Who is responsible for having enough tacho rolls in a truck? Is it the companies or you the driver? I ordered a bunch from Amazon yesterday but they won’t be here till some point next week. I don’t want to look like a div for not having enough in the truck in the mean time.
The driver should have enough to provide 28 days worth of records. Some people interpret that as carrying a spare roll however there is no such requirement, only the 28 days.
It’s down to the operator to supply the driver. The ones you have brought from amazon may not be the correct type for the tachograph fitted, which is why it will be the operators responsibility to provide the correct type.
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There the ones I bought. Still, I bet I’m going to get stick for asking for some tomorrow.
Radar19:
Who is responsible for having enough tacho rolls in a truck? Is it the companies or you the driver? I ordered a bunch from Amazon yesterday but they won’t be here till some point next week. I don’t want to look like a div for not having enough in the truck in the mean time.
Keep one in your bag as a spare ,as long as you can bang one in and do a print out its no problem 
Radar19:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0051OETUM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00There the ones I bought. Still, I bet I’m going to get stick for asking for some tomorrow.
Why
seth 70:
Radar19:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0051OETUM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00There the ones I bought. Still, I bet I’m going to get stick for asking for some tomorrow.
Why
“You should of be prepared”. “You should already have enough” etc. The TM is really sarky, he pulled me up on writing a defect on my timesheet on Friday. Turns out, you need to phone up first to get a defect number… No one told me that.
It is the companies responsibility to provide you with spare tacho rolls, you shouldn’t have to pay for them.
Radar19:
“You should of be prepared”. “You should already have enough” etc. The TM is really sarky, he pulled me up on writing a defect on my timesheet on Friday. Turns out, you need to phone up first to get a defect number… No one told me that.
Hope you told him that. Not aggresively or nastily. A few TMs have been like that with me in the past. I usually find a friendly but firm and to the point “well im not a mind reader but ill know in future. So do you have any?” works. If he hasnt told you then he has no need to talk to you like you should know.
Legally it is both yours and the company’s responsibility to have enough roll to do a printout if requested,always a good idea to have a spare of your own…This can be achieved by asking for a roll every now and again when you don’t need one 
As I recall from my wonderfully informative CPC, it is the drivers responsibility to ensure there are TWO spare tacho rolls in the vehicle, but the employer must make them available when drivers request them. Failure to comply will result in a £60 fine off VOSA/DVSA.
It’s the companies responsibility to provide printing paper but it’s your responsibility to ensure you’ve got enough in the vehicle to do any legally required printouts.
In the unlikely event that you was asked for them you are legally required to have enough printing paper to do any printouts required at a road-side check, but there’s no legal requirement to carry spare rolls.
Quick Q… does that requirement extend to drivers on work which is tacho exempt and/or on domestic ?
Now this is an educated guess…you’ll be on logbooks I assume so unless you’ve driven any part of the week on eu regs then no…you’ll have your logbooks.
If you have driven any time under eu regs then yes.
The spare paper thing is normally if they just want to see what you’ve done today,had your breaks etc without delving too deep.
ShropsBri:
Now this is an educated guess…you’ll be on logbooks I assume so unless you’ve driven any part of the week on eu regs then no…you’ll have your logbooks.
If you have driven any time under eu regs then yes.The spare paper thing is normally if they just want to see what you’ve done today,had your breaks etc without delving too deep.
Yup, Milk tankers on farm collections, tacho exempt activity and the company chooses to run on domestic, so logbooks only. Only the reload tankers are on EU/cards.
Cool, kinda thought the logbook would be sufficient… but the thought crossed my mind that I could also be asked for a printout of my card.
Can’t see that they would shag as there wouldn’t be anything on it for them to see anyway. If it’s crossed your mind there’s no harm keeping one in your bag I suppose.
ShropsBri:
Legally it is both yours and the company’s responsibility to have enough roll to do a printout if requested,always a good idea to have a spare of your own…This can be achieved by asking for a roll every now and again when you don’t need one
For cleaning your marker. lights 
Radar19:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0051OETUM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00There the ones I bought. Still, I bet I’m going to get stick for asking for some tomorrow.
if you came into work and found your wagon short of fuel or needing a tyre would you also go out and purchase these too 
m1cks:
The driver should have enough to provide 28 days worth of records. Some people interpret that as carrying a spare roll however there is no such requirement, only the 28 days.
You’re getting mixed up. There is a requirement to be able to produce your last 28 days records, they’ll usually be held on the card. In the event you have a manual entry by way of a print out you have done then you should carry that and be able to produce it. Beyone that the machine needs to be capable of printing, and you will need “some” paper in order to be able to do a manual entry should the need arise. There is no requiremtn from VOSA or anyone for people to start off printing reams of paper or days.
tachograph:
It’s the companies responsibility to provide printing paper but it’s your responsibility to ensure you’ve got enough in the vehicle to do any legally required printouts.In the unlikely event that you was asked for them you are legally required to have enough printing paper to do any printouts required at a road-side check, but there’s no legal requirement to carry spare rolls.
Previously made manual entrys are the only required printouts.
Here’s a question then; on the rare occasion (for a driving God ) that I infringe I do two printouts, one that I hand in after 28 days and one that stays stapled into my diary until that day has been overwritten on the card. So my question is how does any official bod KNOW that you’ve done a printout? Is there a record made on the machine to this effect? If not, why do we bother keeping them for 28 days?