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alte hase:
Banter?, who do you think you are kidding?, the degree, depth and direction of mental effort involved in the creating and uttering of the library of derogatory remarks about agency drivers extends those remarks way beyond any notion of them being mere light hearted banter, it’s the same-old same-old boring-to-death ‘groundhog day’ group of brain-dead posters reiterating their same-old same-old boring-to-death brain-dead remarks, the fact that they are the only ones laughing at their own jokes; uttered to lampoon others, is the surest sign they and their remarks aren’t remotely amusing, however their display of a lack of intelligence and a total absence of decorum is a guarantee nothing will change, and these feigning not to be venomous minded idiots have the cheek to deem others to be trolls.
No work today?
I like this site. I lurk and have learned a lot, so the anti agency driver ‘banter’ lets things down. I’m an agency driver; I feel I do a good job. I am often asked if I’m looking for full time driving work. The fact is I’m not. I have another job. I do agency driving on a Saturday to top up my income as I’ve a son at university and I don’t want him saddled with debt. There are thousands of LGV licence holders who do not drive as a full time job. I started using my licence again in 2014 ( LGV C+E obtained 1990 - I can talk ERFs and Seddon Atkinson’s with Eaton twin splitters too). In my ‘regular’ work agency staff are often used; one has just started in my office. He is treated with respect and has parity of esteem with the other permanent members of staff. This is how it should be. The great myth is that all agency drivers are frustrated or failed full time drivers. I enjoy driving articulated lorries, the money for weekend agency work is good. Driving is different from my normal job so it isn’t boring. I have a great occupational pension and holidays in my regular work so it’s the best of both worlds for me. I did Royal Mail before Christmas; that was good, I didn’t bother driving in January and left weekends free. Now I’m doing Saturday trunk runs; it’s nice work and I enjoy it. No one has ever called me names at client firms; the vast majority of people are very helpful. If anyone did call me a ‘limper’ on a Saturday I’d be finding out about the company grievance procedures. Verbal abuse at work is unacceptable. So why use such derogatory language on here? It’s not funny, clever or amusing. Frankly it’s ignorant and says more about the lack of intelligence of the person posting than anything else. Is it any wonder that LGV drivers complain about the way they are regarded and treated when they add to the already bad reputation of the transport industry with crass, ignorant so called ‘banter’.
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As an agency driver myself I’m disgusted to read these abusive comments about my limp. It’s a medical condition caused by having a wooden leg but a real foot.
Just you lot wait till I chase after you round the Tesco RDC waiting room. We will see who’s laughing then.
I only said he turned up late.
Anyway should be another in tomorrow so let’s see if he can redeem the national trend.
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Butcher:
I did agency back in 2002. Stayed with them for three years. They kept me busy. I think throughout that time I only went about four days with no work.For the bone head, sunglasses in the dark, rigger booted, won’t use the hard shoulder on a smart motorway, don’t do hanball , won’t let a driver back in after he’s pulled into lane two, oh and the wheel pi££ers: what is your problem with agency drivers?
An agency driver is doing the work that suits his or her needs. He works when it suits him. He’s not confined to the same job day in day out( unless he’s on a long term contract). He or she have total flexibility over their shifts( within reason). They are in control of their working hours and can manage their lives to suit themselves. Instead of being abused bysome ex driver who’s become “transport planner” and is riding high in the office, forgetting what difficulties drivers face. So you see the agency “limper” and I resent using that term, is quite possibly having the last laugh at the bone head hogging the middle lane because of the bone heads mate" neanderthal", failing to ease off the gas for a second so that bone head can pass.
To any newbie driver don’t pay too much attention to bone head and Neanderthal.
Ffs, I did not realise that so many hairy arsed butch truckers could be so fragile and delicate, some have obviously led sheltered lives the way they rear up at comments on a ■■■■ forum.
Your opinion and view on full time drivers amused me but guess what…I didn’t stick my bottom lip out, and mince off in a strop as I am a big lad …I can take a bit of stick banter or maybe abuse or whatever the hell you care to call it depending on how much of a delicate soul you are.
I’m just going through your list and trying to figure out which one applies to me., so here goes…a bit of fun (look it up)
I.Bonehead? I would say no although some may disagree.
2.Sunglasses in dark? Go on then give you that one, but only because I’ve forgot I’m wearing them, and I have got my Cool supertrucker image to maintain after all.
3.Rigger boots? No, for the same reason as above I wear Full poser style Dutch clacks.
4.Won’t use hard shoulder on s.m.way? Sorry bud, wrong again.
5.Don’t do hanball? Looking bad mate, wrong yet again. 
6.Won’t let overtakers in? Getting embarassing now mate, another fail I’m afraid.
7.Wheel ■■■■■■■■ Have been known to in last 36 yrs driving, any driver who says they have never ever is a ■■■■■■ liar, so I will give you that one as I am honest. 
8.Allow tm.s to abuse me?:lol: Are you having a giraffe, 
read some of my past posts.
9.Neandrathal mates. OK, but only 1 sprngs to mind.
So bud, epic fail I reckon.
Now my turn, a fiver to your favourite charity says that you wear a hi viz while driving, now be as honest as I have been. 
and ffs lighten up. 
alte hase:
Dipper_Dave:
As an agency driver myself I’m disgusted to read these abusive comments about my limp. It’s a medical condition caused by having a wooden leg but a real foot.Just you lot wait till I chase after you round the Tesco RDC waiting room. We will see who’s laughing then.
Give it a rest will you, you aren’t this site’s mediator, and you sure as hell aren’t the intellectual colossus and wise philosopher you believe yourself to be, and your best attempts at comic genius are about as funny as a funeral.
You know what mate, I’d rather read 100 of DD’s posts than 1 from some of the sombre miserable non s.o.humoured ■■■■ on these threads, but maybe that’s because I don’t take all this cack as serious as evidently some do on here.
Where are the agency drivers that can actually take a bit of ribbing, where’s Evil8b for instance, at least you can have a ■■■■ giggle with him and a few more.
The same old refrain from the oaf who is confronted about their abusive boorishness; I was only having a laugh, just a bit of banter, a giggle… you may find it funny. I don’t and other agency drivers don’t either.
It isn’t funny, it’s pathetic.
Elsewhere on this forum there are threads about unacceptable behaviour at work, threats of violence to a female driver, calling an agency driver who arrived late for work a ‘lazy limper’. He may be lazy, he may have poor timekeeping but labelling temporary agency staff as ‘limpers’ is unacceptable.
I read about a shortage of new people becoming drivers, few women driving relative to other jobs and of course those that do start driving have to start getting experience on agency work. Then they are called ‘limpers’. People interested in lorry driving as a career will read this forum. What will they think of driving as a result of reading a ‘UK PROFESSIONAL drivers forum’ ?
Is it any wonder that LGV driving is not considered a good or worthwhile occupation?
As long as oafs perpetuate a culture of abuse and denigration the reputation of the transport industry will remain poor and new people won’t want to do the job.
Evil8 is busy trying to sort a spacious lift out somewhere between S/ampton and Leeds if he knows what’s good for him
Better than a book at bedtime, I reckon 
Can’t believe that being called a limper could provoke so much outrage in people.
We have a term for this kind of “abuse” up north…
It’s called banter [emoji2]
You can’t believe being called a ‘limper’ would provoke outrage?
That says everything about you and your intelligence; it is not acceptable in the work place to make derogatory remarks about temporary staff.
So why is it acceptable on here?
I’m from the north too and I was taught in my Co Durham childhood that ‘to get respect you have to give respect’.
Denigrating others for your own amusement isn’t banter, it’s bullying. It isn’t acceptable in any other occupation so why should we allow a term like ‘limper’ to gain a foothold in the transport industry?
Gandalf, a wise old wizard you ain’t. That’s for sure. Linking the mildly unaffectionate term “limper”, to Bonnie Lass’ unfortunate workplace incident, and the driver shortage is wrong. Totally. You’re stretching, for stretching’s sake.
Post Haste, or whatever you are called, unfortunately for you I reckon you might have a bit of a tin ear(or should that be eye?!) for our Dipper’s posts. Sad for you, but I reckon you are in the minority. Comedians offend some people, and Dave is just the same. If you don’t like it sweetie, change the channel, don’t start trying to tell others what they find funny, because you’ll invariably be wrong.
As a generalisation, I have found agency guys to be either exceptional in all aspects of the job(appearance, attitude, attention to detail) or bloody jaw dropping awful. Whereas the FTWs seem to have more middle of the road manner to work. But I guess that’s the nature of the beast isn’t it? A FTW doesn’t have to try as hard as the agency man to impress, and that really is the crux.
I’d also like to say, to the fella who bought himself a holdall, you’ll go far But you’ll probably not make it to the ranks of exceptional agency driver as you clearly have a sense of humour. Either get it removed or become a FTW or they wont want you!
Good, bad, indifferent, who cares? I don’t give one toss abut what any other driver wants to call me, and I doubt I’d get offended over it.
Freddie, FTW, Cab Polisher, Secret Mancrush on Ryan Reynolds.
gandalfthegrey:
You can’t believe being called a ‘limper’ would provoke outrage?That says everything about you and your intelligence; it is not acceptable in the work place to make derogatory remarks about temporary staff.
So why is it acceptable on here?
I’m from the north too and I was taught in my Co Durham childhood that ‘to get respect you have to give respect’.
Denigrating others for your own amusement isn’t banter, it’s bullying. It isn’t acceptable in any other occupation so why should we allow a term like ‘limper’ to gain a foothold in the transport industry?
Does that mean I have to stop calling the wife a fattie?
Shame really as she will think I’m taking the pee if I call her slim. She is fat.
gandalfthegrey:
The same old refrain from the oaf who is confronted about their abusive boorishness; I was only having a laugh, just a bit of banter, a giggle… you may find it funny. I don’t and other agency drivers don’t either.It isn’t funny, it’s pathetic.
Elsewhere on this forum there are threads about unacceptable behaviour at work, threats of violence to a female driver, calling an agency driver who arrived late for work a ‘lazy limper’. He may be lazy, he may have poor timekeeping but labelling temporary agency staff as ‘limpers’ is unacceptable.
I read about a shortage of new people becoming drivers, few women driving relative to other jobs and of course those that do start driving have to start getting experience on agency work. Then they are called ‘limpers’. People interested in lorry driving as a career will read this forum. What will they think of driving as a result of reading a ‘UK PROFESSIONAL drivers forum’ ?
Is it any wonder that LGV driving is not considered a good or worthwhile occupation?
As long as oafs perpetuate a culture of abuse and denigration the reputation of the transport industry will remain poor and new people won’t want to do the job.
Mate, I don’t know how long you have been in this job, but the time that I have, (maybe longer than I should have ) I have found drivers to be profound ■■■■ takers, second only maybe to squaddies, it is what they do…they are not ‘oafs’ (ok maybe a few) they are drivers from all classes and walks of life.
In my opinion the subjects that you mention… violence aimed at women, and genuine abuse is totally unacceptable. If you make derogatory remarks about somebody’ s colour, race, or remarks about his family or even his unfortunate circumstances, I would say that is also wrong, and I also personally hate any form of bullying.
But come on mate to have a pop at someone who DOES THE SAME JOB AS YOU, but in a different form in employment terms, is hardly the same thing. Calling them limpers is hardly up there with ‘‘black whatevers’’ or are you suffering from Terminal politicalcorrectness syndrome or something.
To laugh at them in their stereotype hi viz and earpiece is hardly as bad as laughing at someone in a wheelchair.
To laugh at their carrier bags, true or myth, is a bit different to laughing at a colostomy bag.
So let’s all not get carried away, and keep things in their true perspective.
I would suggest that if you or the rest of agency men (again drivers JUST LIKE ME ) can not hack this kind of low level banter (sorry mate but that is what it is whether you agree or not) you/they have probably chosen the wrong career.
alte hase:
the nodding donkey:
alte hase:
Banter?, who do you think you are kidding?, the degree, depth and direction of mental effort involved in the creating and uttering of the library of derogatory remarks about agency drivers extends those remarks way beyond any notion of them being mere light hearted banter, it’s the same-old same-old boring-to-death ‘groundhog day’ group of brain-dead posters reiterating their same-old same-old boring-to-death brain-dead remarks, the fact that they are the only ones laughing at their own jokes; uttered to lampoon others, is the surest sign they and their remarks aren’t remotely amusing, however their display of a lack of intelligence and a total absence of decorum is a guarantee nothing will change, and these feigning not to be venomous minded idiots have the cheek to deem others to be trolls.No work today?
Not even I thought to see my point proven that quickly, over 700 posts in under a year, and you’re going to tell you also have time to work.
I have a nice job (full time), and can squeeze in an average of two, literate posts a day. If you find that excessive, or a special feat, perhaps that tells us more about you, than me.
gandalfthegrey:
I like this site. I lurk and have learned a lot, so the anti agency driver ‘banter’ lets things down. I’m an agency driver; I feel I do a good job. I am often asked if I’m looking for full time driving work. The fact is I’m not. I have another job. I do agency driving on a Saturday to top up my income as I’ve a son at university and I don’t want him saddled with debt. There are thousands of LGV licence holders who do not drive as a full time job. I started using my licence again in 2014 ( LGV C+E obtained 1990 - I can talk ERFs and Seddon Atkinson’s with Eaton twin splitters too). In my ‘regular’ work agency staff are often used; one has just started in my office. He is treated with respect and has parity of esteem with the other permanent members of staff. This is how it should be. The great myth is that all agency drivers are frustrated or failed full time drivers. I enjoy driving articulated lorries, the money for weekend agency work is good. Driving is different from my normal job so it isn’t boring. I have a great occupational pension and holidays in my regular work so it’s the best of both worlds for me. I did Royal Mail before Christmas; that was good, I didn’t bother driving in January and left weekends free. Now I’m doing Saturday trunk runs; it’s nice work and I enjoy it. No one has ever called me names at client firms; the vast majority of people are very helpful. If anyone did call me a ‘limper’ on a Saturday I’d be finding out about the company grievance procedures. Verbal abuse at work is unacceptable. So why use such derogatory language on here? It’s not funny, clever or amusing. Frankly it’s ignorant and says more about the lack of intelligence of the person posting than anything else. Is it any wonder that LGV drivers complain about the way they are regarded and treated when they add to the already bad reputation of the transport industry with crass, ignorant so called ‘banter’.
Did they cancel your shift today?
My issue with this ‘banter’ is the impression it gives of the industry. It says to someone coming onto this site that when they start work and try to gain experience as agency drivers that they will be called derogatory names. I do not think that is a good impression to make.
I first jumped into a lorry for a job in 1990; it was a Seddon Atkinson with the awful Eaton gearbox. No body called me a ‘limper’ then; when I was starting the full time drivers were full of helpful advice and in those less safety conscious times literally saved my life. I don’t remember a lot of ‘banter’ people just got on with the job. I took up driving again in 2014, again no one has called me a ‘limper’ despite everything that has happened over the last 26 years I think most drivers are a helpful bunch.
So why does the name calling happen on here?
If someone called me a ‘limper’ when I was in the yard on a Saturday there would be trouble; I don’t like it. Using terms like ‘limper’ on ‘trucknet’ helps to create a culture and vocabulary that some idiot might actually use at work. They would get into a lot of trouble; the company I’m driving for at the moment promote a strong ‘family’ ethos. You are expected to help unload the trucks and get stuck in. I like this and I know calling fellow workers names would not be tolerated.
I only work on Saturday; so no shift has been cancelled; I’m at my other job as I’m on salary I work from home sometimes.
gandalfthegrey:
You can’t believe being called a ‘limper’ would provoke outrage?That says everything about you and your intelligence; it is not acceptable in the work place to make derogatory remarks about temporary staff.
So why is it acceptable on here?
I’m from the north too and I was taught in my Co Durham childhood that ‘to get respect you have to give respect’.
Denigrating others for your own amusement isn’t banter, it’s bullying. It isn’t acceptable in any other occupation so why should we allow a term like ‘limper’ to gain a foothold in the transport industry?
So what does it say about me and my intelligence?