Why Pee on a wheel when there is toilet nearby

Clearly the op hasn’t been in some of the gents at these services, get yourself a she wee and join in hun :wink:

del949:
I was thinking of the modesty issue of women walking past on the pavement :slight_smile:

:blush: quite, although i supose they would only see the ‘back’ of somebody, whereas knocked down in the street ‘everything’ may be exposed :blush: :smiley:

I was imagining that this law (if it did ever exist) would have been in the victorian era, so not much traffic to worry about, but lots of ladies on the paths.
standing on the white line of the hard shoulder would be plain silly :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

'cos the draught from passing traffic would blow the spray all over you :slight_smile:

If it was victorian era, the ladies would have been escorted on the inside of the walkway by the gentlemen (on the outside roadside), & the streets would have been filled with many gallons of horse pee & sh…, you wouldnt want to fall over in that!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I think I mentioned it before, I saw a driver in Leigh delamere services, he ■■■■■■ on his wheel then got out a cloth on a stick and cleaned the outside of his cab :laughing:

Lotteea:

green456:
lottea,what makes you think that you are special, do you honestly think that they wee on their wheel because your a female? Have you tried distinguishing between ■■■’s or even knowing if there is anyone sat in the dark cabs from the other side of the vehicle park,unless you can see a glimmer of movement you wouldnt even know anyone was in there, assuming that they even bothered to look. On your assumption I must be special too, cos I see lots of filthy drivers too idle to walk 100 yards to facilities but I dont assume they wee on their wheel when I am in my cab cos they are gay and I am a male. Personaly I dont think your ■■■ enters into the equation, they are just uncouth lazy filthy gits just like the females who can be seen every fri/sat night squatted in shop doorways after the clubs shut in most town centres :sunglasses:

I am not special in any way what so ever I just dont understand why male drivers have to pee up against the wheels when they are in a truckstop or services, side of the road can be acceptable in certain places, but I really dont understand why it has to be done.

Hang on a min,please define ‘certain places’ are you for eg. Sayin it’s ok too pee in hull but not in Lincoln lol do some ‘certain places’ deserve my pee but not others haha my mrs come with me and winjed she couldn’t pee up the wheel go to services so in reply I got her out my was bucket lol she coped pretty well til I negotiated a roundabout lmao

As someone with medically diagnosed and unsolvable continence problems, I’ve come across more than a few possible products in my time.

There are a range of bottles and similar devices available for both genders - even unisex options that fit both genders! The male bottles are available with lids. Many female designs are incompatible with lids, but some are available with lids.

For the sake of hygiene, if you have to use one of these bottles, please seal the urine inside and dump it in a toilet when you next get the chance (all it takes is a quick trip into a cubicle with the bottle in a shoulder bag, wrapped in a carrier bag). When you get the necessary privacy to do so, rinse the bottle out with water and use a suitable disinfectant.

For anyone who has room in their cab for a camping style toilet, that might be the best option of all - though make sure it is well secured, as it’s not something you’d want coming loose under heavy braking!

Public toilets and parking places are only disgusting because we make them that way. Sadly vandalism, what is euphemistically described as “misuse” and the costs of upkeep mean public toilets are being closed.

If you think public toilets are disgusting, the unhygienic way that used catheters and incontinence pads are sometimes discarded is truly horrible. Collecting clinical waste from toilets would not be my idea of a good job.

calebs gramps:

bonnie lass:
Isn’t there an old law saying a driver can ■■■■ against a wheel on the truck, & isn’t there another old law saying if a female is pregnant she may ■■■■ in a policemans helmet !!!

Im probably wrong ,but i thought that was coach drivers that were allowed to do that from some ancient law :question:

As far as I remember it was & still is only a Hackney driver that that can relieve himself at the near side rear wheel.

bubsy06:
I think I mentioned it before, I saw a driver in Leigh delamere services, he ■■■■■■ on his wheel then got out a cloth on a stick and cleaned the outside of his cab :laughing:

Hosepipe ban perhaps! :open_mouth:

coca cola kid:

calebs gramps:

bonnie lass:
Isn’t there an old law saying a driver can ■■■■ against a wheel on the truck, & isn’t there another old law saying if a female is pregnant she may ■■■■ in a policemans helmet !!!

Im probably wrong ,but i thought that was coach drivers that were allowed to do that from some ancient law :question:

As far as I remember it was & still is only a Hackney driver that that can relieve himself at the near side rear wheel.

Perhaps the law hasn’t been totaly abolished then :confused:

Perhaps the law hasn’t been totaly abolished then bonnie lass

I’m fairly certain that under T Blair a law was enacted making it an offence to urinate anywhere in public , probably hidden in the anti-social behaviour legislation

del949:

Perhaps the law hasn’t been totaly abolished then bonnie lass

I’m fairly certain that under T Blair a law was enacted making it an offence to urinate anywhere in public , probably hidden in the anti-social behaviour legislation

Times are changing, the bigger the population the more issues there are & government gotta look busy & be seen to be doing ‘something’ I suppose, however the fact still remains , if you need a pee you got to Go somewhere! :laughing:

del949:
I’m fairly certain that under T Blair a law was enacted making it an offence to urinate anywhere in public , probably hidden in the anti-social behaviour legislation

The legislation you’re thinking of is concerned with Anti-Social Behaviour Orders, which wouldn’t apply to a one-off act of public urination.

I’ve double checked with Halsbury’s Laws of England (the standard legal encyclopaedia) and can find nothing specifically on public urination. In England and Wales, it is most likely to be covered by section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 in the form “disorderly behaviour … within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby”. If so, “[it] is a defence for the accused to prove that he had no reason to believe that there was any person within hearing or sight who was likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress”.

(Before anyone points out that the word ‘he’ appears in that extract from the law, under section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 words of the masculine gender shall be construed as including the feminine gender and vice versa, unless such implication is expressly excluded).

bonnie lass:

bubsy06:
I think I mentioned it before, I saw a driver in Leigh delamere services, he ■■■■■■ on his wheel then got out a cloth on a stick and cleaned the outside of his cab :laughing:

Hosepipe ban perhaps! :open_mouth:

coca cola kid:

calebs gramps:

bonnie lass:
Isn’t there an old law saying a driver can ■■■■ against a wheel on the truck, & isn’t there another old law saying if a female is pregnant she may ■■■■ in a policemans helmet !!!

Im probably wrong ,but i thought that was coach drivers that were allowed to do that from some ancient law :question:

As far as I remember it was & still is only a Hackney driver that that can relieve himself at the near side rear wheel.

Perhaps the law hasn’t been totaly abolished then :confused:

Yup, that’s the ticket. Someone tried this on me the other week and although she too was joking she was quite insistent, so I looked it up (Yes, its on PNLD, search ‘urinate’) and the exception to the law for pregnant women and girls under 6 is exactly as SBG describes - they can pee anywhere (well, anywhere that doesn’t constitute another offence, such as deliberately peeing on someone), without being got at by us for public urination. Some article looking for a quick laugh has probably twisted that to say “even in a bobby’s helmet!!” and the myth has stuck.

this makes some interesting reading from our blue uniformed friends
police999.com/forum/index.php?topic=4884.0

coca cola kid:

bonnie lass:

bubsy06:
I think I mentioned it before, I saw a driver in Leigh delamere services, he ■■■■■■ on his wheel then got out a cloth on a stick and cleaned the outside of his cab :laughing:

Hosepipe ban perhaps! :open_mouth:

coca cola kid:

calebs gramps:

bonnie lass:
Isn’t there an old law saying a driver can ■■■■ against a wheel on the truck, & isn’t there another old law saying if a female is pregnant she may ■■■■ in a policemans helmet !!!

Im probably wrong ,but i thought that was coach drivers that were allowed to do that from some ancient law :question:

As far as I remember it was & still is only a Hackney driver that that can relieve himself at the near side rear wheel.

Perhaps the law hasn’t been totaly abolished then :confused:

Yup, that’s the ticket. Someone tried this on me the other week and although she too was joking she was quite insistent, so I looked it up (Yes, its on PNLD, search ‘urinate’) and the exception to the law for pregnant women and girls under 6 is exactly as SBG describes - they can pee anywhere (well, anywhere that doesn’t constitute another offence, such as deliberately peeing on someone), without being got at by us for public urination. Some article looking for a quick laugh has probably twisted that to say

“even in a bobby’s helmet!!” and the myth has stuck.

It’s quite interesting wether it’s a myth or not, due to the the fact of some weird & wonderfull laws dateing back a couple of hundred years or so , when things where so much different than today :smiley:

del949:
this makes some interesting reading from our blue uniformed friends
police999.com/forum/index.php?topic=4884.0

Yep, it does make interesting reading :smiley:

coca cola kid:

calebs gramps:

bonnie lass:
Isn’t there an old law saying a driver can ■■■■ against a wheel on the truck, & isn’t there another old law saying if a female is pregnant she may ■■■■ in a policemans helmet !!!

Im probably wrong ,but i thought that was coach drivers that were allowed to do that from some ancient law :question:

As far as I remember it was & still is only a Hackney driver that that can relieve himself at the near side rear wheel.

Also carry a bail of hay :laughing:

I thought that is what the space between the cab & trailer on an artic us female’s :unamused: :wink: :wink:

thats why it’s called a catwalk!

Also carry a bail of hay :laughing:

Pooooor horse if he’s gotta eat that bale :laughing:

coca cola kid:
Someone tried this on me the other week and although she too was joking she was quite insistent, so I looked it up (Yes, its on PNLD, search ‘urinate’) and the exception to the law for pregnant women and girls under 6 is exactly as SBG describes - they can pee anywhere (well, anywhere that doesn’t constitute another offence, such as deliberately peeing on someone), without being got at by us for public urination.

IÂ don’t have access to PNLD, so I’m curious - what authority (case names, statute and/or other legal authority) is given for this exception?

IÂ can’t think custom will do, as there’s no clear authority on this stretching back to “time immemorial” (which is actually defined as 1189 by the Statute of Westminster 1215). There’s no specific offence of public urination, I can’t see this exception being in statute either. This either means it is found in case law or it is merely a customary exercise of police discretion that is not backed by specific legal authority.