Truckulent:
The-Snowman:
Truckulent:
The-Snowman:
chaversdad:
Most burgalarys are commited between midnight and 6am, just saying
What’s your point? The police should ignore speeders doing double the limit and go cruising around looking for guys in stripy jumpers carrying bags marked “swag”?
I see dozens of speeders every day but I can’t ever recall seeing someone half in a window passing a tv or dvd player out of it.
Speed kills. End of story. If everyone has such a big bee in their bonnet about the police only using this as a cash cow then perhaps everyone should stop speeding.
I read an internet story yesterday that said some police constabulery somewhere had made hundreds of thousands of pounds from catching speeding drivers. All the comments were about how the police should be out catching real criminals and they were just fleecing motorists and “out to get them” blah blah blah. Not ONE person thought to comment that this equated to thousands of speeding drivers.
Utter rubbish. If it did, every person on every aeroplane would die. Every motor racing driver would die in every race, every time they went fast. Every passenger on every high speed train would die.
You’ve fallen for the BS.
Inappropriate use of speed can certainly be a factor in an accident. But in itself it is not in the least bit dangerous. 80mph on a clear, dry motorway is likely to be a lot safer than 30mph outside a school with kids running about in the road everywhere.
People hate the plod with the radar guns because they place them cynically, as in the op’s case. Put them outside a hospital, or school at 3-4pm, not at the bottom of a hill on a long stretch of A road at midnight, and the credibility would improve markedly.
The law is the law, that argument is certainly true. But to try to justify that with the sweeping statement that speed kills is where it falls flat on it’s face.
Are you for real? You take a quote which is perfectly legitimate in the context of the conversation and try to turn it into something that its not? Are you just trolling around looking for holes to pick in posts? Coz that’s what it looks like. The OP didnt say he was in a plane,a train or a racing car. Why even be a [zb] and bring that totally idiotic comment into it? He was on a public road. Where speed kills if you happen to be the unfortunate person in the path of some muppet who thinks its ok to put his foot down just because he THINKS its safe and clear.
Speed does kill. Are you going to try and pick holes in my next statement where I tell you if you get hit by a car at 30mph you’ve a decent chance of surviving but get hit at 58mph and you have a 90% chance of serious injury or death?
If the comment “speed kills” is BS then perhaps you’d care to attend a meeting with the families of people killed by speeding drivers and explain to THEM the inaccuracy of the slogan. Try your plane and train counter argument with them,see how far that get’s you.
It sounds like your the one who’s fallen for the BS. Putting radar guns outside schools at at 3-4pm or a hospital will catch speeding drivers but there should not be any at midnight because it’s only used to raise revenue? Are you nuts? Can you imagine the utter carnage if there was no chance of getting caught just because it was late at night? Do you think there is zero chance of anyone getting hit by a speeder at that time? Or is no one allowed to walk at night so that you can get the foot down unimpeded?
Here’s a thought. If your so sure it’s only to raise revenue then stick to the limit. If everyone did that then there would be no money raised. It’s not rocket science. It makes absolutely no difference to me where they sit with their radar guns because I never go fast enough to get in trouble. If its 30,I do 30. If its 40,then I do 40. The only people who have a problem with them are the ones who either get caught or don’t have the attention span required to take notice of the speed limit. It is signposted inside a big red circle on every road
As with all the folk that bleat this bs, you have jumped on your high horse about families that have had members killed! No one was killed though here were they? And I know of at least one person killed locally, where the driver was under the speed limit (according to the police investigation). Is that OK then, as they weren’t speeding? They were not speeding, but their speed was inappropriate. Your statement that you always do the speed limit, if true, would indicate that at times you are highly likely to be driving too fast for the conditions.
You were the one that stated speed kills. You did not refer it only to the OPs case. It does not. It is inappropriate use of speed that kills. And you can’t, as many others like you, see the difference between my statement and your own.
If speed kills, I will ask you why, this afternoon, as I did 75mph on the motorway, I am still here? Excellent visibility, dry road, little traffic. However, I did only 15-20mph in a 30mph the other day because of the poor visibility. That is adjusting your speed to the conditions, not following the big number in a red circle.
The OP was out of order, as he admitted. However, justifying cynically placed cameras with bs, will never be popular with anyone intelligent enough to understand it. A good driver adjusts their speed to the conditions. They do not treat limits as targets on the presumption that, if they are not going to get a ticket they must be safe!! 
There you go trolling again. Picking holes in statements. Do you not have the sense or intelligence to read between the lines? Do I have to spell EVERYTHING out to you and cover all eventualities? I do the speed limit where appropriate but if it is poor visibility then I go slower to match the conditions. Happy now?
And to keep picking holes in my speed kills comment by mentioning the fact you don’t die just because your going fast is mind boggling at best. It shows you up for the small minded person you are. To clarify,speed does not neccesserily kill. Only when used in the wrong circumstances. I’ll give you that. Not once have you condemmed speeding dangerously though. your only bug bear seems to be getting caught.
To answer your question,you did 75mph on a motorway and you are still here because nothing dangerous happened. No cars cut in front of you,nothing fell off a bridge into your path,no nutcases tried to cross the motorway. But frankly your clutching at straws using that as an example. There is a BIG difference from going 5mph over the limit on a motorway to going double the limit in a built up area.
Yes I stated speed kills but did not refer it to the ops case. Read back my previous posts on the subject. I state that it is the replies trying to justify it that are boiling my blood. Comments like yours. I refer you to my earlier comment. At 58mph there is a 98% chance of death,where as 30mph is 7%. That’s a big margin where speed is a major factor between life and death. And before you pick holes AGAIN,im perfectly aware that 58 in a 60 is legal. Does not change the statistic though. A good driver will scan ahead and adjust for even the possibility of any dangers.
So no one was killed in the OPs situation. Does that make it ok? Or does it make it lucky? Is it allowed as long as no one gets hurt? Using your logic of nit picking that means that all instances of illegal speeding are perfectly fine till someone is killed. Only THEN does it become a problem. But it’s a bit late for the family then isn’t it?
In the case you mentioned,no it’s not ok just because the driver wasn’t speeding. Again,very sorry I didn’t clarify that fairly obvious fact. But im not saying its only when breaking the limit that its not ok. Im saying stop trying to make out it’s ok to speed just because the road is quiet.
The OP was speeding at almost twice the limit. That isn’t an inappropriate use of speed,it’s down right dangerous. He got caught. More importantly,he learned his lesson before someone lost their life. A lesson you don’t sound like your going to learn due to your constant attempts at justifying it.
Quite frankly your total disregard for my argument about speeders makes me question if you are worthy to be on the road behind the wheel. You obviously see nothing wrong with speeding and your unbelievable contempt towards my comment about families is making my blood boil.
Cynically placed cameras will never be popular with anyone with the intelligence to understand it. This coming from someone who tries to justify speeding and ■■■-pooing the possible loss of life involved when it all goes wrong. Doesn’t sound like im the one short of intelligence.
When I said speed kills,I meant it kills when things go wrong,not every time. I cant believe I have to clarify that to someone above 5 years of age. Are you sure you have the common sense to be allowed to drive? Because to not see that is what the comment meant worries me that you get behind the wheel. And your on a truckers forum. I dont know what kind of license you have or work you do but you might be pulling up to 44 tons.
Plus you keep bleating on about motorways. Your point is true. But OP wasn’t on a motorway was he? He was in a built up area (the clues in the 30mph limit) So going at almost 60 is not dangerous? you don’t think there is maybe a chance someone will step out from between bushes or a parked car for example? Yes 75 on a motorway might not be as dangerous. But 58 in a built up area?
Your main problem seems to be the placement of said radar gun camera. Anyone with any sense would know that at night when it is quiet then people take the (zb) with regrds to what speed they are doing,only watching for police cars and static cameras. So do away with “cynical” cameras and you have people doing stupid speeds because they will not get caught. It is the possibility of a hidden camera that keeps most peoples speed down. This can only be a good thing. Or are you going to tell me that’s wrong as well? Am I believing the BS with that one too?
Yes I jumped on my high horse about families of people who have been killed.
I had two brothers till 5 years ago. Now I have one. Take a wild stab what happened to him.
That’s why people like you really get on my goat.
