing it, but iāll carry on driving. what the [zb] can they do?
They probably wonāt need to do anything because itās unlikely that your employer would let you anywhere near a truck without a valid DCPC card after September 2014.
Yes. Iāll pay for it too. Itās mine and nobody gave it to me. Whilst Iām aware that itās just another job creation scheme, and I have no interest in doing it, I didnāt vote for a government that called itself Labour and laughed at those who did by capitulating to EU influence on many many issues, resulting in garbage like this being introduced in an ā ā ā ā of nannying.
Iāve given up fighting the inevitable, so I just get on with it now.
I was under the impression you MUST have completed it by Sept 2014,and if not, you cannot be paid to haul goods for hire or reward.
Our place is paying for ours,one class a year on a Saturday unpaid,lunch provided,done 3 already,some parts boring as heck and others interesting enough,you sometimes learn new things or the right way of something you though differently about,i might as well go along to save me the hassle of using holidays,or booking it and paying for it myself.
Also if each module is different,surley each certificate should show attendance for said module subject and therefore attending 5 modules of the same subject would leave your card invalid.
I would say Vosa will be checking like mad for peoples proof of a completed CPC in Sept 2014.
Done two days not sure when doing the other three.I am only doing it because the company i work for is paying for it plus we get the daily wage plus mileage for fuel.I dont see why we should have to fork more money out just to be able to earn a living its bad enough medicals cost enough when you need them.The two days were a complete waste ot time we watched two videos and the bit of talking we did would have took nomore than two hours.Currently all it is,is an atendance course but the bloke who took us reckons it will end up so you do the course then sit an exam.I reckon he is right as your not learning anything new.And people wonder why nobody wants to do the job especially school leavers.There are no incentives to want to do it but unless your a driver nobody cares neither.There are two jobs in this world that you can get done for trying to earn an honest living and thats lorry driving and prostitution!
BIGRIG1:
I was under the impression you MUST have completed it by Sept 2014,and if not, you cannot be paid to haul goods for hire or reward.
Our place is paying for ours,one class a year on a Saturday unpaid,lunch provided,done 3 already,some parts boring as heck and others interesting enough,you sometimes learn new things or the right way of something you though differently about,i might as well go along to save me the hassle of using holidays,or booking it and paying for it myself.
Also if each module is different,surley each certificate should show attendance for said module subject and therefore attending 5 modules of the same subject would leave your card invalid.
I would say Vosa will be checking like mad for peoples proof of a completed CPC in Sept 2014.
sorry wrong you can do the module 5 times, and until the e.u parliment make a change in the legislation you can continue to do the same,
i have done 7 hrs worth so far, like a lot of people found it a waste of time (we did h&s) there was nothing in it i didnāt already know and to honest most of it is just common sense. the next is going to be the tacho one and i hope i learn something new, wether i will we will have to wait and see,
now for the people that say they are not doing it, great its your choise, but you have to remember at the end of september 2014 your company will not be allowed to legally employ you as a hgv driver, if they do they will be leaving themselves open to prosecution for allowing a unlicenced driver to drive their vehicles, which i would of thought would not go down well with the local t.c. so for the likes of limey ect can you honestly see you company allowing to drive after that date and risk their business just because you wonāt do the d.c.p.c answers please on the back of a postage stamp
ady1:
paid for by company
done on a o/t shift
free sarnies [subway last time]
so why wouldnt you do it.
Stobart paid for me last three so two to do then hopefully never do it again as Iāll be truckin in Canada/ USA! This country is jodrell BANK! 25 years down the drain there wonāt be a White Englishman driving in this country in five years so get brushing up ( in no particular order ) on your jockenese, Irish, welsh, Turk, Croat, Serb, rumu, hungaro, bulgar, Urdu and whatever other madmen they let into this country! so DCPC stick it VOSAs oriface!
you better start brushing up then!!!on irish,welsh,jockanese,and especialy urdu,russian,germanā¦
then the DOT / amount o fScales make vosa look good!