Ziffy:
I dont give a rats ■■■ if you feel a draw bar requires more skill or not, your still a glorified rigid, end of story. For me you are the bane of my life, and i know its not just me that you lot seem to pull out on, just as we overtake down hill, or whilst we’re goin up hill, just like the poxy know it all car driver.
Oh and before you say it, yes artic drivers do it as well, just not as often.
But then being a biker and artic driver i’m always gonna hate car drivers. especially those little [zb] that think they have the right to police the stretch of road i’m using.
I Drive whatever my boss tells me to but I am quite happy with the size of my ■■■■■ so I don’t care what size the lorry is.
I don’t chose to dress like a homosexual gimp so I don’t ride a motorbike. I do however ride a push bike.
sjjg:
Ziffy:
I dont give a rats ■■■ if you feel a draw bar requires more skill or not, your still a glorified rigid, end of story. For me you are the bane of my life, and i know its not just me that you lot seem to pull out on, just as we overtake down hill, or whilst we’re goin up hill, just like the poxy know it all car driver.
Oh and before you say it, yes artic drivers do it as well, just not as often.
But then being a biker and artic driver i’m always gonna hate car drivers. especially those little [zb] that think they have the right to police the stretch of road i’m using.
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Feel free to visit me and re-educate me
Ha ha ha you big macho artic driver.
I’ve seen some stupid artic drivers in the last few days. Tends to be the visiting out of work grain hauliers in their pimped up Volvos and Scanias that can’t follow a simple one way system. Drive behind reversing quarry plant, tip on the wrong heap…Park infront of stockpiles for a break.
The classic (and most common) is tipping the trailer, then running to undo the tailgate.
That said, AP Bailey, Robinsons of Worcester, Rode Haulage, Barry Jeffrey, R.Adams and a few I can’t remember are totally spot on.
Ziffy:
i dont think there is a single driver that hasn’t done at least 2 of the mentioned items, i hate rigid drivers with a passion, they are all [zb] in my book. and are either claiming to learn the job or are too scared to drive artics. btw that’s all rigids, that includes you Mr wagon and drag (glorified rigid)
Its took you about three years to get this attitude or did you have it from the start!!!
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Tipper drivers eh?!
Thing is Ziffy, not everyone needs a Class1. I’d like to do it but I can’t justify the expense just to say “I have a Class1.” If someone paid for me to do and gave me a job that pays more/the same as I’m on now, was as convenient travel-wise, and meant I was home every night, I’d jump at the chance.
Oh it’d have to be on tippers too.
And no washing/polishing after hours.
it could be all the old experienced drivers thinking they know everything maybe they have lowered the standards as newer drivers have had a more in depth driver training programe to get their licence in the first place
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walterfirelake:
driving standards have dropped, appallingly, the only thing keeping death and injury statistics from climbing to stratispheric levels are the construction methods employed in vehicles today, of all classes, put todays professional lgv licence holder into a scammel handyman I would bet large sums of money on a fatal outcome on day one, I chose that machine purely because I drove one in 1976, not because it was particularily hard to drive, todays licence holders and a ‘‘gate crash’’ box, no power steering, no abs, no I cant go on I’m laughing to much,crossply tyres ,steel suspension, air con of course, slide the window up or down, no insulation from a rolls royce eagles heat or sound save malt sacks over the ‘‘hump’’, scarce use of road salt in winter, and thousands of similar speck vehicles operating from cornwall to caithness, ermmm but not a fraction of the endless mayhem produced by todays ‘‘professional’’, oh and no speed limiters either, you dopey beggars do enough damage at 56
That rings true to me…Even though I have only being driving for 3-4 years.
I did grow up around trucks though.
walterfirelake:
driving standards have dropped, appallingly, the only thing keeping death and injury statistics from climbing to stratispheric levels are the construction methods employed in vehicles today, of all classes, put todays professional lgv licence holder into a scammel handyman I would bet large sums of money on a fatal outcome on day one, I chose that machine purely because I drove one in 1976, not because it was particularily hard to drive, todays licence holders and a ‘‘gate crash’’ box, no power steering, no abs, no I cant go on I’m laughing to much,crossply tyres ,steel suspension, air con of course, slide the window up or down, no insulation from a rolls royce eagles heat or sound save malt sacks over the ‘‘hump’’, scarce use of road salt in winter, and thousands of similar speck vehicles operating from cornwall to caithness, ermmm but not a fraction of the endless mayhem produced by todays ‘‘professional’’, oh and no speed limiters either, you dopey beggars do enough damage at 56
Ziffy:
I dont give a rats ■■■ if you feel a draw bar requires more skill or not, your still a glorified rigid, end of story. For me you are the bane of my life, and i know its not just me that you lot seem to pull out on, just as we overtake down hill, or whilst we’re goin up hill, just like the poxy know it all car driver.
Oh and before you say it, yes artic drivers do it as well, just not as often.
But then being a biker and artic driver i’m always gonna hate car drivers. especially those little [zb] that think they have the right to police the stretch of road i’m using.
Us Super link drivers think all you single arctic trailer drivers are all wanabies, just a rigid with a bendy bit near the front
JLS Driver SOS:
Us Super link drivers think all you single arctic trailer drivers are all wanabies, just a rigid with a bendy bit near the front![]()
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Winseer:
Yes, sometimes you can be the last one actually DUE back, and still be considered “crap” should you not elect to “carve it up”!The scene is like:
8pm. TM office. 5 drivers on various finishes from 20:30 to 22:00.
TM:
“We’re just waiting for Winny now Then we can all go home. He’s the last one, due back at 21:00”Waiting Driver:
“Well, if he ain’t back in 15 minutes, I’ll be putting a turd in his sleeping bag!” :twisted:
I dont recall reading that bit in the Adventures of Winnie the ■■■
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Have to agree, advancement in technology over the last decade has an input, the rest remains to human error.
The only error to man, is man itself.
As for owning up ? nah, ile save that for my memoires .
…except…
The occasion when had stopped to shower in a quiet spot,
appearing from out of nowhere did a group of japanese tourists with cameras clicking and flashing
I bow my head and ask for forgiveness , like eck, to error is human
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.yours truly … windypops… not sent by tapakeyboardifitwontwork
Mike-C:
Ziffy:
i dont think there is a single driver that hasn’t done at least 2 of the mentioned items, i hate rigid drivers with a passion, they are all [zb] in my book. and are either claiming to learn the job or are too scared to drive artics. btw that’s all rigids, that includes you Mr wagon and drag (glorified rigid)Its took you about three years to get this attitude or did you have it from the start!!!
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Tipper drivers eh?!
Thing is i have grown up in the industry, i served my apprenticeship, drove 1t vans, moved up gradually, so over the last 20 years i have hated rigids more and more. The only time i drove a rigid for a living was to do nights until an artic job came up. But because i was aware of the artics momentum, i knew no point in overtaking it going up hill knowing full well i could be in its was on the way back down the other side. I and certainly wouldnt pull out to overtake down hill with an artic doing the very same. But hey thats just me.
Ziffy:
Thing is i have grown up in the industry, i served my apprenticeship, drove 1t vans, moved up gradually, so over the last 20 years i have hated rigids more and more. The only time i drove a rigid for a living was to do nights until an artic job came up. But because i was aware of the artics momentum, i knew no point in overtaking it going up hill knowing full well i could be in its was on the way back down the other side. I and certainly wouldnt pull out to overtake down hill with an artic doing the very same. But hey thats just me.
I could never get why 44t artics would try to overtake me at 26t going uphill on the A34 over the Ridgeway, and why I’m expected to lose momentum and make right their ■■■■-up?
I agree with overtaking artics downhill; Always stayed behind especially on the M40 at Stokenchurch (I was nearly always empty Oxford bound anyway).
Ziffy:
I dont give a rats ■■■ if you feel a draw bar requires more skill or not, your still a glorified rigid, end of story. For me you are the bane of my life, and i know its not just me that you lot seem to pull out on, just as we overtake down hill, or whilst we’re goin up hill, just like the poxy know it all car driver.
Oh and before you say it, yes artic drivers do it as well, just not as often.
But then being a biker and artic driver i’m always gonna hate car drivers. especially those little [zb] that think they have the right to police the stretch of road i’m using.
Your argument is going to look a bit stupid if they ever allow a six wheeler rigid to pull a 45 ft semi trailer using a drawbar dolly.Maybe that explains why so many artic drivers are against the idea here.
By the way I drove artics for (a lot) more years than I did drawbars and the only reason why the drawbar wasn’t faster than the artic was because it was a zb Merc 2534 limited to 90 kmh instead of something like a DAF 2800 without one.But the next time you try to overtake one going downhill just remember he could pull up a lot quicker than you without jacknifing assuming of course it’s a real one not a caravan type.
Your talking a bit of sense for once Geoff an a frame now that sorts the men from the boys.
Mad to think if you passed your old type class 2 before a certain date you could be let loose on the roads with an a frame and or something longer than an artic anyway.
Muckaway:
Ziffy:
Thing is i have grown up in the industry, i served my apprenticeship, drove 1t vans, moved up gradually, so over the last 20 years i have hated rigids more and more. The only time i drove a rigid for a living was to do nights until an artic job came up. But because i was aware of the artics momentum, i knew no point in overtaking it going up hill knowing full well i could be in its was on the way back down the other side. I and certainly wouldnt pull out to overtake down hill with an artic doing the very same. But hey thats just me.I could never get why 44t artics would try to overtake me at 26t going uphill on the A34 over the Ridgeway, and why I’m expected to lose momentum and make right their ■■■■-up?
I agree with overtaking artics downhill; Always stayed behind especially on the M40 at Stokenchurch (I was nearly always empty Oxford bound anyway).
You should of backed of and let him through he has a great big juggernaut not that stupid overgrown transit you drive.
kr79:
Your talking a bit of sense for once Geoff an a frame now that sorts the men from the boys.
Mad to think if you passed your old type class 2 before a certain date you could be let loose on the roads with an a frame and or something longer than an artic anyway.
That’s what I’ve been trying to tell him but he won’t listen.
As I’ve said elsewhere I had my (real) class 2 during those times but could never find any employers using drawbars who’d agree with that actual licencing entitlement anyway and that was even without the problem of being under 25 with no experience.