hi lads first of all can u do 3 15 hour days back to back and second of all if you work a 13 hour 15min day is that classed as a 15.i said to my boss you can not do 3 15s back to back he yes you can.and he reckons a 13h 15m is not classed as a 15 who is right do i owe him an apoligy or throw something at him 
thanks in advance fellers.
first question yes you can do 3 15s back to back and also anything over 13 hours is also i think classed as a 15
you can do 3X15’s back to back.
a 13 hour 15 minute day, is classed as a 13 hour 15 minute day, not a 15 hour day.
you can actually do 6X15 hour days, as long as you take an unbroken 3 hour break on 3 of the days.
i worked sunday through to saturday last week quite legally. now i bet you don’t know how.
carpboy:
can u do 3 15 hour days back to back
Yes - they are all using the maximum reduced daily rest of 9 hours allowed under the regs
carpboy:
if you work a 13 hour 15min day is that classed as a 15
Sort of - it is a reduced daily rest
limeyphil:
you can do 3X15’s back to back.
a 13 hour 15 minute day, is classed as a 13 hour 15 minute day, not a 15 hour day.
you can actually do 6X15 hour days, as long as you take an unbroken 3 hour break on 3 of the days.
i worked sunday through to saturday last week quite legally. now i bet you don’t know how.
Or you have a reduced weekly rest midweek which allows you to do 3x15s mon, tue & wed - weekly rest on thu then 3x15s on fri, sat & sun - you could do that every other week if you have regular weekly rests midweek
limeyphil:
i worked sunday through to saturday last week quite legally. now i bet you don’t know how.
Start noon sunday and finish noon saturday is one possibility
yes you can do 3x 15 hour days back to back,but i was always under the impression ANYTHING over a 13 hour day is classed as a 15■■.thats the way ive always done it anyway,if ive gone into say a 13 hour 15 min day its a 15 in my view.
limeyphil:
you can do 3X15’s back to back.
a 13 hour 15 minute day, is classed as a 13 hour 15 minute day, not a 15 hour day.
you can actually do 6X15 hour days, as long as you take an unbroken 3 hour break on 3 of the days.
i worked sunday through to saturday last week quite legally. now i bet you don’t know how.
im thinking split rest for 3 days.
buck73:
yes you can do 3x 15 hour days back to back,but i was always under the impression ANYTHING over a 13 hour day is classed as a 15■■.thats the way ive always done it anyway,if ive gone into say a 13 hour 15 min day its a 15 in my view.
You are classifying it incorrectly - it is a reduced daily rest
The regs do not mention the hours worked in a day - they only mention the amount of rest taken within a certain time period
ROG:
The regs do not mention the hours worked in a day - they only mention the amount of rest taken within a certain time period
Example - your shift is from 0600 to 2000 which is 14 hours
If you say that is a 15 hour day then you are saying that you cannot start thee next shift until 0600 the next day - 15+9=24
If you say that is a reduced daily rest for which you can take the minimum 9 hour reduced daily rest then you can start at 0500 the next day - 14+9=23
Taking that extra 1 hour to make the rest 10 hours in the first example means you are using 1 hour of rest which counts for nothing as daily rest does not need to be paid back.
If you wanted to take that 1 hour for your own personal needs then that is up to you.
limeyphil:
you can actually do 6X15 hour days, as long as you take an unbroken 3 hour break on 3 of the days.
i worked sunday through to saturday last week quite legally. now i bet you don’t know how.
So how do you want to take 11 hours rests, if you do your 6X15 hours days and you have to finish your rest within 24 hrs of the start of your shift? Do your days have 26 hours?
limeyphil:
you can actually do 6X15 hour days, as long as you take an unbroken 3 hour break on 3 of the days.
i worked sunday through to saturday last week quite legally. now i bet you don’t know how.
orys:
So how do you want to take 11 hours rests, if you do your 6X15 hours days and you have to finish your rest within 24 hrs of the start of your shift? Do your days have 26 hours?
You do not have to take 11 hours daily rest on split rest days - just 3 unbroken hours of rest during the shift and then 9 at the end - example coming up…
start 0600
3 hours of rest (also counts as break) from 1200 to 1500 finish at 2100 - and then repeat for the next day and the next etc etc - no reduced daily rest taken
orys:
limeyphil:
you can actually do 6X15 hour days, as long as you take an unbroken 3 hour break on 3 of the days.
i worked sunday through to saturday last week quite legally. now i bet you don’t know how.So how do you want to take 11 hours rests, if you do your 6X15 hours days and you have to finish your rest within 24 hrs of the start of your shift? Do your days have 26 hours?
3 hours unbroken break during your shift followed by a 9 hour rest. “split rest.”
ROG:
limeyphil:
i worked sunday through to saturday last week quite legally. now i bet you don’t know how.Start noon sunday and finish noon saturday is one possibility
correct.
Yes, but with split rest your shift is not long for 15 hours - as you have taken 3 hours of your daily rest already.
orys:
Yes, but with split rest your shift is not long for 15 hours - as you have taken 3 hours of your daily rest already.
that would depend on whether you get paid for that 3 hour rest/break or not - some companies pay from when you start a shift to when you finish it and some do not… some pay their drivers for breaks and some do not.
You would be correct if you said that that is not 15 hours of ‘work’ as work is only driving & other work added together - but then I cannot see any shift being 15 hours of work as breaks have to be taken and they do not count as ‘work’
orys:
Yes, but with split rest your shift is not long for 15 hours - as you have taken 3 hours of your daily rest already.
If the boss does not pay for rest then as the 3 hours counts for both break and rest then tell the boss it is a break but then use it for a split daily rest
carpboy:
hi lads first of all can u do 3 15 hour days back to back and second of all if you work a 13 hour 15min day is that classed as a 15.i said to my boss you can not do 3 15s back to back he yes you can.and he reckons a 13h 15m is not classed as a 15 who is right do i owe him an apoligy or throw something at him
If your boss says that a 13h 15m shift does not count as a reduced daily rest day then he is wrong.
buck73:
yes you can do 3x 15 hour days back to back,but i was always under the impression ANYTHING over a 13 hour day is classed as a 15■■.thats the way ive always done it anyway,if ive gone into say a 13 hour 15 min day its a 15 in my view.
Me too
3x15
Anything over 13hrs counts as a 15
think about it rog how many times can u reduce your rest breaks ■■?if you were to do mon, tues, wed and there 15’s and you didnt get any split rest in and you cant get split rests in he rest of he week how can you do more than a 13 thurs fri and sat.
the only way you can do 15 every day and yes you can do it is by having the split rest everyday.
Its like the 10 hr driving rule just because you do 10 hrs drivin one day, you cant do 8hrs the next and pay back the hour giving you the 10hrs again can you
As buck73 says anything over 13 I thought was counted as or part of a 15
Coffee where are you 
Nick, if you noticed, I never called it a 15 because it is not the correct way of looking at it - I did call it a reduced daily rest day.
I did explain in an earlier post in this thread that there is a difference and made an example of a 14 hour shift to show how that difference could be misinterpreted.