wheres carryfast when we need him■■?
winseer would do at a push…
This is France today. This is what happens when you have a left wing government in charge and welcome every Tom ■■■■ and Mohammed.
ArcticMonkey:
Grandpa:
You’re out in the wilderness with this one Rjan, as you are with most of what’s going around you. No one is saying all Muslims are bad, but what did you expect to happen if Europe opened its borders to millions of predominantly young male Muslims? Did you expect them to abandon their religion and culture and join in with ours? It’s not a few bad apples, it’s hundreds of thousands of bad apples. Even the director of EUs counter-terror unit says there are upwards of 25K potential Muslim terrorists in the UK alone. Even the government says they’re a ‘significant threat.’Grooming gangs of Muslim men failed to integrate into British society
‘Researchers, who analysed 264 convictions of grooming gang members since 2005, had initially expected to find Asians had been unfairly singled out. However, they discovered that 222 of those convicted, or 84 per cent, were men of Asian origin. Only 22 were black and 18 were white with two offenders not having an identified ethnicity. The findings are in stark contrast to the fact Asians make up only seven per cent of the UK population, the report said.’UK home to up to 25,000 Islamist extremists who could pose threat, EU official warns | The Independent | The Independent
‘UK home to up to 25,000 Islamist extremists who could pose threat, EU official warns …’Many people stay silent and pretend nothing is wrong, but you’re one of the few Rjan who actually try to believe it isn’t even happening. Lib Dem on steroids?
For those that really want to know where all this stems from, here’s an interesting 45 minute video that explains how all this arose from the EU.
Love Douglas Murray. He’s a posh mans Tommy Robinson. Hence the reason he gets airtime on the mainstream media
Yes, he’s good, but he simply explains well what is commonly known and what the British tapped into at the 2016 referendum. Europe has a long history of trying to build utopias and none of them ever worked. The consequences are what we’re beginning to see now and it will get worse the longer we stick with it.
It could never happen here? It’s already happening.
ArcticMonkey:
0This is France today. This is what happens when you have a left wing government in charge and welcome every Tom ■■■■ and Mohammed.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and france is only a transit country…the uk is at the end of the cul de sac where theres no need to return.
Mazzer2:
Rjan:
…Being called white trash and the rapists regularly saying that as the girls were white they were worthless doesn’t bring in a racial element then? call a black person worthless because of the colour of their skin and see how long it takes to get a knock at the door
The use of racially aggravated insults does not prove the cause or motive for the ■■■■■■ abuse is a racist ideology shared by most or all Muslims, as is frequently alleged.
You seem to have a major problem seeing and understanding what is written, yes I pointed that Ann Cryer initially blew the whistle but it was her own party who told her it wasn’t happening, it was only taken seriously when the Times did a big investigation into it. Have you read none of the court transcripts from the hundreds of convictions involving these grooming gangs you really are proving yourself to be an apologist for Muslim rapists.
Provide me with a transcript and I’ll read it then. It still seems to me you’re not being specific - to say “the party” told an MP something “wasn’t happening”, what exactly does that mean? An MP is an enormously powerful individual, both within the party and in society at large, and certainly isn’t going to just be told black is white (so to speak) by some party bureaucrat.
The research I’ve seen doesn’t suggest Cryer blamed the Labour party at all. In fact the only person she specifically names is Ken Livingstone, whose concern wasn’t to frustrate her, it was expressing concern about how the far-right would exploit the matter to tar the whole Muslim community. To quote Cryer, “I also understood that my actions would give ammunition to the fascists and white racists to stir up hatred of all Muslims.”, which unsurprisingly is exactly what’s going on here.
The only person responsible for a ■■■■ is the person who carries it out not social conditions or the state of the victim, I hope no one in your family ever suffers a ■■■■■■ attack because there’ll be little sympathy from you “What do you mean you had an ankle on display? You must have been practically gagging for it”.
That’s a dirty and vicious smear against me. I haven’t said anything of the sort that victims were “gagging for it” or “showing ankle”, I’ve said that victims are quite legitimately seeking love, attention, and security, and they are falling into the hands of abusers precisely because they aren’t receiving these things in the normal ways.
For the most your socialist posts are typical of the left and pretty harmless but on this subject you are way off the mark but then it is well known that the left has a problem with mysogny so I suppose you’re just living up to type
And that’s another dirty smear against me, because I haven’t endorsed misogyny either.
Grandpa:
You’re out in the wilderness with this one Rjan, as you are with most of what’s going around you. No one is saying all Muslims are bad, but what did you expect to happen if Europe opened its borders to millions of predominantly young male Muslims? Did you expect them to abandon their religion and culture and join in with ours? It’s not a few bad apples, it’s hundreds of thousands of bad apples. Even the director of EUs counter-terror unit says there are upwards of 25K potential Muslim terrorists in the UK alone. Even the government says they’re a ‘significant threat.’
But you’re opening up another separate front here. These grooming gangs have nothing to do with terrorists or terrorism.
I broadly agree that if the agenda was to keep bombing the Middle East and toppling regimes there, then it was a bad idea to have allowed immigration from those areas.
But things have actually occurred the other way around - the original waves of immigration occurred mostly under the Tories in the 1950s, the bombings and topplings have largely occurred very recently.
Rjan:
Grandpa:
You’re out in the wilderness with this one Rjan, as you are with most of what’s going around you. No one is saying all Muslims are bad, but what did you expect to happen if Europe opened its borders to millions of predominantly young male Muslims? Did you expect them to abandon their religion and culture and join in with ours? It’s not a few bad apples, it’s hundreds of thousands of bad apples. Even the director of EUs counter-terror unit says there are upwards of 25K potential Muslim terrorists in the UK alone. Even the government says they’re a ‘significant threat.’But you’re opening up another separate front here. These grooming gangs have nothing to do with terrorists or terrorism.
I broadly agree that if the agenda was to keep bombing the Middle East and toppling regimes there, then it was a bad idea to have allowed immigration from those areas.
But things have actually occurred the other way around - the original waves of immigration occurred mostly under the Tories in the 1950s, the bombings and topplings have largely occurred very recently.
It’s all interconnected with a culture that is still based on century’s old backward beliefs. Violence, voluntary segregation, grooming … The immigration wasn’t from the Middle East in the 50s. The majority people from the Caribbean and the former colonies eventually became assimilated. Muslims don’t assimilate wherever they go. As their numbers increase the problems just get worse.
Grandpa:
Rjan:
…Are you seriously trying to compare the previous British idea of ‘a woman’s place is in the home’ to how Muslims perceive and treat women, including Sharia law?
But how many actually abide by this “Sharia law”?
White society still suffers from pockets of extreme misogyny, such as so-called “incels”. Even mainstream society still battles over women’s rights such as abortion in Northern Ireland.
Talking about Sharia law in foreign warzones is hardly representative of Muslims in British society.
Everyone is willing to concede that the Muslim community is, on average, far more socially conservative than the norm. But only as conservative as the 1950s white middle class.
Rjan:
Grandpa:
Rjan:
…Are you seriously trying to compare the previous British idea of ‘a woman’s place is in the home’ to how Muslims perceive and treat women, including Sharia law?
But how many actually abide by this “Sharia law”?
White society still suffers from pockets of extreme misogyny, such as so-called “incels”. Even mainstream society still battles over women’s rights such as abortion in Northern Ireland.
Talking about Sharia law in foreign warzones is hardly representative of Muslims in British society.
Everyone is willing to concede that the Muslim community is, on average, far more socially conservative than the norm. But only as conservative as the 1950s white middle class.
Just looked this up and 40% of UK muslims want sharia law
Rjan…read this piece and tell me you’re not worried for our future and the freedoms we hold so dear, because voting labour will only accelerate what impending doom we are heading for unless something drastic changes.
ArcticMonkey:
Rjan…read this piece and tell me you’re not worried for our future and the freedoms we hold so dear, because voting labour will only accelerate what impending doom we are heading for unless something drastic changes.
Rjan like all Socialists couldn’t care less.We’ve been here before both in the form of the Austro Hungarian and National Socialist Ottoman alliances followed by Tito’s similar suicidal social engineering policies.
ArcticMonkey:
Rjan:
Grandpa:
Rjan:
…Are you seriously trying to compare the previous British idea of ‘a woman’s place is in the home’ to how Muslims perceive and treat women, including Sharia law?
But how many actually abide by this “Sharia law”?
White society still suffers from pockets of extreme misogyny, such as so-called “incels”. Even mainstream society still battles over women’s rights such as abortion in Northern Ireland.
Talking about Sharia law in foreign warzones is hardly representative of Muslims in British society.
Everyone is willing to concede that the Muslim community is, on average, far more socially conservative than the norm. But only as conservative as the 1950s white middle class.
Just looked this up and 40% of UK muslims want sharia law
That is at least half true.
Assuming that is, we`re seeing the same source that says 40% want “some aspects of Sharia Law”.
That means of course that 60% want NO aspects of Sharia Law.
ArcticMonkey:
Rjan…read this piece and tell me you’re not worried for our future and the freedoms we hold so dear, because voting labour will only accelerate what impending doom we are heading for unless something drastic changes.
A “lifesitenews” opinion piece.
An opinion piece.
“lifesitenews” is LifeSiteNews
Campaign Life Coalition founded LifeSiteNews, a self described news website dedicated to “issues of culture, life, and family”, in 1997.[1] The website was founded with the intent to promote anti-abortion views and to push back on a purported media conspiracy against the anti-abortion movement.[14]
“According to Snopes, LifeSiteNews is “a known purveyor of misleading information.”[15] The Associated Press described the website as “ultraconservative.”[16] In May 2019, Philip Pullela, in a Reuters article, wrote that the website “often is a platform for attacks on [Pope Francis].”[17] The LGBT magazine The Advocate has described LifeSiteNews as an anti-LGBT outlet. Articles on the website blame pedophilia on homosexuality, contrary to the scholarly consensus.[18]
A Catholic priest, Raymond Gravel, filed a lawsuit in Quebec against the website in 2011 for defamation.[19][20] Subsequently, Gravel died of lung cancer on August 11, 2014.[21] In 2013, the lawsuit was allowed to advance to trial by a Quebec court.[22]
Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong has criticized LifeSiteNews for what he calls its “radical Catholic reactionary” stance.[23]”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_Life_Coalition
“A factual search reveals that LifeSiteNews has failed a few fact checks by IFCN fact checkers.
Target is donating $100,000 to “promote gay lifestyles to school children.” – MOSTLY FALSE
Parents in California are not allowed to pull their children out of ■■■■■■ education classes. – MOSTLY FALSE
The proceeds of Girl Scout Cookies are used to support Planned Parenthood. – FALSE”
“Editorially, every single story is right leaning, such as this story that also sources non-credible sources such as Rush Limbaugh and CNSNews. In general, story selection favors the Christian right and denigrates the left.”
mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/
And from the article itself
“In 2018, there were also more than a thousand anti-Christian attacks (mostly, the desecration of churches),”
fullfact.org/online/french-church-map/
Is writing “I waz Here” on a cemetary wall, or is a fire in a car park, really an “anti -Christian attack”?
dieseldog999:
ArcticMonkey:
0This is France today. This is what happens when you have a left wing government in charge and welcome every Tom ■■■■ and Mohammed.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and france is only a transit country…the uk is at the end of the cul de sac where theres no need to return.
fullfact.org/immigration/how-ma … s-uk-take/
“In 2018, Germany (139,555), Italy (47,885), France (41,440), Austria (20,700) and Sweden (19,605) all granted asylum to more people than the UK.
If you only look at asylum granted to refugees (so not people with other forms of humanitarian protection), the UK is fourth behind Germany (61,350), France (27,135) and Austria (14,815).
The story is similar in 2017. Germany, France, Italy, Austria and Sweden all granted asylum to more people than the UK, and all but Italy granted asylum to more refugees than the UK.”
Follow the link for the full story.
Franglais yet no doubt you will get your news from sources such as the BBC, Sky and the daily rags who all tell lies. John Sweeney of Panorama was forced out due to Tommy Robinson having secret recordings of him conspiring how he could stitch TR up with fake stories. Sky news tried the same by cutting and pasting an interview with TR but they didn’t realise he had the full unedited version on his phone which he’d recorded. Even yesterday Channel 4 news were rolling out fake news on Boris calling people coloured when really he said talent. The masses need to know that mainstream media is full of lies and has a leftist agenda.
Look at Twitter. The Saudis have about a 50% share in this platform. Is it any coincidence that if you have conservative right leaning views you are de-platformed such as calling the congresswoman Omar an anti semite or even showing support for Tommy Robinson, yet islamists can still peddle their hate on such sites. The Saudi who killed those sailors in America the other day was able to tweet his hatred for America prior to killing folk ffs
ArcticMonkey:
Franglais yet no doubt you will get your news from sources such as the BBC, Sky and the daily rags who all tell lies. John Sweeney of Panorama was forced out due to Tommy Robinson having secret recordings of him conspiring how he could stitch TR up with fake stories. Sky news tried the same by cutting and pasting an interview with TR but they didn’t realise he had the full unedited version on his phone which he’d recorded. Even yesterday Channel 4 news were rolling out fake news on Boris calling people coloured when really he said talent. The masses need to know that mainstream media is full of lies and has a leftist agenda.
Look at Twitter. The Saudis have about a 50% share in this platform. Is it any coincidence that if you have conservative right leaning views you are de-platformed such as calling the congresswoman Omar an anti semite or even showing support for Tommy Robinson, yet islamists can still peddle their hate on such sites. The Saudi who killed those sailors in America the other day was able to tweet his hatred for America prior to killing folk ffs
Are there hateful tweets from ALL sides on Twitter? Yes.
Are there hateful messages on WhatsAp and other platforms? Yes.
I willingly condemn them all.
Pointing to a hateful message in order to justify another hateful message? Crazy
Are any news outlets 100% correct all the time? No.
Few are as bad as “lifesitenews” however.
Franglais:
ArcticMonkey:
Franglais yet no doubt you will get your news from sources such as the BBC, Sky and the daily rags who all tell lies. John Sweeney of Panorama was forced out due to Tommy Robinson having secret recordings of him conspiring how he could stitch TR up with fake stories. Sky news tried the same by cutting and pasting an interview with TR but they didn’t realise he had the full unedited version on his phone which he’d recorded. Even yesterday Channel 4 news were rolling out fake news on Boris calling people coloured when really he said talent. The masses need to know that mainstream media is full of lies and has a leftist agenda.
Look at Twitter. The Saudis have about a 50% share in this platform. Is it any coincidence that if you have conservative right leaning views you are de-platformed such as calling the congresswoman Omar an anti semite or even showing support for Tommy Robinson, yet islamists can still peddle their hate on such sites. The Saudi who killed those sailors in America the other day was able to tweet his hatred for America prior to killing folk ffsAre there hateful tweets from ALL sides on Twitter? Yes.
Are there hateful messages on WhatsAp and other platforms? Yes.
I willingly condemn them all.
Pointing to a hateful message in order to justify another hateful message? CrazyAre any news outlets 100% correct all the time? No.
Few are as bad as “lifesitenews” however.
The difference is regarding the big tech social media giants is that they’re de-platforming so many people who have right leaning views but not doing the same to the extreme left such as antifa who are a violent organisation who openly encourage violence against the “right wing”, or hope not hate who again encourage violence and who are in bed with people who have links to islamic terrorist groups.
You know what twitter is like yourself surely?. People are getting arrested for misgendering someone now. You show support for Tommy Robinson and you get a suspension and eventual closed account on facebook. You state facts from the Koran and get called an islamaphobic. Blasphemous laws are already creeping in where you are not allowed to criticise islam but on the same level all other religions are fair game. This is how they will enventually take over the West with creeping sharia. They are on record as admitting this. They plan to immigrate to the West, produce more children all the while taking advantage of our civil liberties and making it harder for us to complain against them and then in a few generations they will outnumber us and will vote their lot in and then it’s curtains for us forever.
Rjan:
Grandpa:
Rjan:
…Are you seriously trying to compare the previous British idea of ‘a woman’s place is in the home’ to how Muslims perceive and treat women, including Sharia law?
But how many actually abide by this “Sharia law”?
White society still suffers from pockets of extreme misogyny, such as so-called “incels”. Even mainstream society still battles over women’s rights such as abortion in Northern Ireland.
Talking about Sharia law in foreign warzones is hardly representative of Muslims in British society.
Everyone is willing to concede that the Muslim community is, on average, far more socially conservative than the norm. But only as conservative as the 1950s white middle class.
Who knows the real numbers, but as it’s a central aspect of their culture it would be high. It would be like saying how many in the west don’t believe in democracy and give me numbers. Sharia law isn’t anything to do with foreign warzones, its part of Islamic teaching.
No, not everyone believes Muslims are conservative in a western sense, they favour a theocratic dictatorship which is the opposite of democracy. Having your wife walk three paces behind you with a bag over her head has nothing to do with conservatism.
Here’s a short piece I wrote in my spare time for ‘Russia Insider’ a few years ago explaining what Islam is.
ArcticMonkey:
Just looked this up and 40% of UK muslims want sharia law
Two things. Firstly that shows a majority don’t. Secondly, how do that 40% define Sharia law?
It’s like asking the average Brit do they want conservative values - it could mean anything.
ArcticMonkey:
Rjan…read this piece and tell me you’re not worried for our future and the freedoms we hold so dear, because voting labour will only accelerate what impending doom we are heading for unless something drastic changes.
ArcticMonkey, I’ll ask you first, do you really want me to spend an hour or more writing a post which pulls apart every item of this right-wing nonsense?
Obama did say “the future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam.”.
But he said it in the following context, having reeled off a series of other groups to whom “the future must not belong”:
The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied. (Applause.)
obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/th … l-assembly
In other words, Obama was doing nothing more than warning Muslims that if they want credibility when they condemn slander of their own religion, they must condemn those who slander other religions.
Whereas your man writing the article uses that quote to justify saying of Obama: “Many of his [Obama’s] policies and appointments seemed geared to ensure that critics of Islam would have no future.”
Grandpa:
Rjan:
…Who knows the real numbers, but as it’s a central aspect of their culture it would be high. It would be like saying how many in the west don’t believe in democracy and give me numbers. Sharia law isn’t anything to do with foreign warzones, its part of Islamic teaching.
No, not everyone believes Muslims are conservative in a western sense, they favour a theocratic dictatorship which is the opposite of democracy. Having your wife walk three paces behind you with a bag over her head has nothing to do with conservatism.
Here’s a short piece I wrote in my spare time for ‘Russia Insider’ a few years ago explaining what Islam is.
Muslim Terrorism: The Reality Behind Multicultural Propaganda
Load of cobblers. What is “Islamic teaching”? Something which happens to appear in a holy book that is millenia old, or something which the majority of British Muslims actually subscribe to?
And who are “they” who favour “a theocratic dictatorship”? The rural populace of foreign warzones, or the majority of British Muslims?
Honestly I ask you, when you bump into a van driver at work who looks a bit Middle Eastern but has a London or Bradford accent or whatever, do you really think he goes home and has his wife walking three paces behind him with a bag over her head, and that this is representative of the norm?