Who is at fault here?

albion1971:

Jamieg:
I can’t believe that anyone in their right mind can blame the car driver for that accident.

If that is the standard of truck driving that you feel is acceptable and if you really hand on heart think it is ok to say that it was the car drivers fault because of where he was then I can understand why the haulage industry is where it is.

If you look at the video the truck was going faster than the car. He was therefore visible to the truck before he entered his blind spot. The truck was in the outside lane because there was traffic in the inside lane.

The truck driver for whatever reason just followed his mate into L1 and quite obviously wasn’t paying full attention.

I hope he was charged with at the least careless driving and if I had been his employer he would have been sacked unless he had an exemplary record before hand

And if it had been the car driver who had driven into the truck I would have wanted him charged accordingly.

If there were less drivers on here being honest rather than making excuses for others just because they are also truck drivers I could see some sense in it.

And I know there are some truly abysmal car drivers out there. And I don’t feel any need to make excuses for them.

Man up the lot of you. There are some excellent truck drivers out on the roads, but this guy isn’t one of them

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Nice to see an unbiased opinion.

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205:
Looks like he followed his mate into lane 1 without checking mirrors

When I was in the porches position in a transit I didn’t try and stay in the lane and take the truck on, I was on the hard shoulder in a flash and on the brakes and safely pulled back on behind it.

The Porche driver could have prevented it from being worse than it turn out to be. The truck driver could have prevented it in the first place.

It’s something that I have experienced in Military Convoys and it’s hammered home time and time again. The lead driver is not responsible for your blind spot checks!

that’s your reward for letting a car out,stay in lane one and if they think about toddling under your front end at 50 mph give the horn a work out,i did once working for ups,car was just going to crawl off the slip road then arse about then gave me the flashing lights when they had to slow down to drop in.there’s nothing worse than letting some arse out then they just sit there,you think “i wish i had’nt bothered”

cars have got the ability to either speed out of the way or drop in.

stobarttrucker:
that’s your reward for letting a car out,stay in lane one and if they think about toddling under your front end at 50 mph give the horn a work out,i did once working for ups,car was just going to crawl off the slip road then arse about then gave me the flashing lights when they had to slow down to drop in.there’s nothing worse than letting some arse out then they just sit there,you think “i wish i had’nt bothered”

cars have got the ability to either speed out of the way or drop in.

Easy to say from behind your keyboard but if you’ve ever driven past J1 towards Leeds you’d know that there’s nearly always a constant stream of traffic coming up that ramp from the ring road, plus as the ramp is relatively short as well they’re always dawdling along at 40mph when the motorway traffic is doing 80 (cars) and 60 (trucks on the overrun). It’s just the done thing there to get into lane 2 beforehand, unless you’re coming off at Elland Rd. :smiley:

Rob K:

stobarttrucker:
that’s your reward for letting a car out,stay in lane one and if they think about toddling under your front end at 50 mph give the horn a work out,i did once working for ups,car was just going to crawl off the slip road then arse about then gave me the flashing lights when they had to slow down to drop in.there’s nothing worse than letting some arse out then they just sit there,you think “i wish i had’nt bothered”

cars have got the ability to either speed out of the way or drop in.

Easy to say from behind your keyboard but if you’ve ever driven past J1 towards Leeds you’d know that there’s nearly always a constant stream of traffic coming up that ramp from the ring road, plus as the ramp is relatively short as well they’re always dawdling along at 40mph when the motorway traffic is doing 80 (cars) and 60 (trucks on the overrun). It’s just the done thing there to get into lane 2 beforehand, unless you’re coming off at Elland Rd. :smiley:

then some twonk jumps straight to lane 3 across your path from the slip :smiley: used to live near that way and know what you mean going past leeds.but on a normal slip with just a car that’s when you get stiffed moving over.

to sum up

a couple of good ol boys,who think they`re the stars of a rubbish american road movie…racing about like a pair of ■■■■,and a porsche driver who has absolutley zero nous when it comes to operating a motor vehicle.

commonrail:
to sum up

a couple of good ol boys,who think they`re the stars of a rubbish american road movie…racing about like a pair of ■■■■,and a porsche driver who has absolutley zero nous when it comes to operating a motor vehicle.

Well put CR. Its absolutely the truck drivers fault. He moved left into a lane which wasn’t empty. Intent on following his mate & quite probably yakking on the CB. Driving without due care if ever there was.

Porsche driver could easily have taken steps to avoid it, a good horn blast may have been enough, if not just move left onto the (clear) HS instead of trying to push a 44 tonne truck back inline with a 1.3 tonne car. What was he thinking?

Car driver coming the opposite way in lane 2 at 9.00 proves without doubt that most don’t look further ahead than the end of the bonnet.

Here’s another one that wouldn’t have just sat there waiting to get clobbered. Mind you, if they were both texting then it’s no ones fault is it. :wink:

You should be looking in the kerbside mirror as you merge left, I know they’re pretty rubbish and that but it’s something I always do if I’m not 100% there isn’t something there along with gradually moving over and indicating.

It is the truck drivers fault, stone cold but I wouldn’t hang him for it as we’re all human and the blind spot is an easily made mistake. If the car driver was a “driver” he/she wouldn’t of been in that position in the first place but you can’t expect that level of experience in everyone.

Just to add they’re both lucky they didn’t end up over the guard rail & onto the carriageway underneath. A cracking example video for car drivers to watch to educate in avoiding being in a truck’s blind spot.

205:
Looks like he followed his mate into lane 1 without checking mirrors

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